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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
I was responding to skitch's comment... I've got some friends who sailed the St. Vincent, Grenadines, etc. and did have a minor annoyance with people as described, but it wasn't terrible. "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... Nothing like that in Belize. That's true. There is nothing and nobody in Belize. I was basicly speaking of islands south of the BVIs like the subject title suggests. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" Hi Jonathan, I sail already for 12 years in the southern caribbean(Martinique Venezuela) and I think that the Grenadines is just beautiful I recomend a trip St. Vincent to Union or Grenada really unspoilt. Check out http://www.islandtimeholidays.com for crewed charter yachts. Sunny Greetings from the Grenadines.Maria |
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I've heard it's pretty expensive... can you give me some of the costs
involved? "frits" wrote in message om... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... I was responding to skitch's comment... I've got some friends who sailed the St. Vincent, Grenadines, etc. and did have a minor annoyance with people as described, but it wasn't terrible. "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... Nothing like that in Belize. That's true. There is nothing and nobody in Belize. I was basicly speaking of islands south of the BVIs like the subject title suggests. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" Hi Jonathan, I sail already for 12 years in the southern caribbean(Martinique Venezuela) and I think that the Grenadines is just beautiful I recomend a trip St. Vincent to Union or Grenada really unspoilt. Check out http://www.islandtimeholidays.com for crewed charter yachts. Sunny Greetings from the Grenadines.Maria |
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Bob waffled:=20
The fact that you respond to these shallow trolls at all shows that it is you who is "worried" about who has more and less than you. Nope. The fact that I respond is that one gets very tired of your = constant ragging and put-downs of others. I could care less what you or = anyone else on this group has or has not. As long as they sail and = enjoy it and love their boats, that's all that matters. You don't sail, = you don't enjoy it, and you certainly don't love your boat. Or maybe = you're not anything at all like how you portray yourself....that would = make everything you say a lie. And would really pinpoint how truly sick = you are. --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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"katysails" wrote in message ... Bob waffled: The fact that you respond to these shallow trolls at all shows that it is you who is "worried" about who has more and less than you. Nope. The fact that I respond is that one gets very tired of your constant ragging and put-downs of others. I could care less what you or anyone else on this group has or has not. As long as they sail and enjoy it and love their boats, that's all that matters. You don't sail, you don't enjoy it, and you certainly don't love your boat. His boat is only a mere "stepping stone". For the rest of us, our boats are the realisation of a dream. Regards Donal -- |
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Except for the British spelling of realization, I agree with you.
"Donal" wrote in message ... "katysails" wrote in message ... Bob waffled: The fact that you respond to these shallow trolls at all shows that it is you who is "worried" about who has more and less than you. Nope. The fact that I respond is that one gets very tired of your constant ragging and put-downs of others. I could care less what you or anyone else on this group has or has not. As long as they sail and enjoy it and love their boats, that's all that matters. You don't sail, you don't enjoy it, and you certainly don't love your boat. His boat is only a mere "stepping stone". For the rest of us, our boats are the realisation of a dream. Regards Donal -- |
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The fact that I respond is that one gets very tired of your =
constant ragging and put-downs of others. I don't click on every thread and I don't take part or troll every thread, Katy. The fact that you've logged onto this one speaks volumes about your feelings about material wealth and security as a whole. Sorry...you really can't have it both ways. RB |
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Or maybe =
you're not anything at all like how you portray yourself....that would = make everything you say a lie. "Humor for humor's sake is generally based on tricks and lies. There will always some stuffed shirt who'll get angry about it." -Buster Keaton |
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Your failure is to realize that nobody give a crap what you think.
Based on the attention paid to my character, this statement you've made ranks as an all time laugh...almost as funny as your claims that you're straight! RB |
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I've heard it's pretty expensive... can you give me some of the costs
involved? He's wondering if there's a cover at the gay bars. Can you help him? RB |
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but you're not funny, just pathetic, very pathetic. And annoying.
SV "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Or maybe = you're not anything at all like how you portray yourself....that would = make everything you say a lie. "Humor for humor's sake is generally based on tricks and lies. There will always some stuffed shirt who'll get angry about it." -Buster Keaton |
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you've spelt realization wrong.
I guess I lost again, eh? Scotty "Donal" wrote in message ... His boat is only a mere "stepping stone". For the rest of us, our boats are the realisation of a dream. Regards Donal -- |
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Bull. You're the king of droll behavior. You WIN!
