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If your Rap full and have a flaw, how were you, and what happened?
Can you reeve and jump a cod line? And if you can, what are you doing with what? Have you ever seen a kumatage? Why are those Navy coats called Pea coats? Whats it mean to scud. Was the skipper right in calling his boat the S.S. Minnow? Joe MSV Redcloud |
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"Joe" wrote in message om... If your Rap full and have a flaw, how were you, and what happened? Can you reeve and jump a cod line? And if you can, what are you doing with what? Have you ever seen a kumatage? Sure, but only on the horizon... Why are those Navy coats called Pea coats? From pilot cloth... first letter "P" Whats it mean to scud. Was the skipper right in calling his boat the S.S. Minnow? Joe MSV Redcloud |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
Can't answer them all... "Joe" wrote in message om... If your Rap full and have a flaw, how were you, and what happened? Can you reeve and jump a cod line? And if you can, what are you doing with what? Have you ever seen a kumatage? Sure, but only on the horizon... Very Good Johnathan, you cant see them anywere else. Why are those Navy coats called Pea coats? From pilot cloth... first letter "P" Correct, But some claim it has something to do with Pea soup fog, the Fog that stops Lanod. Whats it mean to scud. Was the skipper right in calling his boat the S.S. Minnow? Joe MSV Redcloud Joe |
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Yes, as that was the name that was on the boat.
SV Was the skipper right in calling his boat the S.S. Minnow? Joe MSV Redcloud |
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Bart answered: No, because it is doubtful the Minnow was a Steam Ship =
(S.S). No...but there sure was a lot of gas.... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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no one knew that to scud is to run before a gale with little or no sail set.... Also.... a gust of wind. Ragged low clouds, moving rapidly beneath another cloud layer. American Heritage 3rd Edition. I wish I had been paying attention - I didn't notice this question. There's an old saying around Portsmouth and Cape Ann: In the event of a Nor'easter in the Bay, one should "hoist the fores'l and scud for Squam!" meaning Annisquam, on the north side of Gloucester. |
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look at theses pics. http://www.gilligansisle.com/minnow.html
The name ON the boat is ''S.S. Minnow''. Scotty "Joe" wrote in message Most knew this cept Scotty. S.S. is offically ment to infer a Steam Ship, Gilligan thought it ment small ship. |
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MV= Merchant Vessel
MSV= motor Sailing Vessel (an abomination) SV= Scott Vernon (a real sailor) ARA= Active Radar Array or Armada de la Republic Argentina BRP= Barka ng Republika ng Pilipinas (ships of phillipines) HMS=Her Majesty's Ship HMCS= Her Majesty's Canook Ship HMNZS = Her Majesty's New Zealand ship HMAS= Her Majesty's Awstralian Sheep INS=Israeli Navy Ship "Joe" wrote in message Who knows what MV,MSV,SV,ARA,BRP,HS,LE,HMS,MHAS,HMCS,RMS,HMNZS,HD MS and INS stands for? Joe MSV RedCloud Joe MSV Redcloud |
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look at theses pics. http://www.gilligansisle.com/minnow.html The name ON the boat is ''S.S. Minnow''. Scotty Ok Scotty I concide, Perhaps he was right in calling it the ss minnow, but he was wrong in naming it the ss anything. A correct name would of been MV Minnow. After all the 2 detroits onboard are not steam powered. Sheeeeeze your picky! Joe "Joe" wrote in message Most knew this cept Scotty. S.S. is offically ment to infer a Steam Ship, Gilligan thought it ment small ship. |
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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message news:btn29o$99jkb$1@ID-
MSV= motor Sailing Vessel (an abomination) Thats funny coming from someone that owned a McGregor speedboat/sailboat The joke of the 7 seas. Joe MSV Redcloud |
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Joe erroneously replied: Thats funny coming from someone that owned a =
McGregor speedboat/sailboat He didn't own a Mac 25X...He woned a MacGregor sailboat....they do make = other thins than the abomination=20 --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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A little touchy aren't we? BTW, my Mac26S (not 'X' ) had an 8hp Honda
outboard. What's your MSV have for a motor? Scotty "Joe" wrote in message om... "Scott Vernon" wrote in message news:btn29o$99jkb$1@ID- MSV= motor Sailing Vessel (an abomination) Thats funny coming from someone that owned a McGregor speedboat/sailboat The joke of the 7 seas. Joe MSV Redcloud |
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OH, I forgot to mention that I made a profit on that boat.
