http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031227/D7VMV0MG0.html

Canada is at fault for the case of BSE found in the
US recently that shut down most of the exports. The
only good news is that beef prices domestically should
be coming down soon as the surplus beef hits the super
markets.

Think I'll be eating more steak in the future. . .

S.Simon

Simple Simon wrote:

Think I'll be eating more steak in the future. . .

Your posts suggest you may have eaten a great deal of British beef in
the past.

Rick

On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 17:17:29 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote this crap:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031227/D7VMV0MG0.html

Canada is at fault for the case of BSE found in the
US recently that shut down most of the exports. The
only good news is that beef prices domestically should
be coming down soon as the surplus beef hits the super
markets.

Think I'll be eating more steak in the future. . .

S.Simon


If you buy t-bones, don't gnaw on the bones.




This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe

The prion that is assumed to be the cause
of BSE exists only in the bovine's brain and
spinal column or intestines if the animal has
just ingested contaminated food that contains
the prion. If this prion is, indeed, the cause
of the encephalitis then one would have to eat
raw brains, spinal columns or intestines in order
to be in danger of becoming a host to the prion.

I ain't THAT hungry, besides . . . I don't know
about you but I don't eat that crap - let alone
eat it raw. I eat all my beef well done - even
prime rib. If I want raw I'll stick to eating
oysters or pussy.

In your case, Horvath, I doubt even the
most hardy prion could survive a constant
blood/alcohol level well beyond legal limits
so you should enjoy eating whatever floats
your boat.

S.Simon

"Horvath" wrote in message ...
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 17:17:29 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote this crap:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031227/D7VMV0MG0.html

Canada is at fault for the case of BSE found in the
US recently that shut down most of the exports. The
only good news is that beef prices domestically should
be coming down soon as the surplus beef hits the super
markets.

Think I'll be eating more steak in the future. . .

S.Simon


If you buy t-bones, don't gnaw on the bones.




This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe

Simple Simon wrote:

The prion that is assumed to be the cause
of BSE exists only in the bovine's brain and
spinal column or intestines if the animal has
just ingested contaminated food that contains
the prion. If this prion is, indeed, the cause
of the encephalitis then one would have to eat
raw brains, spinal columns or intestines in order
to be in danger of becoming a host to the prion.


Jeez, boats aren't the only thing you know nothing about.


http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/...Background.pdf

Rick

"Rick" wrote in message ink.net...
Simple Simon wrote:

The prion that is assumed to be the cause
of BSE exists only in the bovine's brain and
spinal column or intestines if the animal has
just ingested contaminated food that contains
the prion. If this prion is, indeed, the cause
of the encephalitis then one would have to eat
raw brains, spinal columns or intestines in order
to be in danger of becoming a host to the prion.


Jeez, boats aren't the only thing you know nothing about.


http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/...Background.pdf



So, what did I write that contradicts the pdf document?

S.Simon

Simple Simon wrote:

So, what did I write that contradicts the pdf document?

Can't you get anyone to read it to you?

You wrote:

then one would have to eat raw brains,
spinal columns or intestines in order
to be in danger

The US FDA very clearly states the additional means of exposure and
their sources.

You also seem to be ignorant fo the fact that cooking has no effect
whatsoever on the prions.

I don't know about you but I don't eat that crap
let alone eat it raw. I eat all my beef well done

Is it a hobby of yours to post such ignorant crap? I didn't think ther
was anything that you knew less about than nautical matters but every
day you give us a glimpse of the depths of your ignorance.

Rick

Cow Parts Used in Candles, Soaps Recalled 1 hour, 37 minutes ago Add
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By RUKMINI CALLIMACHI, Associated Press Writer

PORTLAND, Ore. - Cow parts - including hooves, bones, fat and innards - are
used in everything from hand cream and antifreeze, to poultry feed and
gardening soils.


