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"MC" wrote in message
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This weekend as I transporting gear to the car from the usual w/e away I
noticed a powerboat running a small pump discharging what seemed to be
sewage in the marina. I made a loud cough but said nothing else. As I
walked along the pier I became annoyed with myself for not doing
anything else. It is prohibited to discharge untreated sewage within 500
m of shore -so what would you do?

I suspect that your waters are very clean.

Is there a good reason why the discharge of raw sewage is prohibited?





Regards


Donal
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This weekend as I transporting gear to the car from the usual w/e away I
noticed a powerboat running a small pump discharging what seemed to be
sewage in the marina. I made a loud cough but said nothing else. As I
walked along the pier I became annoyed with myself for not doing
anything else. It is prohibited to discharge untreated sewage within 500
m of shore -so what would you do?

Cheers

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MC asked: what would you do?

I would have said something like "Excuse me, but it is illegal to pump =
your sewage here. If you don't stop immediately, I will repoirt you to =
the nearest authoity" Then I would plyg the holes made in my boat and =
go report the a-hole.

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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

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Donal asked: Is there a good reason why the discharge of raw sewage is =
prohibited?

Good gravy, Doanl...that's disgusting. Kids swim in our marina. We =
swim off our mooring. We fish off our boat and the kids at the Yacht =
Club fish off the docks. You want to go slogging around in someone =
else's fresh excrement be my guest, but keep it over in GB.


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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

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Several people have been busted in our marina for doing just that sort
of thing. I will neither confirm nor deny reporting them.

"MC" wrote in message
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This weekend as I transporting gear to the car from the usual w/e away I
noticed a powerboat running a small pump discharging what seemed to be
sewage in the marina. I made a loud cough but said nothing else. As I
walked along the pier I became annoyed with myself for not doing
anything else. It is prohibited to discharge untreated sewage within 500
m of shore -so what would you do?

Cheers

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loudly, within his earshot report him on my cellphone.
"MC" wrote in message
...
This weekend as I transporting gear to the car from the usual w/e away I
noticed a powerboat running a small pump discharging what seemed to be
sewage in the marina. I made a loud cough but said nothing else. As I
walked along the pier I became annoyed with myself for not doing
anything else. It is prohibited to discharge untreated sewage within 500
m of shore -so what would you do?

Cheers

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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:03:15 +1300, MC wrote this
crap:

This weekend as I transporting gear to the car from the usual w/e away I
noticed a powerboat running a small pump discharging what seemed to be
sewage in the marina. I made a loud cough but said nothing else. As I
walked along the pier I became annoyed with myself for not doing
anything else. It is prohibited to discharge untreated sewage within 500
m of shore -so what would you do?

You sure it was sewage? It might have been bilgewater, or something
out of his cooler. Did you smell it?




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Horvath wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:03:15 +1300, MC wrote this
crap:


This weekend as I transporting gear to the car from the usual w/e away I
noticed a powerboat running a small pump discharging what seemed to be
sewage in the marina. I made a loud cough but said nothing else. As I
walked along the pier I became annoyed with myself for not doing
anything else. It is prohibited to discharge untreated sewage within 500
m of shore -so what would you do?


You sure it was sewage? It might have been bilgewater, or something
out of his cooler. Did you smell it?


Certainly not. There were gallons being pumped... Since it was a glass
boat the bilgewater should be clean (unlike a rust bucket's bilge :-P)

Cheers

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Only you would smell it.

"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:03:15 +1300, MC wrote this
crap:

This weekend as I transporting gear to the car from the usual w/e away I
noticed a powerboat running a small pump discharging what seemed to be
sewage in the marina. I made a loud cough but said nothing else. As I
walked along the pier I became annoyed with myself for not doing
anything else. It is prohibited to discharge untreated sewage within 500
m of shore -so what would you do?

You sure it was sewage? It might have been bilgewater, or something
out of his cooler. Did you smell it?




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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 00:37:54 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Only you would smell it.

If it was sewage, you could smell it from five docks away, dumbass.


"Horvath" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:03:15 +1300, MC wrote this
crap:

This weekend as I transporting gear to the car from the usual w/e away I
noticed a powerboat running a small pump discharging what seemed to be
sewage in the marina. I made a loud cough but said nothing else. As I
walked along the pier I became annoyed with myself for not doing
anything else. It is prohibited to discharge untreated sewage within 500
m of shore -so what would you do?

You sure it was sewage? It might have been bilgewater, or something
out of his cooler. Did you smell it?




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"katysails" answered:
MC asked: what would you do?

I would have said something like "Excuse me, but it is illegal to pump
your sewage here. If you don't stop immediately, I will repoirt you to
the nearest authoity" Then I would plyg the holes made in my boat and
go report the a-hole.

I'll essentially ditto Katy. Tell him to stop. Stay and watch. If he
does, ok. If not, report him.