Scotty "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... A little touchy aren't we? BTW, my Mac26S (not 'X' ) had an 8hp Honda outboard. What's your MSV have for a motor? Scotty "Joe" wrote in message om... "Scott Vernon" wrote in message news:btn29o$99jkb$1@ID- MSV= motor Sailing Vessel (an abomination) Thats funny coming from someone that owned a McGregor speedboat/sailboat The joke of the 7 seas. Joe MSV Redcloud |
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So what's my score?
"Joe" wrote in message om... "Scott Vernon" wrote in message news:btn29o$99jkb$1@ID- MSV= motor Sailing Vessel (an abomination) Thats funny coming from someone that owned a McGregor speedboat/sailboat The joke of the 7 seas. Joe MSV Redcloud |
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A little touchy aren't we? BTW, my Mac26S (not 'X' ) had an 8hp Honda outboard. What's your MSV have for a motor? Scotty It has a Ford Bowman, 110 hp inboard deisel. Same as a ford Leaman(sp) just converted by Bowman, they make much better heat exchangers. And I have a 12 hp 2 clyinder Lister 7.5kw gen set. Just above idle with 10 kts of wind I cruise at 8-9 kts. with 15-20 knots I can shut her down and crusie at 8-9 knots. Has a 1100 mile motoring range . Joe MSV RedCloud "Joe" wrote in message om... "Scott Vernon" wrote in message news:btn29o$99jkb$1@ID- MSV= motor Sailing Vessel (an abomination) Thats funny coming from someone that owned a McGregor speedboat/sailboat The joke of the 7 seas. Joe MSV Redcloud |
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"Joe" wrote in message om... "Scott Vernon" wrote in message news:btn29o$99jkb$1@ID- MSV= motor Sailing Vessel (an abomination) Thats funny coming from someone that owned a McGregor speedboat/sailboat The joke of the 7 seas. Joe ... you know as much about Scotty's previous boat as you do about Bush's reasons for going to war. You should steer clear of subjects where knowledge might be useful. Regards Donal -- |
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OH, I forgot to mention that I made a profit on that boat.
You mean you made enough back to cover the years of associated costs? Wow! RB |
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"Joe" wrote in message om... "Donal" wrote in message ... "Joe" wrote in message om... "Scott Vernon" wrote in message news:btn29o$99jkb$1@ID- MSV= motor Sailing Vessel (an abomination) Thats funny coming from someone that owned a McGregor speedboat/sailboat The joke of the 7 seas. Joe ... you know as much about Scotty's previous boat as you do about Bush's reasons for going to war. You should steer clear of subjects where knowledge might be useful. At least I know how to use radars and radios. Unlike U. No, you don't. You think that you can do 25kts under Radar alone, without hotting anything. Now, what was Scotty's previous boat? You never did tell anyone how you yachtmasters navigate without any aids or inputs. Remember the wave slapping on the hull **** you spewed? I thought that I wouldn't need to explain the basics of navigation here. Yachtmasters only have to show that they can navigate without external inputs to prove that they understand the basic principles of navigation. Would you find this test a bit difficult? Regards Donal -- |
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No, Dickhead, I meant what I said.
"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... OH, I forgot to mention that I made a profit on that boat. You mean you made enough back to cover the years of associated costs? Wow! RB |
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No, Dickhead, I meant what I said.
