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My wife and I sail the hell out of a Hunter 14.5 footer on the Gulf of Mexico.
We've made some minor modifications, of course.

It goes really fast in good wind, and we can sail it right on the edge of the
no sail zone (45 degrees off the wind). The boat is named, naturally,
"Veridican."

What about you--what do you sail?

The Veridican

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I sail a Hunter 12 footer at Chatfield.

RB

"Veridican" wrote in message
...
My wife and I sail the hell out of a Hunter 14.5 footer on the Gulf of
Mexico.
We've made some minor modifications, of course.

It goes really fast in good wind, and we can sail it right on the edge of
the
no sail zone (45 degrees off the wind). The boat is named, naturally,
"Veridican."

What about you--what do you sail?

The Veridican

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I'm not familiar with the 14.5. Does it have a keel?

I've been sailing my Cal 20 a fair amount. Just got
a new main and jib. Makes a huge difference from
the rags I had before. I'm also teaching on a Yamaha
30 (both in the bay) and a Holder 20 (swing keel) on
a lake... not much wind, but it makes for a good
comparison to the SF bay.

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"Veridican" wrote in message
...
My wife and I sail the hell out of a Hunter 14.5 footer on the Gulf of
Mexico.
We've made some minor modifications, of course.

It goes really fast in good wind, and we can sail it right on the edge of
the
no sail zone (45 degrees off the wind). The boat is named, naturally,
"Veridican."

What about you--what do you sail?

The Veridican

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OzOne wrote:

On 14 Apr 2004 02:15:29 GMT, (Veridican) scribbled
thusly:

My wife and I sail the hell out of a Hunter 14.5 footer on the Gulf of Mexico.
We've made some minor modifications, of course.

It goes really fast in good wind, and we can sail it right on the edge of the
no sail zone (45 degrees off the wind). The boat is named, naturally,
"Veridican."

What about you--what do you sail?

The Veridican

Oh you're good..very good.

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

And you're cruel...very cruel...

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I had a Lido 14 for several years, and really enjoyed it. It could get
up on a plane in the right conditions, which was pretty exciting.

Jim

Veridican wrote:

My wife and I sail the hell out of a Hunter 14.5 footer on the Gulf of Mexico.
We've made some minor modifications, of course.

It goes really fast in good wind, and we can sail it right on the edge of the
no sail zone (45 degrees off the wind). The boat is named, naturally,
"Veridican."

What about you--what do you sail?

The Veridican

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Ed,
Did you mean to say a Hunter 146? I'm not
familiar with the 14.5.
s

"Veridican" wrote in message
...
: My wife and I sail the hell out of a Hunter 14.5
footer on the Gulf of Mexico.
: We've made some minor modifications, of course.
:
: It goes really fast in good wind, and we can
sail it right on the edge of the
: no sail zone (45 degrees off the wind). The boat
is named, naturally,
: "Veridican."
:
: What about you--what do you sail?
:
: The Veridican

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I'm not familiar with the 14.5. Does it have a keel?


No keel, just a swingboard. The Hunter 146, as it is called, is brand new. I
think they've only been out for a year.

So, you sail on the SF Bay? I sail in the Gulf off the panhandle of FL. We've
never got our boat to plane, but then there are two of us in the boat and
whoever's in the crew position is weighing down the front end. How do you get a
dinghy to plane?

The Veridican

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Get a JY 15.
S

"Veridican" wrote in message
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: I'm not familiar with the 14.5. Does it have a
keel?
:
:
: No keel, just a swingboard. The Hunter 146, as
it is called, is brand new. I
: think they've only been out for a year.
:
: So, you sail on the SF Bay? I sail in the Gulf
off the panhandle of FL. We've
: never got our boat to plane, but then there are
two of us in the boat and
: whoever's in the crew position is weighing down
the front end. How do you get a
: dinghy to plane?
:
: The Veridican
:
:
:

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Ed,
Did you mean to say a Hunter 146? I'm not familiar with the 14.5

Yeah, the 146. It's 14.5 feet long. I don't know if it's a fast boat or not,
especially compared to say racing boats of that size, but it sure seems to haul
compared to the Apollo 16 footer we once had.

