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Jeff Morris January 21st 04 04:25 PM

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Wonder how many have died from heart failure on a boat as opposed to a multi
sinking?


An odd thought, it brings to mind a few unrelated things: A friend of mine had
a J105 which his mother thought should be called "Sheer Terror." Also, the J
that got crunched in the fog in LIS this summer (I think it was a J105), the
owner died of a heart attack while the boat was sinking.

The one case that I know of where a cruising cat capsized on the Bermuda run the
owner died while trapped below because he couldn't find his diabetes medication.
The rest of the crew survived, but several monohulls were lost with all hands in
the same storm.

-jeff



Donal January 21st 04 04:38 PM

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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an inflatable rubber saucer is you only and/or best solution in case you

are
sinking?


Tell us more???



Do consider, however, that maybe you wouldn't be sinking if you had spent

part
of the the $6,000 cost of an installed inflatable rubber saucer on new
thru-hulls.


$6000??? You could tow a spare yacht for that sort of money!

Most liferafts that are used on 30-40' sailing vessels over here cost less
than $3300.
4 man rafts are available for less that $1800.00




Regards

Donal
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Scott Vernon January 21st 04 04:47 PM

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 
"Jeff Morris" wrote ...

"Scott Vernon" wrote ...
Wonder how many have died from heart failure on a boat as opposed to a

multi
sinking?


An odd thought,


I'm full of them.

The point I was going after was that maybe multi-hull sailors should buy
defibrillators before buying a life raft (rubber saucer).

SV



DSK January 21st 04 04:54 PM

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 
"Scott Vernon" wrote ...
Wonder how many have died from heart failure on a boat as opposed to a multi
sinking?


Jeff Morris wrote:
An odd thought, it brings to mind a few unrelated things: A friend of mine had
a J105 which his mother thought should be called "Sheer Terror." Also, the J
that got crunched in the fog in LIS this summer (I think it was a J105), the
owner died of a heart attack while the boat was sinking.

The one case that I know of where a cruising cat capsized on the Bermuda run the
owner died while trapped below because he couldn't find his diabetes medication.
The rest of the crew survived, but several monohulls were lost with all hands in
the same storm.


In the 1979 Fastnet Race disaster, at least one (I think it was actually two) people
died of heart attacks on their boats. The one I recall in detail was left on the
cabin sole of his boat while the rest of the crew abandoned ship into the liferaft,
which promptly got blown away, tumbled, and generally bashed around. They said later
that they'd have been *much* better off staying with the boat (hindsight... 20/20)
but could not have stayed with a dead man and his son forbid them to throw him
overboard. The boat (and it's owner's body) were recovered.

IIRC another died of a heart attack in a liferaft, not sure about that one.

Who thinks up these morbid topics?!?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Bobsprit January 21st 04 05:02 PM

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 
Compared to Ganzy and Scotty I'm frikin' Columbus!

RB


Which still makes me VERY inexperienced.

RB

Jonathan Ganz January 21st 04 05:07 PM

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 
From everything you tell us of course!!

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:46:44 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Well, you certainly have enough experience with
boyfriends to know!


How would you know?


"Horvath" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:04:53 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

So, what you're saying is, besides the implication that you're
unschooled in basic English, that no one needs an inflatable.
This is patently wrong. What would Neal do without his
blow up girlfriend?

You could loan him your blow up boyfriend.







This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe




Scott Vernon January 21st 04 05:24 PM

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 
No one does.

Scotty

"Thom Stewart" wrote ...
Nutsy,

Why should anyone take you serious about off shore sailing, when you've
yet to spend your first day sailing out of sight of land?

Get real.

Ole Thom



JAXAshby January 21st 04 06:02 PM

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 
well, they go four to six thou here, installed. a really, really simple
K-Mart beach toy like one goes a couple grand.

new thru-hulls are a lot less, and may be the difference between your making
port or the bottom.

Do consider, however, that maybe you wouldn't be sinking if you had spent

part
of the the $6,000 cost of an installed inflatable rubber saucer on new
thru-hulls.


$6000??? You could tow a spare yacht for that sort of money!

Most liferafts that are used on 30-40' sailing vessels over here cost less
than $3300.
4 man rafts are available for less that $1800.00




Regards

Donal
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Donal January 21st 04 06:35 PM

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
well, they go four to six thou here, installed. a really, really simple
K-Mart beach toy like one goes a couple grand.

new thru-hulls are a lot less, and may be the difference between your

making
port or the bottom.


I understand your point.

I was more interested in your question:
"an inflatable rubber saucer is you only and/or best solution in case you
are
sinking?"

What other options are you thinking about?

Regards


Donal
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Donal January 21st 04 06:39 PM

Sailing from Newport to Bermuda
 

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"Bobsprit" wrote

When did I say I was an experienced sailor,




Compared to Ganzy and Scotty I'm frikin' Columbus!

RB



Bob's gay? .... or a necrophiliac???




Regards


Donal
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