Scrotum breath, you SAID you made money. You didn't. You're a liar and a fag. Now go dig up your mother and get some lovin. Dickless! Bwahahahaha RB |
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"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message om... "Scott Vernon" wrote in message news:btn29o$99jkb$1@ID- MSV= motor Sailing Vessel (an abomination) Thats funny coming from someone that owned a McGregor speedboat/sailboat The joke of the 7 seas. Joe ... you know as much about Scotty's previous boat as you do about Bush's reasons for going to war. You should steer clear of subjects where knowledge might be useful. At least I know how to use radars and radios. Unlike U. You never did tell anyone how you yachtmasters navigate without any aids or inputs. Remember the wave slapping on the hull **** you spewed? Yachtmaster wannabe........what a joke. And at least Im smart enough not to buy a bent a toe. Joe MSV RedCloud Regards Donal -- |
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"Lanod"
You never did tell anyone how you yachtmasters navigate without any aids or inputs. Remember the wave slapping on the hull **** you spewed? I thought that I wouldn't need to explain the basics of navigation here. Yachtmasters only have to show that they can navigate without external inputs to prove that they understand the basic principles of navigation. Tell us O yachtmaster, How do you navigate without external input? You cant.... can you? Joe MSV RedCloud Would you find this test a bit difficult? Regards Donal -- |
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So what's my score? You get an S. O= Outstanding S= Satifactory L= Limited Joe "Joe" wrote in message om... "Scott Vernon" wrote in message news:btn29o$99jkb$1@ID- MSV= motor Sailing Vessel (an abomination) Thats funny coming from someone that owned a McGregor speedboat/sailboat The joke of the 7 seas. Joe MSV Redcloud |
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Joe wrote: "Lanod" You never did tell anyone how you yachtmasters navigate without any aids or inputs. Remember the wave slapping on the hull **** you spewed? I thought that I wouldn't need to explain the basics of navigation here. Yachtmasters only have to show that they can navigate without external inputs to prove that they understand the basic principles of navigation. Tell us O yachtmaster, How do you navigate without external input? You cant.... can you? Isn't that similar to what what Jax used to say Albert Eistein said? :-))) Cheers - |
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"Joe" wrote in message om... "Lanod" You never did tell anyone how you yachtmasters navigate without any aids or inputs. Remember the wave slapping on the hull **** you spewed? I thought that I wouldn't need to explain the basics of navigation here. Yachtmasters only have to show that they can navigate without external inputs to prove that they understand the basic principles of navigation. Tell us O yachtmaster, How do you navigate without external input? Joe, you make me see red! Yes, you guessed correctly! I'm only talking about your neck! Please read my previous post again ... and this time try to understand it. The "blind" test is done to establish the student's ability to predict a boat's track from data such as tide tables, wind speed and direction, and knowledge of a boat's performance. For example, when I cross the channel, I will usually be out of sight of land for many hours. If I am using trad nav, then I will only have the wake as an external indicator. I will have to use predictive skills to determine my position. On a 70 mile trip, I will be accurate to within one mile. I accept that this accuracy might be different on a trans-Atlantic crossing, as I have no experience of such things. Regards Donal -- |
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"Joe" wrote in message om... "Lanod" You never did tell anyone how you yachtmasters navigate without any aids or inputs. Remember the wave slapping on the hull **** you spewed? I thought that I wouldn't need to explain the basics of navigation here. Yachtmasters only have to show that they can navigate without external inputs to prove that they understand the basic principles of navigation. Tell us O yachtmaster, How do you navigate without external input? Joe, you make me see red! Yes, you guessed correctly! I'm only talking about your neck! Please read my previous post again ... and this time try to understand it. The "blind" test is done to establish the student's ability to predict a boat's track from data such as tide tables, wind speed and direction, and knowledge of a boat's performance. For example, when I cross the channel, I will usually be out of sight of land for many hours. If I am using trad nav, then I will only have the wake as an external indicator. HEY DONAL A WAKE IS EXTERNAL INPUT!!!!!!!!!!!! I will have to use predictive skills to determine my position. BUY SEEING THE SET OF YOUR WAKE? THATS EXTERNAL!!!! On a 70 mile trip, I will be accurate to within one mile. BECAUSE OF EXTERNAL IMPUT YOU GOT BY SEEING YOUR WAKE AND MAKING CORRECTIONS USING YOUR COMPASS COURSE, WHICH IS EXTERNAL IMPUT, unless your on a bent a toe and the wake is in the bildge. I accept that this accuracy might be different on a trans-Atlantic crossing, as I have no experience of such things. Thats mighty humble coming from a yachtmaster wanna be. Now tell us how your going to be in the blind with no external imput and navigate O yachtmaster. Joe MSV RedCloud Regards Donal -- |