The Veridican

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Get a JY 15.

We thought about that, but we didn't like the looks of the JY15. It had that
racing boat look, which of course I suppose it should have being it's a racing
boat. The 146 is like a big bath tub. The interior is all molded with no shapr
edges. It seems very solid and safe, and I suppose it is. But it moves well,
even with the slightest wind. We capsized it once in heavy wind, and it was
very easy to flip back over.

The Veridican

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"seems" is the key word there. The apollo is
faster.
S


"Veridican" wrote in message
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: Ed,
: Did you mean to say a Hunter 146? I'm not
familiar with the 14.5
:
: Yeah, the 146. It's 14.5 feet long. I don't know
if it's a fast boat or not,
: especially compared to say racing boats of that
size, but it sure seems to haul
: compared to the Apollo 16 footer we once had.
:
: The Veridican
:
:

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"seems" is the key word there. The apollo is
faster.

How would you know? I know you haven't sailed the 146, because it's a rare boat
being it's so new. And I know you haven't sailed an Apollo 16 ft, because it's
a rare boat being so old. So I know you don't know what you're talking about
(But when has that ever stopped someone from spewing hot air?).

The Veridican

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Excuse me?
I have sailed an AMF Apollo. If you thought it
was slow, you probably didn't have it tuned
properly.
I have sailed a Hunter 146. We have been dealing
with JY/Hunter for over a decade and have some
experience almost every boat they produce
(dinghies). Give a call to Cutter Smith at HCT
and ask him how many of his boats we own.
You *seem* to *know* an awful lot about me, but
unfortunately your information *seems* wrong.
S
PS. Would you like to buy some JY14/Hunter 140's?
We have a fleet we're selling off.


"Veridican" wrote in message
...
:
: "seems" is the key word there. The apollo is
: faster.
:
: How would you know? I know you haven't sailed
the 146, because it's a rare boat
: being it's so new. And I know you haven't sailed
an Apollo 16 ft, because it's
: a rare boat being so old. So I know you don't
know what you're talking about
: (But when has that ever stopped someone from
spewing hot air?).
:
: The Veridican

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I have a Butterfly as well as Chanteuse...but I just plitz around on it for
play....

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Ed said: The 146 is like a big bath tub.

Could be why it won't plane....

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Actually, now that I think of it: The AMF Apollo was narrower and longer than
the 146, so the difference in speed is probably the result of our increased
sailing abilities. A more narrow and longer boat would naturally be faster,
given the same sail area.

(w-w-w-wait a minute. h-h-h-h-he didn't acknowledge my decade of experience.
H-h-h-e thinks it's all his idea! Acknowledge me! I insist that you acknowledge
me and my experience. I-i-i insist!)

The Veridican

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Katy,
You still have your Butterfly? Do you get to sail
it much. Stop by on your way to FL and we can
race them.
S

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: I have a Butterfly as well as Chanteuse...but I
just plitz around on it for
: play....
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Pony asked: Katy,
You still have your Butterfly? Do you get to sail
it much. Stop by on your way to FL and we can
race them.
S

Kind of hard to carryon a Butterfly on a plane! I'll be selling it before
we move, since I really don't want to be shark bait...will probably get
something like a JY15 to gunkhole with when we move there...I flip way too
much to be comfortable sailing around carnivorous fish in a scow!

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Katy,
You still have your Butterfly?

Yeah, she said she plays on it.

The Veridican

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JY15 to gunkhole with when we move there...I flip way too
much to be comfortable sailing around carnivorous fish in a scow!

Oh yeah, bull sharks eat people here at least one every 15 minutes. Definitely
can't use a 12 foot boat. You have to have a 15 foot racing boat to be safe
from the sharks.

(Sumpin tells me dis ol lady don't get out on da water much.)