"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... The fact that I respond is that one gets very tired of your = constant ragging and put-downs of others. I don't click on every thread and I don't take part or troll every thread, Katy. The fact that you've logged onto this one speaks volumes about your feelings about material wealth and security as a whole. Sorry...you really can't have it both ways. RB |
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You're the boobie prize of this NG. You're the lifeform that
persists between the toes of someone's foot, an annoying itch that turns into pus if not dealt with properly. "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Your failure is to realize that nobody give a crap what you think. Based on the attention paid to my character, this statement you've made ranks as an all time laugh...almost as funny as your claims that you're straight! RB |
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Actually, I was going to ask you that, since you're obviously the expert
when it comes to all gay things. YOU WIN AGAIN! "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... I've heard it's pretty expensive... can you give me some of the costs involved? He's wondering if there's a cover at the gay bars. Can you help him? RB |
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wasn't it Buster who also said that the
difference between humor and odor is that humor is a shift of wit, while odor is a whiff of . . . Scout "Bobsprit" wrote "Humor for humor's sake is generally based on tricks and lies. There will always some stuffed shirt who'll get angry about it." -Buster Keaton |
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-Buster Keaton
Now there's a paragon of virtue.... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Bob misspoke (par usual): The fact that you've logged onto this one =
speaks volumes about your feelings about material wealth and security as a whole. The fact that I logged on to this thread is because I was interested in = the topic of sailing beyond the BVI...you just happened to raise your = ugly head in the middle of it and perverted it with your rantings. Your = narcissism is running away with itself. Better go catch it. --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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It's pretty sad isn't it... I feel a mixure of disgust and sorrow for the
guy. "katysails" wrote in message ... Bob misspoke (par usual): The fact that you've logged onto this one speaks volumes about your feelings about material wealth and security as a whole. The fact that I logged on to this thread is because I was interested in the topic of sailing beyond the BVI...you just happened to raise your ugly head in the middle of it and perverted it with your rantings. Your narcissism is running away with itself. Better go catch it. -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... you've spelt realization wrong. I guess I lost again, eh? Good news!!! You didn't lose properly. Your spelling flame was deficient. Realisation is the correct way to spell "realisation" in the language that I speak. What language are you using? Regards Donal -- "Donal" wrote in message ... His boat is only a mere "stepping stone". For the rest of us, our boats are the realisation of a dream. |
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I speak American. Seems fitting on an Amercan Sailing NG, eh?
SV "Donal" wrote Good news!!! You didn't lose properly. Your spelling flame was deficient. Realisation is the correct way to spell "realisation" in the language that I speak. What language are you using? |
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Is that like ebonics?
Cheeers Scott Vernon wrote: I speak American. |
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not even close.
"Nav" wrote in message ... Is that like ebonics? Cheeers Scott Vernon wrote: I speak American. |
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Pidgin?
Cheeers Scott Vernon wrote: not even close. "Nav" wrote in message ... Is that like ebonics? Cheeers Scott Vernon wrote: I speak American. |
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pigeon.
"Nav" misspelled... Pidgin? |
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Bwhahahahahahahahahha
Cheers Scott Vernon wrote: pigeon. "Nav" misspelled... Pidgin? |
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katysails wrote:
The fact that I logged on to this thread is because I was interested in the topic of sailing beyond the BVI... So, I will offer you my opinion: My favourite Caribbean islands used to be Dominica followed by St. Vincent and Grenada. Further down there is Tobago and Trinidad, well worth the visit. Why not visit Venezuela and maybe go down to the 3 Guyanas. To go to the Guyanas is a fairly long upwind sail, but at least you should have no trouble coming back. In my opinion the least interesting islands are St Thomas and St Martin. St Jan and the BVI's follow pretty close. The above is based on my preference for the "old" Caribbean, and my dislike of the tourist industry. I say this well aware that I am a tourist myself, and I have often found it convenient to go to the mayor Cruising spots like English Harbour, Rodney bay or St Thomas to stock, work or even to meet friends, but still I prefer to visit places where people live "their own life" as opposed to places where the international tourist industry dominates everything. I prefer dealing with the sometimes annoying boatboys from St Vincent and other places from dealing with the well oiled Club Mediterainne and the likes. "katysails" skrev i en meddelelse ... Bob misspoke (par usual): The fact that you've logged onto this one speaks volumes about your feelings about material wealth and security as a whole. The fact that I logged on to this thread is because I was interested in the topic of sailing beyond the BVI...you just happened to raise your ugly head in the middle of it and perverted it with your rantings. Your narcissism is running away with itself. Better go catch it. -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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I'm surprised you didn't say "shipt" them.