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"Joe" wrote in message om... "Donal" wrote in message ... "Joe" wrote in message om... "Lanod" You never did tell anyone how you yachtmasters navigate without any aids or inputs. Remember the wave slapping on the hull **** you spewed? I thought that I wouldn't need to explain the basics of navigation here. Yachtmasters only have to show that they can navigate without external inputs to prove that they understand the basic principles of navigation. Tell us O yachtmaster, How do you navigate without external input? Joe, you make me see red! Yes, you guessed correctly! I'm only talking about your neck! Please read my previous post again ... and this time try to understand it. The "blind" test is done to establish the student's ability to predict a boat's track from data such as tide tables, wind speed and direction, and knowledge of a boat's performance. For example, when I cross the channel, I will usually be out of sight of land for many hours. If I am using trad nav, then I will only have the wake as an external indicator. HEY DONAL A WAKE IS EXTERNAL INPUT!!!!!!!!!!!! YES, JOE. THAT'S WHY I CALLED IT AN EXTERNAL INDICATOR! Sheesh! This is hard work [ wipes perspiration off brow] I will have to use predictive skills to determine my position. BUY SEEING THE SET OF YOUR WAKE? THATS EXTERNAL!!!! I KNOW! THAT IS WHY I CALLED IT **EXTERNAL**. [wipes more perspitarion off brow] On a 70 mile trip, I will be accurate to within one mile. BECAUSE OF EXTERNAL IMPUT YOU GOT BY SEEING YOUR WAKE AND MAKING CORRECTIONS USING YOUR COMPASS COURSE, WHICH IS EXTERNAL IMPUT, unless your on a bent a toe and the wake is in the bildge. Oh, good. All that shouting was tiring me out, and I do think that your face turned quite red, too. Joe, I was pointing out that sailors have been sailing with very little external input for a very long time. It is possible to sail with a fair degree of accuracy without much in the way of inputs. Little over a generation ago, many people would cross the channel (60 - 70 miles) with no instruments at all, apart from a rudimentary compass. You seem to have a problem understanding this. I can't understand how anybody, with even a rudimentary amount of navigational training, cannot grasp the fact that it is possible to plan a course, and sail to it, and arrive at one's destination using a chart, tide tables, compass, watch and a pencil. I accept that this accuracy might be different on a trans-Atlantic crossing, as I have no experience of such things. Thats mighty humble coming from a yachtmaster wanna be. Humility is an important characteristic in a Yachtmaster! Maybe you should do the course?? Now tell us how your going to be in the blind with no external imput and navigate O yachtmaster. Tsk, tsk. You're beginning to twist my words. Regards Donal -- |
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... Joe, I was pointing out that sailors have been sailing with very little external input for a very long time. It is possible to sail with a fair degree of accuracy without much in the way of inputs. Little over a generation ago, many people would cross the channel (60 - 70 miles) with no instruments at all, apart from a rudimentary compass. I've been wait for you to describe what you meant by "no external inputs." Clearly, if you had no inputs, (and no inertial guidance system) it would be difficulty indeed to deduce where you were. And if all you meant was no GPS, then the discussion is almost as meaningless. But you claim in your previous post 1 mile accuracy for a 70 mile trip, crossing a channel the has (I think) a current of several knots. Is this really feasible? This implies a distance accuracy of about 1.5 %, which thus implies a speed accuracy of about 0.1 knots. I doubt there's anyone here that would claim to be able to "eyeball" a boat's speed with anywhere near this accuracy. I'm not sure I could reliably calibrate my log this well, and I certainly wouldn't trust it a day later. And the course accuracy? That's better than 1 degree. Again, I know I can't hold a course that well over time, but I would also argue that most compasses aren't that accurate to start with. In fact, there are some locations where the variation isn't that stable either. And can anyone give the leeway figures for their boat that accurately? If the wind is variable can you integrate the net affects