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Triton wrote:

On 14 Apr 2004 11:05:23 GMT, (Veridican) scribbled
thusly:

I'm not familiar with the 14.5. Does it have a keel?


No keel, just a swingboard. The Hunter 146, as it is called, is brand new. I
think they've only been out for a year.

So, you sail on the SF Bay? I sail in the Gulf off the panhandle of FL. We've
never got our boat to plane, but then there are two of us in the boat and
whoever's in the crew position is weighing down the front end. How do you get a
dinghy to plane?

The Veridican


Bwaaahahhahahahahahaa!
It's getting better Taddy!

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I'm gobsmacked. How can one possibly top something like this?
SHould we suggest he bring the plane to the dinghy?

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Flying Tadpole wrote:


Triton wrote:



I'm gobsmacked. How can one possibly top something like this?
SHould we suggest he bring the plane to the dinghy?


Block, jack or rabbit?

Cheers
marty

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Don't know... don't sail dinghies... the cal I sail has a bulb-like
keel, fairly advanced for it's time (1965), finally supplanted by the
Santana 22. The keel weighs about 950 lbs. Total boat weight
is about 2000.

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"Veridican" wrote in message
...
I'm not familiar with the 14.5. Does it have a keel?


No keel, just a swingboard. The Hunter 146, as it is called, is brand new.
I
think they've only been out for a year.

So, you sail on the SF Bay? I sail in the Gulf off the panhandle of FL.
We've
never got our boat to plane, but then there are two of us in the boat and
whoever's in the crew position is weighing down the front end. How do you
get a
dinghy to plane?

The Veridican

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Was it a Mac, MacBoy?

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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I had a Lido 14 for several years, and really enjoyed it. It could get
up on a plane in the right conditions, which was pretty exciting.

Jim

Veridican wrote:

My wife and I sail the hell out of a Hunter 14.5 footer on the Gulf of
Mexico.
We've made some minor modifications, of course.

It goes really fast in good wind, and we can sail it right on the edge
of the
no sail zone (45 degrees off the wind). The boat is named, naturally,
"Veridican."

What about you--what do you sail?

The Veridican

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Veridican wrote:

My wife and I sail the hell out of a Hunter 14.5 footer on the Gulf of Mexico.
We've made some minor modifications, of course.

It goes really fast in good wind, and we can sail it right on the edge of the
no sail zone (45 degrees off the wind).

This is called "pointing". Anybody who races does it.

Congratulations! Welcome to the sport of sailing.

What about you--what do you sail?

On a regular basis: JY15, Laser, Albacore, 470, CL-16, Hobie14, plus a
smattering of windsurfers.

Occasionally I'll hitch a ride on a keelboat when I feel like sailing
with a ton of lead underneath me.

Too bad there's not a separate dinghy newsgroup.

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Ed said: (Sumpin tells me dis ol lady don't get out on da water much.)

Wrong. There is a difference sailing a scow than sailing a JY 15....I
prefer to have my butt up out tof the water, thank you, and also to have a
more reliable boat that doesn't flip...and Florida does not publish the
actual amount of shark attacks due to scaring off the tourists....I have
stepped on a shark...I didn't know I could run that fast...

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Florida does not publish the
actual amount of shark attacks due to scaring off the tourists....I have
stepped on a shark...I didn't know I could run that fast...

First off, Florida doesn't have to--the news does it for them. Secondly,
unprovoked shark attacks are very rare throughout the entire US, so they're
even more rare in FL.

Finally, all I'm saying is that you have a whole lot better chance of drowning
than being bit by a shark.

The Veridican
The Veridican
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Actually a significant number of the world wide reported shark attacks are in
Florida. Almost all of the US attacks are in FL.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0128075321.htm

Its still more common to drown, or die from a bee sting.



"Veridican" wrote in message
...
Florida does not publish the
actual amount of shark attacks due to scaring off the tourists....I have
stepped on a shark...I didn't know I could run that fast...

