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Paul Schilter March 24th 04 10:02 PM

Dutch tall ship causes acute embarrassment
 
Donal,
LOL Yes there is that.
Paul

"Donal" wrote in message
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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Did you even read the article that you posted?

''The painted figure on the bow of the ship, a woman with long red hair

in
a
green dress with one breast bared, caused a stir when the ship docked in
Jacksonville, Fla., where the ship's publicity staff had to divert a

group
of schoolchildren so they would not pass by it. ''

''Otherwise, the visits to American ports have gone smoothly.''



Europeans are surprised by the American reaction to a wooden tit. You
either react with horror, or you vote it into the office of President!


Regards

Donal
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Jonathan Ganz March 25th 04 01:21 AM

Dutch tall ship causes acute embarrassment
 
Like when Ashcrap covered up the statue's breast? I guess so
he wouldn't have to stand next to another boob.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:01:02 -0500, "Paul Schilter"
paulschilter@comcast,dot,net said:

I thought his point was that we have some hang-ups in this country.


I thought the point was a bit more subtle--that among some there's a
tendency to apply perfectly good principles without any thought, leading

to
absurd results. The fact that you don't want a couple to engage in public
copulation in St. Patrick's Cathedral (as happened a year or so ago)

doesn't
mean you have to cover up the naked breast on a ship's figurehead.

Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27




Jonathan Ganz March 25th 04 02:09 AM

Dutch tall ship causes acute embarrassment
 
Read all about it:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0129-04.htm

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:21:43 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

Like when Ashcrap covered up the statue's breast?


I don't know the story, but it sounds like it might be a good example of

the
principle.

Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27




Peter Wiley March 25th 04 03:12 AM

Dutch tall ship causes acute embarrassment
 
In article , Jonathan Ganz
wrote:

Like when Ashcrap covered up the statue's breast? I guess so
he wouldn't have to stand next to another boob.


Couldn't he hack the competition?

PDW

Backyard Renegade March 25th 04 03:47 AM

Dutch tall ship causes acute embarrassment
 
"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Did you even read the article that you posted?

''The painted figure on the bow of the ship, a woman with long red hair in

a
green dress with one breast bared, caused a stir when the ship docked in
Jacksonville, Fla., where the ship's publicity staff had to divert a group
of schoolchildren so they would not pass by it. ''

''Otherwise, the visits to American ports have gone smoothly.''



Europeans are surprised by the American reaction to a wooden tit. You
either react with horror, or you vote it into the office of President!


Regards

Donal


As our sons and daughters fight around the world to save your coward
asses, you all sit around worrying about who gets to see a wooden tit!
Precious idiots...
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Backyard Renegade March 25th 04 03:53 AM

Dutch tall ship causes acute embarrassment
 
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...
The acute embarrassment the children felt was due to the stupidity of the
guides, not the figurehead.


Gotta love tolerance and respect for those with different views...
Typical of the arrogance of the intolerant.





"Chris Brady" wrote in message
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Dutch tall ship causes acute embarrassment to school-children.

During a visit to South Street Seaport Museum in New York, the
Dutch-built tall ship "Stad Amsterdam" caused much embarrassment to
the young folk of the city with its figurehead. In an episode very
reminiscent of "boobgate" (
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ent&q=Boobgate ) school
children had to be diverted away from the front end of the ship lest
they should catch sight of it's traditional figurehead - a young woman
with flowing hair and BARE breasts.

As reported: "The painted figure on the bow of the ship, a woman with
long red hair in a green dress with one breast bared, caused a stir
when the ship docked in, where the ship's publicity staff had to
divert a group of schoolchildren so they would not pass by it."

This is what the fuss was all about:

http://www.stadamsterdam.com/en/partners/partners.asp

Such figureheads are of course entirely traditional for tall ships -
amounting to a harmless pagan offering to ensure calm seas and
following winds, and indeed have always been so for hundreds of years.
And in the Netherlands a naked female figurehead would have caused no
concern whatsoever.

Unfortunately in a country where the moral right reigns supreme such a
sight was certainly not acceptable and as widely reported the school
children had to be directed away from such a scandalous sight.

But this does beggar the imagination as to what the sailors of old,
who used to dock their ships at US ports and ports around the world,
would have made of all this. Their prime concern after a voyage would
have been to visit the local brothels where they would have seen much
more than the bare breasts of the local women!!

More at: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/22/nyregion/22ship.html

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http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me... =figureheads


http://www.nauticalsupplyshop.com/Me...de=figureheads


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http://www.figureheads.co.uk/

CJB


Jonathan Ganz March 25th 04 07:19 AM

Dutch tall ship causes acute embarrassment
 
Yeah, but I'd rather err on the side of the reporters. I mean they
have to have a serious story at some point. And, breasts are
serious business.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:09:38 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

Read all about it:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0129-04.htm


Infantile behavior on the part of both the photographers and Ashcroft.

Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27




Jonathan Ganz March 25th 04 07:19 AM

Dutch tall ship causes acute embarrassment
 
HA! Good one.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
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In article , Jonathan Ganz
wrote:

Like when Ashcrap covered up the statue's breast? I guess so
he wouldn't have to stand next to another boob.


Couldn't he hack the competition?

PDW




Frank Maier March 25th 04 07:40 AM

Dutch tall ship causes acute embarrassment
 
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote:
Was Ashcroft one of the students?


"Ashcroft" and "students" in the same sentence reminds me of a joke:

Attorney General Ashcroft is visiting an elementary school. After a
brief
speech, he announces, "All right, boys and girls, now you can ask me
questions."

A young boy named Bobby raises his hand and says, "I have three
questions:

1. How did Bush win the election with fewer votes than Gore?
2. Why are you using the USA Patriot Act to limit Americans' civil
liberties
and violate the Constitution?
3. Why hasn't the U.S. caught Osama Bin Laden yet?"

Just then the recess bell sounds and all the kids run out to the
playground.
After recess, the kids come back to class and Ashcroft says, "I'm
sorry we were interrupted. Now you can continue with your questions."

A young girl raises her hand and says, "I have two questions:

1. How come the recess bell went off 20 minutes early?
2. Where's Bobby?"

Jeff Morris March 25th 04 11:32 AM

Dutch tall ship causes acute embarrassment
 
"Backyard Renegade" wrote in message
om...
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message

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The acute embarrassment the children felt was due to the stupidity of the
guides, not the figurehead.


Gotta love tolerance and respect for those with different views...
Typical of the arrogance of the intolerant.

You may be right. After all, breasts were not intended for children.




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