Frank

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Is that what your boyfriend says about your armpits?

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 00:37:54 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Only you would smell it.

If it was sewage, you could smell it from five docks away, dumbass.


"Horvath" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:03:15 +1300, MC wrote this
crap:

This weekend as I transporting gear to the car from the usual w/e away
I
noticed a powerboat running a small pump discharging what seemed to be
sewage in the marina. I made a loud cough but said nothing else. As I
walked along the pier I became annoyed with myself for not doing
anything else. It is prohibited to discharge untreated sewage within
500
m of shore -so what would you do?

You sure it was sewage? It might have been bilgewater, or something
out of his cooler. Did you smell it?




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MC wrote in message ...
This weekend as I transporting gear to the car from the usual w/e away I
noticed a powerboat running a small pump discharging what seemed to be
sewage in the marina. I made a loud cough but said nothing else. As I
walked along the pier I became annoyed with myself for not doing
anything else. It is prohibited to discharge untreated sewage within 500
m of shore -so what would you do?

Cheers


Here MC we have pumpout carts. That way If you do not want to pull
around to the pumpoff station you can wheel a cart around and pump out
on it than dump the cart at the pumpout. If you have the same perhaps
you should of brought him a cart. Or directed him to the pumpout
station. If he did not take a hint go back late at night and take a
big dump in his wheelhouse.

Joe
MSV RedCloud

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Joe wrote:

MC wrote in message ...

This weekend as I transporting gear to the car from the usual w/e away I
noticed a powerboat running a small pump discharging what seemed to be
sewage in the marina. I made a loud cough but said nothing else. As I
walked along the pier I became annoyed with myself for not doing
anything else. It is prohibited to discharge untreated sewage within 500
m of shore -so what would you do?

Cheers



Here MC we have pumpout carts. That way If you do not want to pull
around to the pumpoff station you can wheel a cart around and pump out
on it than dump the cart at the pumpout. If you have the same perhaps
you should of brought him a cart. Or directed him to the pumpout
station. If he did not take a hint go back late at night and take a
big dump in his wheelhouse.



Now that's an intersting idea but the security cams might be a problem...

Cheers

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MC said: Now that's an intersting idea but the security cams might be a =
problem...

"Blue moon, I saw you standing alone...."


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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

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"katysails" wrote in message
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Donal asked: Is there a good reason why the discharge of raw sewage is
prohibited?

Good gravy, Doanl...that's disgusting. Kids swim in our marina. We swim
off our mooring. We fish off our boat and the kids at the Yacht Club fish
off the docks. You want to go slogging around in someone else's fresh
excrement be my guest, but keep it over in GB.


Ah! Nobody swims in our marina. Also, I never use the boat's head in
any marina either, apart from occasional liquid discharge in one of the
large French marinas, where the shoreside facilities are locked after 23:00
..

My question was genuine. Swimmers are a good reason to ban any discharge.

It is also possible that I see things a bit differently because we have a
good tidal range here. Most of the marinas that I visit have a complete
change of water twice a day.

I'm guessing here, but I'd say that 80% of the water gets replaced in
Portsmouth Harbour on a spring tide. Many of the French harbours dry
completely!



Regards

Donal
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Horvath wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:03:15 +1300, MC wrote this
crap:
You sure it was sewage? It might have been bilgewater, or something
out of his cooler. Did you smell it?

Certainly not. There were gallons being pumped... Since it was a glass
boat the bilgewater should be clean (unlike a rust bucket's bilge :-P)

Bing!!

We don't have many holding tanks here. It's totally illegal to empty a
holding tank within 2(??) miles of the shore.

I suspect that I would cough loudly. After that it would depend on the
appearance of the individual. If he looked like he could kick the crap out
of me, then I would smile politely and say "Nice boat!". If he looked like
a weasel, then I would politely ask if he was aware that pumping out a
holding tank carried a large fine.

Of course, hindsight is a great thing. In reality, most of us would walk on
because we need time to sift the information.



Regards


Donal
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"Donal" wrote in message
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We don't have many holding tanks here. It's totally illegal to empty a
holding tank within 2(??) miles of the shore.

I don't follow - are you saying its illegal to dump a holding tank, but it is
legal to direct discharge?

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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:19:57 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Is that what your boyfriend says about your armpits?

No. That's what your mommy says about you.

Only you would smell it.

If it was sewage, you could smell it from five docks away, dumbass.




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Oh wow. I'm so impressed by your sharp wit and big
tits.

"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:19:57 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Is that what your boyfriend says about your armpits?

No. That's what your mommy says about you.

Only you would smell it.

If it was sewage, you could smell it from five docks away, dumbass.




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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
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We don't have many holding tanks here. It's totally illegal to empty a
holding tank within 2(??) miles of the shore.

I don't follow - are you saying its illegal to dump a holding tank, but it
is
legal to direct discharge?

