Rules Question
 

What sort of vessel must operate with
an all around flashing red light?

What right of way rights does it have?

Bart Senior

Rules Question
 

A lightship?

Or how about an aircraft carrier, or ships that receive helicopters?

And of course, under the new rules, a WIG taking off or landing.

"N1EE" wrote in message
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What sort of vessel must operate with
an all around flashing red light?

What right of way rights does it have?

Bart Senior

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On 1 Jan 2004 18:46:54 -0800, (N1EE) wrote:

What sort of vessel must operate with
an all around flashing red light?

What right of way rights does it have?

Bart Senior

According to my copy of the regs, there's no provision for a flashing red.
The only listed flashing is:
submarine: 1 sec flashing yellow for 3 secs, then 3 secs off
hovercraft, non-displacement mode: flashing yellow
police, customs, and USCG: blue flashing

Not sure what the regs say about a radio tower under tow though..:)
Norm

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A vessel with a really high mast. Flashing red light is to ward off aircraft.
You see mega yachts with flashing red strobes in the BVIs all the time. Next
question.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

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You need a new copy of the rules.
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/navrules.htm

Actually, I don't think they're bothering to print the latest version, but
here's a list of the changes:
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navru...vrules2003.htm



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On 1 Jan 2004 18:46:54 -0800, (N1EE) wrote:

What sort of vessel must operate with
an all around flashing red light?

What right of way rights does it have?

Bart Senior

According to my copy of the regs, there's no provision for a flashing red.
The only listed flashing is:
submarine: 1 sec flashing yellow for 3 secs, then 3 secs off
hovercraft, non-displacement mode: flashing yellow
police, customs, and USCG: blue flashing

Not sure what the regs say about a radio tower under tow though..:)
Norm

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Jeff Morris wrote:
A lightship?

Not that I know of.

Or how about an aircraft carrier, or ships that receive helicopters?

And of course, under the new rules, a WIG taking off or landing.

AND while flying close to the surface ... i.e., when operating as a WIG

"N1EE" wrote in message
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What sort of vessel must operate with
an all around flashing red light?

What right of way rights does it have?

When taking off and landing, and flying near the surface, shall stay
well clear and at all times not impede other traffic.

In a sense, helps define the "impede" ruling.

Bart Senior


otn

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The correct answer is indeed a WIG or
"wing in ground" effect aircraft.
1 point to Jeff for the first part of
the question.

So does this mean Commorants need to
display flashing red lights?

http://www.mbr-pwrc.usgs.gov/id/framlst/i1200id.html

The other answers--lightship, etc, as far
as I know are not correct, but may be using
this sort of display in practice.

Not that you are likely to see WIG flying
around soon. Also, part 2 of the question
logically follows, the WIG craft must stay
the heck away from other vessels who could
not avoid a WIG if they wanted to.

The main point I wanted to make was there
are new rules, and the rules have not been
updated except as addendums.

Thanks Jeff for posting the link to these.

If we want to carry on the discussion.

What are the other new changes to the
Rules of the Road?

Bart

"Jeff Morris" wrote

A lightship?

Or how about an aircraft carrier, or ships that receive helicopters?

And of course, under the new rules, a WIG taking off or landing.

"N1EE" wrote in message
om...
What sort of vessel must operate with
an all around flashing red light?

What right of way rights does it have?

Bart Senior

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Rules Question
 

I've often seen "solid" red all-around lights
used by larger yachts with very tall masts while
at anchor in the BVI. Are you sure you have seen
flashing red down there or could they have been
solid red?

It is a smart idea to display a light on a tall
mast. Any helicopter would appreciate it also.
However, flashing red could be mistaken for a
buoy possibly. I would vote for flashing amber.

The rules need to allow some flexibility for yacht
owners to display strobes. Strobes use very little
power, are brighter than solid lights, and catch
the eye quickly.

I've been thinking about using Morse code to display
my Ham call sign as a signal at the top of my mast.
For example, using intevals longer than typically
found on Aids to Navigation--say every 30-60 seconds
when near shore, and perhaps more frequently offshore.

A strobe makes sense while sailing on the ocean
too, since it could not be an "Aid to Navigation" if
spotted in mid-ocean. This would make vessels easier
to spot and help prevent collisions. I've seen enough
close passings to rate collisions my number one fear
on the ocean.

One other thing to consider, is whether a strobe might
hinder night vision. Certainly, for solo sailors a strobe
could be turned on when below decks. I wonder what effect
a strobe at the top of a mast would have on a sailor in
a cockpit. Perhaps the right sort of shielding could
mast the light from direct vision on deck.

Bart Senior

(SAIL LOCO) wrote

A vessel with a really high mast. Flashing red light is to ward off aircraft.
You see mega yachts with flashing red strobes in the BVIs all the time. Next
question.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

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"N1EE" wrote in message
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The other answers--lightship, etc, as far
as I know are not correct, but may be using
this sort of display in practice.

The lightship answer was perhaps a bit obscure, since there are very few, if
any, still in service.

Notices to Mariners contain the following:

1949 - New York Harbor, South Channel
NM Oct 8 - "About Jan 1, 1950 Sandy Hook Experimental Lightship EXP will be
established 5850 yards, 94 degrees 30 minutes from Sandy Hook Light - red hull,
EXE in white on sides, white superstructure, buff mast and gallery. Flashing red
light every 6 seconds (1 second flash), 2000cp light at 40 feet visible 12
miles; electric chime diaphragm horn, 1 blast every 10 seconds (two second
blast), Class B radiobeacon, range 10 miles, 298kc, (._.. ), 60 seconds on, 120
seconds off during 1st and 4th ten minute period of each hour in clear weather;
continuous use in fog or low visibility. Note - lightship is unmanned and
controlled from ashore. Position: 40 27.5 - 73 56.4." (this would place it about
1.3 mi - 315 degrees from Scotland Lightship)

1950 - New York Harbor, South Channel
NM Jan 7 - "Establishment of Sandy Hook Experimental Lightship has been
postponed indefinitely."
(No further reference found)


Also, I believe a flashing red is used to signal that planes or helicopters may
not land.

Since a flashing red is also used to signal that a lock may not be entered, I
wonder if its also used to wave off "landing ships," or whatever the modern
equivalent is called.





Not that you are likely to see WIG flying
around soon. Also, part 2 of the question
logically follows, the WIG craft must stay
the heck away from other vessels who could
not avoid a WIG if they wanted to.

The main point I wanted to make was there
are new rules, and the rules have not been
updated except as addendums.

Thanks Jeff for posting the link to these.

If we want to carry on the discussion.

What are the other new changes to the
Rules of the Road?

Bart

"Jeff Morris" wrote

A lightship?

Or how about an aircraft carrier, or ships that receive helicopters?

And of course, under the new rules, a WIG taking off or landing.

"N1EE" wrote in message
om...
What sort of vessel must operate with
an all around flashing red light?

What right of way rights does it have?

Bart Senior