over time? And how accurate does one know the current? Even if you adjust for the state of the tide and the phase of the moon, can you predict the current to 0.1 knot? Can one argue that many errors are possible but they tend to cancel out? Nope, it doesn't work that way; although there will likely be some canceling. No, I can't buy your claim of 1 mile accuracy in a 70 mile trip, with only a compass; I doubt you ever did it, and you certainly couldn't do it reliably. Its certainly true that there were many, many coastal passages 100 years ago, and I'm not going to claim that the accident rate was infinitely higher back then. (It was, but that's not important.) But they did have other tools that we tend to forget about: Lighthouses, fog horn, lead lines etc. They weren't quite as blind as you're making them out to be. BTW, I have done the experiment of sailing "blind" a number of times. I served as a guide for a blind sailor a number of times, so I tried it out to see what it was like. I refined it into a "parlor trick" for my students, where I would lie in the bottom of the boat while they sailed about a mile around the river basin. I could tell them where we were to within a 100 yards or so. The was that because I had sailed this one square mile almost exclusively for 15 years, I could locate myself any time by a number of cues, such as the traffic noise from shore, or the wind patterns from buildings, or the different sounds of the boats from different clubs. Like I said, a parlor trick. But someone who crossed the Channel daily all their life would have the same ability. |
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"Joe" wrote in message om... "Donal" wrote in message ... "Joe" wrote in message om... "Lanod" You never did tell anyone how you yachtmasters navigate without any aids or inputs. Remember the wave slapping on the hull **** you spewed? I thought that I wouldn't need to explain the basics of navigation here. Yachtmasters only have to show that they can navigate without external inputs to prove that they understand the basic principles of navigation. Tell us O yachtmaster, How do you navigate without external input? Joe, you make me see red! Yes, you guessed correctly! I'm only talking about your neck! Please read my previous post again ... and this time try to understand it. The "blind" test is done to establish the student's ability to predict a boat's track from data such as tide tables, wind speed and direction, and knowledge of a boat's performance. For example, when I cross the channel, I will usually be out of sight of land for many hours. If I am using trad nav, then I will only have the wake as an external indicator. HEY DONAL A WAKE IS EXTERNAL INPUT!!!!!!!!!!!! YES, JOE. THAT'S WHY I CALLED IT AN EXTERNAL INDICATOR! Sheesh! This is hard work [ wipes perspiration off brow] I will have to use predictive skills to determine my position. BUY SEEING THE SET OF YOUR WAKE? THATS EXTERNAL!!!! I KNOW! THAT IS WHY I CALLED IT **EXTERNAL**. [wipes more perspitarion off brow] On a 70 mile trip, I will be accurate to within one mile. BECAUSE OF EXTERNAL IMPUT YOU GOT BY SEEING YOUR WAKE AND MAKING CORRECTIONS USING YOUR COMPASS COURSE, WHICH IS EXTERNAL IMPUT, unless your on a bent a toe and the wake is in the bildge. Oh, good. All that shouting was tiring me out, and I do think that your face turned quite red, too. Joe, I was pointing out that sailors have been sailing with very little external input for a very long time. No you said " Blacked out porthole with no external imput" I agree it can be done very well with little imput. Joe It is possible to sail with a fair degree of accuracy without much in the way of inputs. Little over a generation ago, many people would cross the channel (60 - 70 miles) with no instruments at all, apart from a rudimentary compass. You seem to have a problem understanding this. I can't understand how anybody, with even a rudimentary amount of navigational training, cannot grasp the fact that it is possible to plan a course, and sail to it, and arrive at one's destination using a chart, tide tables, compass, watch and a pencil. I accept that this accuracy might be different on a trans-Atlantic crossing, as I have no experience of such things. Thats mighty humble coming from a yachtmaster wanna be. Humility is an important characteristic in a Yachtmaster! Maybe you should do the course?? Now tell us how your going to be in the blind with no external imput and navigate O yachtmaster. Tsk, tsk. You're beginning to twist my words. Regards Donal -- |