Yes! Although local bye-laws may(rarely) make direct discharge illegal.
It will depend on the area. If you are in a drying, fishing harbour, with a
12m tide, that flushes into the Atlantic twice a day, then having a pee
isn't going to cause a problem. However, if you are in a marina that has
lock gates, then things are completely different.


Regards


Donal
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"Lanod" sniffed...

It's totally illegal to empty a
holding tank within 2(??) miles of the shore.

You don't know, Yachtmaster?


I suspect that I would cough loudly. After that it would depend on the
appearance of the individual. If he looked like he could kick the crap
out
of me,

TRANSlation: Anybody over 5' tall.



Of course, hindsight is a great thing. In reality, most of us would walk
on
because we need time to sift the information.

Here in the Land of Freedom we would yell ,''hey asshole, stop it, or
else!!!!"

Scotty

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Here in the Land of Freedom we would yell ,''hey asshole, stop it, or
else!!!!"

Wouldn't he just shoot you? Or, perhaps you would both have guns??

Regards


Donal
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Sorry, I forgot where you're from, subject. Of course we'd both have guns,
but when one starts a conversation with, ''hey asshole'', one should always
have one hand on ones' gun.

Scotty

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Here in the Land of Freedom we would yell ,''hey asshole, stop it, or
else!!!!"

Wouldn't he just shoot you? Or, perhaps you would both have guns??

Regards


Donal
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Donal wrote:

Many of the French harbours dry
completely!



May French harbours are spoiled by the presence of
French female body hair, still attached to said bodies, yes?

Cheers
Marty

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Sorry, I forgot where you're from, subject. Of course we'd both have
guns,
but when one starts a conversation with, ''hey asshole'', one should
always
have one hand on ones' gun.


My folks bought house from a widow who's husband had been shot dead by the
next door neighbor. The coronor's jury had ruled it suicide when they
discovered that the victim's last words were "Shut up, bitch" directed at
the shooter's wife whilst the shooter was holding a rifle. American Fork,
Utah circa 1947.

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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 17:01:41 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Oh wow. I'm so impressed by your sharp wit and big
tits.

I'm playing with my nipples right now. Does that excite you,
Homo-Jon-boy?


"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:19:57 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Is that what your boyfriend says about your armpits?

No. That's what your mommy says about you.

Only you would smell it.

If it was sewage, you could smell it from five docks away, dumbass.




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Horvath wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 17:01:41 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:


Oh wow. I'm so impressed by your sharp wit and big
tits.


I'm playing with my nipples right now. Does that excite you,
Homo-Jon-boy?



Good Lord.

Cheers

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hahahahahahaaaaa Horass, you are soooo odd.

"MC" wrote in message
...


Horvath wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 17:01:41 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:


Oh wow. I'm so impressed by your sharp wit and big
tits.


I'm playing with my nipples right now. Does that excite you,
Homo-Jon-boy?



Good Lord.

Cheers

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I'd turn him in. There are degrees of pollution.
You don't **** in your own bed. If you dump in a
marina or harbor, where people might swim, or it
might wash up on shore, then you deserve a beating.

The only time I'd discharge overboard, is when I
had no other option. For example, if I chartered
a boat without a holding tank and I was not
violating any laws. Still I would feel very
uncomfortable about it around other people.

Frankly, I think the BVI, for example, needs to
wake up and require holding tanks in all vessels
in the islands. Don't make people discharge in a
harbor!

So if you are chartering a boat with no holding
tank what do you do?

I wouldn't want to swim around a bunch of other
boats with direct discharge! In the USA, direct
discharge is forbidden and everyone has holding
tanks except for small boats. Even on my little
boat, when using a bucket, it is always offshore
aways. People are usually too embarrassed to use
the bucket and hold it when we are near shore.

I make a point of anchoring way out with the big
yachts. For one thing I like to anchor. For
another I like to hang next to the finer yachts,
and sail into my chosen spot--not motor. Only
pussies pick up moorings close to shore. I
suspect it is because they have never anchored
before. I've found that lots of sailors are
afraid to anchor! They always motor in too. So
why take an in-close mooring, so you can swim in
dirty water? So you can be around a lot of noise?
So you have a shorter dryer dinghy ride? Not me.

The idea is this, lets not all discharge in the
same place and not in places that don't have good
water circulation like a marina or harbor. That
is very bad etiquette and deserving of at least a
harsh verbal reprimand, and a fine might be a good
way to make the point stick. All this is assuming
you have a holding tank.

Now, if you are 2.5 miles offshore instead of 3 and
no one is within a mile of you. Do you need to plot
your exact position to verify the distance? No, use
common sense.

The other point is we have all been in positions were
we didn't speak up when we should. Next time
demonstrate some leadership. Be the bad guy and give
a harsh reprimand. Make them stop and if they
have a bad attitude, call the harbor nazi's if you
have to, and bear witness against them.

