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Bobsprit February 15th 04 11:59 PM

Ocean Sailing Question
 
My Mommy is dead.

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message .net...
I call my Mommy

You are the sole watch keeper, at night,
sailing along close hauled in 25 knots
of wind. The helm is lashed. Suddenly
a squall line comes through and you are
taken aback, and find yourself hove-to
under full sail.

What do you do to get underway again?

Bart Senior


Jonathan Ganz February 16th 04 01:23 AM

Ocean Sailing Question
 
Why? Steady 25kts. I've locked the wheel before in the bay.

"Donal" wrote in message
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"N1EE" wrote in message
om...
You are the sole watch keeper, at night,
sailing along close hauled in 25 knots
of wind.



I've got some difficulty trying to imagine sailing in 25 kts (30 app.)

with
the helm lashed.


The helm is lashed. Suddenly
a squall line comes through and you are
taken aback, and find yourself hove-to
under full sail.

What do you do to get underway again?


I'd put a couple of turns of the lazy sheet around the winch - and let the
sheet go!

What would you do, Bart?


.... And why the hell were you sailing in 30 kts app, with the helm
lashed???


Regards


Donal
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DSK February 16th 04 02:51 AM

Ocean Sailing Question
 
N1EE wrote:
You are the sole watch keeper, at night,
sailing along close hauled in 25 knots
of wind. The helm is lashed. Suddenly
a squall line comes through and you are
taken aback, and find yourself hove-to
under full sail.


And this shift didn't wake up anybody else on board?


What do you do to get underway again?


I'd probably unlash the helm and gybe around, depending on the boat &
the sea state.


Brien Alkire wrote:
If you're hove-to then somehow the helm was thrown over (unless you mean
you're in irons?). The boat should be oscillating between close hauled with
a backed jib and head to wind.


Depends... in general I'd agree that it's unlikely a boat will heave-to
steadily with the helm lashed (or locked) at a setting for close-hauled
on the opposite tack.

.... Let it fall off onto the new tack, bring the
jib over, get some speed and tack again. If you absolutely don't have
anyone around to help with moving the headsail then you can drop or luff it
once you're settled on the new back and sail by main alone.



Not a bad idea as long as it's a rig where the headsail will blow
cleanly through the foretriangle and not catch on anything. It's still
likely to be slower than gybing around IMHO.

Another good answer is to drop the jib and gain way on the new tack,
then tack and re hoist. This would be one time when a roller furler
would be nice!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Michael February 16th 04 03:44 AM

Ocean Sailing Question
 
Retrain the watchstander in the use of reefing gear, keeping a good lookout,
and doing things when they need doing them and not when it's already too
late.

Otherwise the same thing will happen again.

Assuming the watch stander had proper training to begin with.

M.

OzOne wrote in message ...
On 15 Feb 2004 07:55:22 -0800, (N1EE)
scribbled thusly:

You are the sole watch keeper, at night,
sailing along close hauled in 25 knots
of wind. The helm is lashed. Suddenly
a squall line comes through and you are
taken aback, and find yourself hove-to
under full sail.

What do you do to get underway again?

Bart Senior


Sole watch at night in 25kts in conditions that may bring a line
squall and with the helm lashed????!!!

Maybe you could try base jumping for a safer sport!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Joe February 16th 04 03:06 PM

Ocean Sailing Question
 
(N1EE) wrote in message . com...
You are the sole watch keeper, at night,
sailing along close hauled in 25 knots
of wind. The helm is lashed. Suddenly
a squall line comes through and you are
taken aback, and find yourself hove-to
under full sail.

What do you do to get underway again?

Bart Senior


Start the engine and power back on course.
Unlash the wheel and turn on the autopilot.
Kick my self in the ass for letting it happen in the first place.

Joe
MSV RedCloud

DD730 February 16th 04 03:21 PM

Ocean Sailing Question
 
Boxhaul the bitch.

N1EE wrote:
You are the sole watch keeper, at night,
sailing along close hauled in 25 knots
of wind. The helm is lashed. Suddenly
a squall line comes through and you are
taken aback, and find yourself hove-to
under full sail.

What do you do to get underway again?

Bart Senior




DSK February 16th 04 03:52 PM

Ocean Sailing Question
 
Michael wrote:
Retrain the watchstander in the use of reefing gear, keeping a good lookout,
and doing things when they need doing them and not when it's already too
late.

Otherwise the same thing will happen again.

Assuming the watch stander had proper training to begin with.


In other words, you don't know the answer? Sorry we've already got
Navvie playing this kind of game.


What is there in this question that has *anything* to do with reefing,
or keeping a good lookout?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Peter S/Y Anicula February 16th 04 04:41 PM

Ocean Sailing Question
 
I have experienced this a couple of times, except with the windvane
steering instead of the lashed helm. In 25 knots I would probably just
be lazy and gybe, set the vane again, and go back to reading or
whatever I might be doing.
Since you were closehauled the main is sheeted fairly tight, you
should be able to gybe safely without working the sheet.

If the wind were stronger I would set the foresail in the other side
and then tack back.

You didn't say whether the wind shifted or not. If the wind shifted I
might take advantage of the shift and stay on the new tack.

I suppose it would also matter what kind of boat it happened in.

Peter S/Y Anicula

"DSK" skrev i en meddelelse
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N1EE wrote:
You are the sole watch keeper, at night,
sailing along close hauled in 25 knots
of wind. The helm is lashed. Suddenly
a squall line comes through and you are
taken aback, and find yourself hove-to
under full sail.


And this shift didn't wake up anybody else on board?


What do you do to get underway again?


I'd probably unlash the helm and gybe around, depending on the boat

&
the sea state.


Brien Alkire wrote:
If you're hove-to then somehow the helm was thrown over (unless

you mean
you're in irons?). The boat should be oscillating between close

hauled with
a backed jib and head to wind.


Depends... in general I'd agree that it's unlikely a boat will

heave-to
steadily with the helm lashed (or locked) at a setting for

close-hauled
on the opposite tack.

.... Let it fall off onto the new tack, bring the
jib over, get some speed and tack again. If you absolutely don't

have
anyone around to help with moving the headsail then you can drop

or luff it
once you're settled on the new back and sail by main alone.



Not a bad idea as long as it's a rig where the headsail will blow
cleanly through the foretriangle and not catch on anything. It's

still
likely to be slower than gybing around IMHO.

Another good answer is to drop the jib and gain way on the new tack,
then tack and re hoist. This would be one time when a roller furler
would be nice!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




Jonathan Ganz February 16th 04 06:25 PM

Ocean Sailing Question
 
Engine?? What engine? This is a sailing newsgroup.

"Joe" wrote in message
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(N1EE) wrote in message

. com...
You are the sole watch keeper, at night,
sailing along close hauled in 25 knots
of wind. The helm is lashed. Suddenly
a squall line comes through and you are
taken aback, and find yourself hove-to
under full sail.

What do you do to get underway again?

Bart Senior


Start the engine and power back on course.
Unlash the wheel and turn on the autopilot.
Kick my self in the ass for letting it happen in the first place.

Joe
MSV RedCloud




Donal February 17th 04 12:05 AM

Ocean Sailing Question
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Why? Steady 25kts. I've locked the wheel before in the bay.



Hmmm...


We never get a *steady* 25 kts here. So maybe I just can't picture it.
If we have a 25 kt wind, then there will be gusts of more than 30...

Maybe my boat is a bit lighter than most??? I really cannot see myself
trusting a lashed helm with 30 kts over the deck.



Regards


Donal
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