First off, Florida doesn't have to--the news does it for them. Secondly,
unprovoked shark attacks are very rare throughout the entire US, so they're
even more rare in FL.

Finally, all I'm saying is that you have a whole lot better chance of drowning
than being bit by a shark.

The Veridican
The Veridican
"Believe that truth is in the world when those who can see it follow it."

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Actually a significant number of the world wide reported shark attacks are in
Florida. Almost all of the US attacks are in FL.

That's right: FL, CA, and the Carolinas. It's kind of hard to have a shark
attack in CO or AZ.

Whatever, stay on the lakes and scream at the sight of dolphins--what do I
care.


The Veridican

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Martin Baxter wrote:

Flying Tadpole wrote:


Triton wrote:



I'm gobsmacked. How can one possibly top something like this?
SHould we suggest he bring the plane to the dinghy?


Block, jack or rabbit?

Electric, of course.

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My wife and I like to sail Vanguard V-15's in Santa Monica Bay. We rent
them and try to go out once every week or two. It's a great feeling to be
so close and connected with the sea and wind, I just don't get that same
feeling on a keel boat.

"Veridican" wrote in message
...
My wife and I sail the hell out of a Hunter 14.5 footer on the Gulf of
Mexico.
We've made some minor modifications, of course.

It goes really fast in good wind, and we can sail it right on the edge of
the
no sail zone (45 degrees off the wind). The boat is named, naturally,
"Veridican."

What about you--what do you sail?

The Veridican

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http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Sharks...acksummary.htm

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Walt lamented: Too bad there's not a separate dinghy newsgroup.

SailNet has several....

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Brien Alkire wrote:

My wife and I like to sail Vanguard V-15's in Santa Monica Bay. We rent
them and try to go out once every week or two. It's a great feeling to be
so close and connected with the sea and wind, I just don't get that same
feeling on a keel boat.

Agreed. Even the high performance keel boats cannot possibly duplicate
the responsiveness of small fast racing dinghy. That's probably why all
the world's best racing skippers earned their stripes in one or another
of the fast centerboard classes before moving into the high-dollar
sailing world.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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"seems" is the key word there. The apollo is
faster.

Veridican wrote:
How would you know? I know you haven't sailed the 146, because it's a rare boat
being it's so new. And I know you haven't sailed an Apollo 16 ft, because it's
a rare boat being so old.

Uh huh. Better get the facts. I'd put money on Pony having sailed both
boats. I have and he gets around more than I do.


... So I know you don't know what you're talking about
(But when has that ever stopped someone from spewing hot air?).

When has a sense of false bravado prevented anyone from listening to the
truth?

DSK

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Those JY15's are a little tight for me. I like
them. We have 6 in the club. I don't think too
much of the plastic they build them out of.

"Pony Express" wrote

Get a JY 15.
S

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At least your family can bury all of you if you die
from a bee sting. Being eaten alive is a horror.

"Jeff Morris" wrote

Actually a significant number of the world wide reported shark attacks are in
Florida. Almost all of the US attacks are in FL.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0128075321.htm

Its still more common to drown, or die from a bee sting.

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Bart stated: At least your family can bury all of you if you die
from a bee sting. Being eaten alive is a horror.

Dying of anaphylaxis is pretty horrendous. Been there twice, fortunately
didn't complete the trip. Being eaten alive would be much worse....you
would hopefully bleed out quickly and lapse into unconsciousness before it
got too bad...


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Just how big are you? We have had some pretty big
people in them, both for racing and learn to sail.
What don't you like about the acp? It's perfect
for club boats. No spider webbing or cracking
when boats bump and it stands up to hauling over a
beach far better than glass.
The thing I don't understand is why our
highschoolers don't like the JY's. They want
420's or FJ's because they're 'faster'. Truth is
that the JY is faster than either of them.
S

"N1EE" wrote in message
om...
: Those JY15's are a little tight for me. I like
: them. We have 6 in the club. I don't think too
: much of the plastic they build them out of.
:
: "Pony Express"
wrote
:
: Get a JY 15.
: S