Don't think about what you should have done after the
fact. When someone is a damn fool, stop them from doing
what they're doing and correct them on the spot.

Bart Senior


MC wrote

This weekend as I transporting gear to the car from the usual w/e away I
noticed a powerboat running a small pump discharging what seemed to be
sewage in the marina. I made a loud cough but said nothing else. As I
walked along the pier I became annoyed with myself for not doing
anything else. It is prohibited to discharge untreated sewage within 500
m of shore -so what would you do?

Cheers

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Was it being pumped out of a cedar bucket?

Or maybe Neal uses a different method of disposing of his waste. When
he is full of it, he gets rid of it by posting it here in this NG.

Lonny


MC wrote in message ...
This weekend as I transporting gear to the car from the usual w/e away I
noticed a powerboat running a small pump discharging what seemed to be
sewage in the marina. I made a loud cough but said nothing else. As I
walked along the pier I became annoyed with myself for not doing
anything else. It is prohibited to discharge untreated sewage within 500
m of shore -so what would you do?

Cheers

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I agree with the BVI part. It can't be that hard to
install pumpout stations. They're argument against
it is that they then have to deal with what comes
into the pumpout station... big deal.

The main problems with anchoring is some parts
of BVI are the lousy holding and the potential
damage to the reefs. That's why they encourage
people to moor vs. anchor. Coopers is a good
example of lousy holding. While I've anhored out
there every time (5 times), it can take a couple of
shots to get it right. We dragged once, but it wasn't
serious.

Places like the Indians, the Dogs, or Cockroach, you
need to moor for the sake of the reefs, but those aren't
overnight moorings.

"N1EE" wrote in message
om...
I'd turn him in. There are degrees of pollution.
You don't **** in your own bed. If you dump in a
marina or harbor, where people might swim, or it
might wash up on shore, then you deserve a beating.

The only time I'd discharge overboard, is when I
had no other option. For example, if I chartered
a boat without a holding tank and I was not
violating any laws. Still I would feel very
uncomfortable about it around other people.

Frankly, I think the BVI, for example, needs to
wake up and require holding tanks in all vessels
in the islands. Don't make people discharge in a
harbor!

So if you are chartering a boat with no holding
tank what do you do?

I wouldn't want to swim around a bunch of other
boats with direct discharge! In the USA, direct
discharge is forbidden and everyone has holding
tanks except for small boats. Even on my little
boat, when using a bucket, it is always offshore
aways. People are usually too embarrassed to use
the bucket and hold it when we are near shore.

I make a point of anchoring way out with the big
yachts. For one thing I like to anchor. For
another I like to hang next to the finer yachts,
and sail into my chosen spot--not motor. Only
pussies pick up moorings close to shore. I
suspect it is because they have never anchored
before. I've found that lots of sailors are
afraid to anchor! They always motor in too. So
why take an in-close mooring, so you can swim in
dirty water? So you can be around a lot of noise?
So you have a shorter dryer dinghy ride? Not me.

The idea is this, lets not all discharge in the
same place and not in places that don't have good
water circulation like a marina or harbor. That
is very bad etiquette and deserving of at least a
harsh verbal reprimand, and a fine might be a good
way to make the point stick. All this is assuming
you have a holding tank.

Now, if you are 2.5 miles offshore instead of 3 and
no one is within a mile of you. Do you need to plot
your exact position to verify the distance? No, use
common sense.

The other point is we have all been in positions were
we didn't speak up when we should. Next time
demonstrate some leadership. Be the bad guy and give
a harsh reprimand. Make them stop and if they
have a bad attitude, call the harbor nazi's if you
have to, and bear witness against them.

Don't think about what you should have done after the
fact. When someone is a damn fool, stop them from doing
what they're doing and correct them on the spot.

Bart Senior


MC wrote

This weekend as I transporting gear to the car from the usual w/e away I
noticed a powerboat running a small pump discharging what seemed to be
sewage in the marina. I made a loud cough but said nothing else. As I
walked along the pier I became annoyed with myself for not doing
anything else. It is prohibited to discharge untreated sewage within 500
m of shore -so what would you do?

Cheers

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As I recall, he was mostly dumping it on your head.

"Lonny" wrote in message
m...
Was it being pumped out of a cedar bucket?

Or maybe Neal uses a different method of disposing of his waste. When
he is full of it, he gets rid of it by posting it here in this NG.

Lonny


MC wrote in message
...
This weekend as I transporting gear to the car from the usual w/e away I
noticed a powerboat running a small pump discharging what seemed to be
sewage in the marina. I made a loud cough but said nothing else. As I
walked along the pier I became annoyed with myself for not doing
anything else. It is prohibited to discharge untreated sewage within 500
m of shore -so what would you do?

Cheers