Jim admitted buying his boat " only after weeks of "Mac bashings" My, what
great criteria for buying a boat.
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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Nah, his ego is way too big for that. He bought a loser, now
he has to justify it.

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
or a smaller boat.

DSK wrote:
Jim Cate wrote:

In our area, some of the many "obvious advantages" include the ability
to get out to good sailing waters, sail for half a day, and return to
port within a few hours.


Umm, no. The "obvious advantage" here is that you can get shaken and
deafened while putt-putting out into more open water, then bobbing
around with (or without, doesn't make much difference) sail up, then
reversing the process.

So, it would be better for me to get a larger, keel boat that takes 5
hours to "ROAR" out to the good sailing water, and then another 5 hours
to "ROAR" back to home port? Under that scenario, When do we start
having fun? How long to I have to listen to that diesel?

Jim



A few days ago I went sailing around our marina. Slaloming among the
outer pilings is fun.

"Good sailing waters" is where good sailors sail.


... If you can only sail on weekends, that's an "obvious advantage"
over a boat that takes six hours to motor to a good sailing area, and
six hours to motor back.


You've been sold a bill of goods. You either should 1- keep the boat
closer to where you want to sail or 2- get a boat that can be enjoyably
sailed in waters a practical distance away. There are many solutions to
every problem, and the one you've fixed on is a rather poor one IMHO.

Meanwhile, you get to ride around on your new boat (did you get red or
blue?) while subsidizing your local Macgregor dealers lifestyle. Enjoy.


Actually, I'm one of the fortunate few who will be able to get delivery
of this spectacular new boat this year. Most of their production for the
year has already been commited. (I'm getting the white model.)

FBhis
Doug King

Yes, Mac "enthusiasts" are easy targets, like shooting fish in
a barrel, because anyone dumb enough to buy one isn't much
of a sailor. I for one have no problem with you sticking around.
Sometimes even shooting fish in a barrel is good, clean fun. Also,
you might learn something and then decide to sell that piece of
crap and get a real boat.

Many of us have been here for years. So far, you haven't proven
yourself to be anything more than a dummy, and a temporary one
at that. If you post about the high quality of Macs, you're inviting
all sorts of slamming. I suggest you keep quite for the most part,
and occasionally try to ask an intelligent question. But, feel free
to do as you please.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


katysails wrote:

Jax cried:
SPAM!!

I'm of the opinion that the guy is a MacGregor infiltrate, sent by the
company to turn the attention of the group on their sorry product...

I am beginning to understand that this group considers Mac enthusiasts
something like "easy targets" and great sport for Mac attacks.
Apparently, slamming Mac owners or enthusiasts is considered something
like shooting fish in a barrel. - We are supposed to become intimidated
and quickly run off.

Well, this one isn't cooperating, and won't, and apparently, that's not
going down very well. Helpful hint. - If it takes two months, three
months, six months, 12 months, or whatever, , I'm not going to turn tail
and run. Get used to it.

Jim

Varying conditions?? In Galveston? Like more mosquitoes than
usual?

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Donal wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...

There is a large bay near here in which we can sail for
the afternoon. As mentioned below, I recently placed an order for one
of the Mac 26M's. When it's delivered, I'll be able to motor down to
Galveston and to the offshore blue water in about two hours.


This reminds me of my plans to travel to France in 3 & 1/2 hours in my
Bayliner. Very soon after I took delivery of the boat, I realised that
I
would never take her to France. However, I still had 10 *very* good
years
of sailing (ok - motoring) in her.



Or, I can
tow the boat down to various points on the coast and launch it there. -


Sounds like hard work....... OK if you are under 25 years old.



I'll try several sailing areas and see how they compare and report back
to the group.


I look forward to your reports.

When are you due to take delivery?

By May 10-15 I should be able to take her out under varying conditions,
and I'll post sone further reports.

Jim



Regards


Donal
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Well fool, since it was pretty clear that no one has the information
you're looking for then I don't really understand why you keep
posting about your bad purchase. Perhaps you can explain it?
It seems to me you just type the same crap over and over,
expecting to get a cordial response? Either you're stupid or
a troll. You pick.

I'd be happy to bet you, but I've already won. You're whining
already!

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Jonathan Ganz wrote:

So you were just trolling.