Anyway, the irony here is that English survived/evolved mainly because no one wanted to teach the savages on that god forsaken island (England) how to speak the language of the civilized world, id est, Latin. Go figure. Scout Oz wrote I hear the Poms shipped all the Brits who couldn't spell off to the US to preserve the quality of the language. I don't think they counted on Microsoft taking over the world language with its spell checkers. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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Peter spoke of the Guyanas:
and maybe go down to the 3 Guyanas.=20 I had heard that that was pretty dangerous....drug lord problems, = pirates, etc. My SIL was in Venezuela 2 years ago and said that = although one of the most beautiful places she'd been, was pretty nasty = away from direct civilization...very oppresive.... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Scotty asked; You don't know either? Go back to bed. The ng is mine between 6:30 - 7 am.... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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ha ha , Ozzy didn't get it.
SV "Nav" wrote in message ... Bwhahahahahahahahahha Cheers Scott Vernon wrote: pigeon. "Nav" misspelled... Pidgin? |
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How bad was the storm up your way? We're waiting for it here.
Will be in Akron OH tonite. Scotty "katysails" wrote in message ... Scotty asked; You don't know either? Go back to bed. The ng is mine between 6:30 - 7 am.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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"katysails" wrote Go back to bed. I wish I could. The ng is mine between 6:30 - 7 am.... You've got 2 minutes left. |
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Scotty asked; You don't know either?
Go back to bed. The ng is mine between 6:30 - 7 am.... Look! A romance is brewing! It's like Beauty and the Beast....more like Beast and the Beast! Or When Harry met Sally....more like When Hairy met Sloppy! Bwahahahaha! Scotty and Katy, sittin' in a tree...like the apes they both are! Mighty Joe Young and Chita! RB |
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Go back to bed.
I wish I could. We also wish you could. RB |
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katysails wrote:
Peter spoke of the Guyanas. I had heard that that was pretty dangerous....drug lord problems, pirates, etc. My SIL was in Venezuela 2 years ago and said that although one of the most beautiful places she'd been, was pretty nasty away from direct civilization...very oppresive.... Maybe my recommendation of a trip to the Guyannas, should have been balanced by a few warnings. Yes, I think one should be very conscious of the risks if visiting the Guyannas. In many places you should not leave the boat unattended. It should probably be considered more of an adventure than a relaxing vacation. With the right set of mind, it will probably be interesting though. I think Venezuela is more safe in general. Many places are fairly low risk, while others can be more of a challenge. Lots of cruisers used to spend most of the hurricane season in Venezuela. Besides the obvious advantage of avoiding (most of the) hurricane risk, they also appreciated the low living costs and used the opportunity to stock up on rum, diesel, canned gods etc. as much as the boat would carry or the money would allow. Some used the opportunity to get some repairs or improvements done. I never went to Columbia, because the attraction was less than my worries, but it's your own risk and your own decision. If you are looking for relaxing sail in secure areas, maybe you should stick with the islands and away from the continent, but I can't se any reason to stay in the northern part of the lesser antilles. When going to "risky" places, I think a lot depends on your own attitude and your appearance to the people you meet. If you look like a (boat) bum and are fairly "streetwise", you probably will avoid some of the trouble that people, who look ripe to pluck and has a self-righteous "US above the rest of the world" attitude, might get themselves into. Also, if you travel places like that, you will gradually improve your ability to judge the situation (and the situations) better. For me, visits to some of the (moderately) risky places have been rewarding and well worth the hassle. The fact that I have been able and lucky enough to avoid serious trouble, can of course not be taken as statistic proof, but I feel that the risks has been moderate compared to the value of the experience. I haven't the latest statistics but St. Thomas probably have a higher crimerate than any of the islands south of the BVIs. Peter S/Y Anicula |
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Exactly why I'm satisfied with the BVIs. I don't want to be assessing risk
while I'm on vacation. I do want to relax. In the BVIs we never lock the boat, we don't deal with boat boys and you can walk anywhere you want at 3 am if that's your desire. Sorry but I don't think it's crowded either. I don't need to be the only boat around. I like looking at other boats. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" |
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Scotty asked: How bad was the storm up your way? We're waiting for it =
here. Not bad...just slimy...had about 3 inches of snow but the temps rose to = 35 and made sucky slush all over the raods...temps fell this afternoon = so we're now back to where we were... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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"Peter S/Y Anicula" wrote
When going to "risky" places, I think a lot depends on your own attitude and your appearance to the people you meet. If you look ... ripe to pluck and has a self-righteous "US above the rest of the world" attitude, ..... This is true everywhere, including the USA. I came up in beautiful Compton, CA, and to normal peoples amazement go back to visit when I can. I was truly surprised to learn that most folks never see any violence let alone get to enjoy a good old down home ass kicking. They think that fat lips and ears and bloody noses are traumatic. But, as a result, they don't know how to act. In their world they can and do insult people, act superior and flaunt wealth with impunity. Police call them "victims". |
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