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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... "Donal" wrote in message ... Joe, I was pointing out that sailors have been sailing with very little external input for a very long time. It is possible to sail with a fair degree of accuracy without much in the way of inputs. Little over a generation ago, many people would cross the channel (60 - 70 miles) with no instruments at all, apart from a rudimentary compass. I've been wait for you to describe what you meant by "no external inputs." Clearly, if you had no inputs, (and no inertial guidance system) it would be difficulty indeed to deduce where you were. And if all you meant was no GPS, then the discussion is almost as meaningless. But you claim in your previous post 1 mile accuracy for a 70 mile trip, crossing a channel the has (I think) a current of several knots. Is this really feasible? This implies a distance accuracy of about 1.5 %, which thus implies a speed accuracy of about 0.1 knots. I doubt there's anyone here that would claim to be able to "eyeball" a boat's speed with anywhere near this accuracy. I'm not sure I could reliably calibrate my log this well, and I certainly wouldn't trust it a day later. And the course accuracy? That's better than 1 degree. Again, I know I can't hold a course that well over time, but I would also argue that most compasses aren't that accurate to start with. In fact, there are some locations where the variation isn't that stable either. And can anyone give the leeway figures for their boat that accurately? If the wind is variable can you integrate the net affects over time? And how accurate does one know the current? Even if you adjust for the state of the tide and the phase of the moon, can you predict the current to 0.1 knot? Can one argue that many errors are possible but they tend to cancel out? Nope, it doesn't work that way; although there will likely be some canceling. No, I can't buy your claim of 1 mile accuracy in a 70 mile trip, with only a compass; I doubt you ever did it, and you certainly couldn't do it reliably. Its certainly true that there were many, many coastal passages 100 years ago, and I'm not going to claim that the accident rate was infinitely higher back then. (It was, but that's not important.) But they did have other tools that we tend to forget about: Lighthouses, fog horn, lead lines etc. They weren't quite as blind as you're making them out to be. BTW, I have done the experiment of sailing "blind" a number of times. I served as a guide for a blind sailor a number of times, so I tried it out to see what it was like. I refined it into a "parlor trick" for my students, where I would lie in the bottom of the boat while they sailed about a mile around the river basin. I could tell them where we were to within a 100 yards or so. The was that because I had sailed this one square mile almost exclusively for 15 years, I could locate myself any time by a number of cues, such as the traffic noise from shore, or the wind patterns from buildings, or the different sounds of the boats from different clubs. Like I said, a parlor trick. But someone who crossed the Channel daily all their life would have the same ability. Good questions, and I admit that I cannot give precise technical explanations for the accuracy. I will try to give as honest an answer as I can. When I did the Yachtmaster Shorebased course(a classroom course), the instructor told us that there "should be only one navigator" on any trip. On the first Channel trip that I did I was surprised at the accuracy. My second trip was in a charter boat. One of us was a RYA (coastal skipper) instructor. He was a bit of a "know it all". On our return trip, a 23 hour crossing from Guernsy to Salcombe, he woke up, looked at the Decca, and ordered a 15 degree course change. I asked if he wanted to take over the navigation ("there should be only one navigator"). He declined. He made me nervous enough to advise a 5 degree alteration to our course. After all he *was* an instructor. We hit land 5 miles **downtide** of our destination, and had 3 dreadful hours of sailing into wind and tide. That night, I decided that I would trust my own abilities in future. I'm not a great sailor, but I *am* good at maths. Where I cross the channel, the distance is about 60-70 miles. In fact, the trip to Cherebourg is 74 miles, but I have to go to Bembridge Ledge buoy first. From there, it it is 64 miles. The trip time is about 12-14 hours. This fact has an impact on the navigation. I tend to have 6 hours of ebb, and 6 hours of flood. Thus, the tide will tend to push me as far one way, as it will the other. Many people will check their position on the GPS when they are half way across. If they are off course, then they assume that they were steering the wrong course. I don't do this because it is more likely that the tidal stream was not as predicted. If it came in faster than predicted, --- then it will go out faster than predicted. People (like Joe), who react tend ti over-correct. Regards Donal -- |
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"Joe" wrote in message om... No you said " Blacked out porthole with no external imput" I agree it can be done very well with little imput. At last!!! I assume that the arguement is over?? Regards Donal -- |
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