Nope. If someone had posted some substantive information about the
current model (the 26M), I would have considered it carefully. But all
I got was a crock of **** from members who didn't know anything about
the current model, but who, despite having never sailed the boat or even
spoken with someone who did, didn't hesitate to bash the boat and me.
Apparently, Mac owners are considered an easy target on this ng, and
bashing Mac owners is considered an a great spectator sport. - Of
course, what that tells me is that some of the contributors on this
particular string have a problem. The problem isn't the boat, it's the
asa contributors who don't know what the hell they are talking about.


You will be back whining.

How much are you willing to put down on that particular prediction?
$500? $200? $25? $5????.



Sailing experiences and a Mac are not compatible.

Paying marina fees, insurance, repairs, bottom treatments, etc., to keep
a large keel boat in a marina 99% of the time isn't very compatible with
sailing either.

Jim

Bull. You bought it weeks ago and are now trying to justify the purchase.
Don't start lying already. It's not worth it.

If we have nothing of substance to say, then why are you still listening.

I think you're going to stay around just long enough to pop a cork...
look out folks, he's almost there!

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Well, Jhim, the facts are that you already bought your boat, and
were looking here for some sort of validation.

Nope. I hadn't bought the boat until last week, and I was hoping to get
some information from someone who had sailed the 26M, or who has spoken
with someone who had sailed the 26M, or who knew someting about it.

You didn't get it,
decided no one responded properly, then decided to get on your
high horse about lack of response.

Wrong again! I read all the asinine, opinionated comments from
contributors such as yourself and discovered that the Mac-bashers had
very little of substance to to say. Lots of crap, lots of biased
opinionating, but very little actual information.


Sounds to me like you're the
one who needs to press the down arrow. I mean the lever on the
toilet. You're clearly dumb and an asshole, but not a winner there
either.

Since you don't like what I have to say, feel free to filter me out.
I've been here a long time. I'll be here long after you're sick of
your crackerjack box boat and have to sell it at a huge loss.

It's your choice as to whether you want to continue reading or
responding to my notes. But don't hold your breath expecting me to fold,
or run away.

Jim

So you're not straight? Oh no!!

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


JAXAshby wrote:

jim, how many boats do you expect to sell from this little piece of
advertising
fluff you did here?


In the interest of full disclosure,


What full disclosure? That you sell these things? That this whole
thread was
a piece of advertising fluff?


If I had continued this discussion without disclosing that I recently
placed an order for the Mac, I would be accused of not being straignt
with the group concerning my intentions and interests. That's so obvious
it's not even worth further discussion.

Jim

If *what* takes 2,3,6 months?

SCOTTY

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Jim "threatened": Helpful hint. - If it takes two months, three
months, six months, 12 months, or whatever, , I'm not going to turn tail
and run.

Snort...better men than you have made that claim....

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s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Can't you sail out to your ''blue water''?

SV

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


DSK wrote:
Jim Cate wrote:

In our area, some of the many "obvious advantages" include the ability
to get out to good sailing waters, sail for half a day, and return to
port within a few hours.


Umm, no. The "obvious advantage" here is that you can get shaken and
deafened while putt-putting out into more open water, then bobbing
around with (or without, doesn't make much difference) sail up, then
reversing the process.

So, it would be better for me to get a larger, keel boat that takes 5
hours to "ROAR" out to the good sailing water, and then another 5 hours
to "ROAR" back to home port? Under that scenario, When do we start
having fun? How long to I have to listen to that diesel?

Jim



A few days ago I went sailing around our marina. Slaloming among the
outer pilings is fun.

"Good sailing waters" is where good sailors sail.


... If you can only sail on weekends, that's an "obvious advantage"
over a boat that takes six hours to motor to a good sailing area, and
six hours to motor back.


You've been sold a bill of goods. You either should 1- keep the boat
closer to where you want to sail or 2- get a boat that can be enjoyably
sailed in waters a practical distance away. There are many solutions to
every problem, and the one you've fixed on is a rather poor one IMHO.

Meanwhile, you get to ride around on your new boat (did you get red or
blue?) while subsidizing your local Macgregor dealers lifestyle. Enjoy.


Actually, I'm one of the fortunate few who will be able to get delivery
of this spectacular new boat this year. Most of their production for the
year has already been commited. (I'm getting the white model.)

FBhis
Doug King

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...

despite having never sailed the boat or even
spoken with someone who did, didn't hesitate to bash the boat and me.
Apparently, Mac owners are considered an easy target on this ng, and
bashing Mac owners is considered an a great spectator sport. -

and you never got the hint, did ya now?

SV