In the next tangled phase of the mad cow investigation, federal inspectors
are concentrating on byproducts from the tainted Holstein, which might have
gone to a half-dozen distributors in the Northwest, said Dalton Hobbs,
spokesman for the Oregon Department of Agriculture.


Now, it's the secondary parts, the raw material for soil, soaps, candles,
that are being recalled.


Los Angeles-based Baker Commodities, Inc., announced Friday it has
voluntarily withheld 800 tons of cow byproduct processed in its Seattle and
Tacoma, Wash., plants, said company spokesman Ray Kelly. The company, like
other "renderers," takes what is left of the cow after it is slaughtered and
boils it down into tallow, used for candles, lubricants and soaps, and bone
meal used in fertilizer and animal feed.


If the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (news - web sites) determines that
the material is tainted, the company's loss could total $200,000, Kelly
said.


"It's obviously a tragic thing for the whole beef industry, but it's
definitely a sizable hit for us," he said.


Darling International, Inc., the nation's largest independent rendering
operation in the U.S., has also been contacted by the FDA. But officials at
their Tacoma and Portland plants, as well as at their international
headquarters in Irving, Texas, declined to comment on how their operation
has been affected.


"Our first priority was to make sure it didn't go into the food supply,"
said Hobbs, reiterating that meat sent to two Oregon distributors was
recalled earlier in the week.


But tracing all of the sick cow's parts to their final destination,
including numerous possible incarnations in household products, has proved
challenging.


"It's like the old Upton Sinclair line - 'We use everything but the
squeal,'" Hobbs said. "We have nearly 100 percent utilization of the animal.
But when you have so many niche markets, it makes it incredibly challenging
to trace where this one cow may have gone."


Companies that use bone meal from cows to create fertilizers, a kind of soil
popular with rose growers, may find themselves under the spotlight. At the
height of Britain's mad cow epidemic in the 1990s, three victims of the
human form of mad cow were found to be gardeners.


In 1996, the Royal Horticultural Society of London released an advisory,
cautioning gardeners to wear face masks after it was reported that the dust
from the bone-meal soil could carry the mutated protein.


But Scientific American editor Philip Yam said there was no conclusive
evidence the gardeners died from inhaling soil containing the infected cow
tissue.


A far greater risk is the cow material - including roughage and offal - used
in animal feed, said Yam, whose book, "The Pathological Protein," is a
scientific account of the disease.


In 1997, the FDA banned cow feed that included cow byproducts, after
scientists concluded that the feed was the main transmitter of mad cow
disease. The disease, formally known as bovine spongiform encephalopathy, or
BSE (news - web sites), is found in a cow's nervous system.


Yam points out that while giving cow feed to cows was outlawed, feeding it
to poultry is still legal. Some farmers, he said, are still in the habit of
feeding their cows "chicken litter" - the remains of the poultry feed,
scooped off the ground, feathers and all.


"It's one of those loopholes," Yam said. "It sounds good in theory - don't
feed cow to cow, feed the remains to chickens. But in practice things
happen."

Okay Mr. Simple Simon...may I ask you how, this discourse on dead cows
related in any meaningful way to the fine subject of sailing? I know there
has been much finger pointing back and forth of how this is a problem from
Canada and I hear Canadian's pointing out that the rancher in Canada with a
BSE infected cow is an American and now no longer even in Canada. How does
all this relate to tightening a jibsheet and heading up to round a mark, or
dropping anchor in a secluded lagoon? I know that the joy of biting into a
juicy slab of dead-cow is great and similar to that felt with the heel of a
fine vessel in good wind (and I am suddenly reminded that it is just about
supper time...grrr...sorry, that was my stomach). Time to sail over to the
Steakpit for supper me thinks.

Ahoy there!

Glenn A. Heslop

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031227/D7VMV0MG0.html

Canada is at fault for the case of BSE found in the
US recently that shut down most of the exports. The
only good news is that beef prices domestically should
be coming down soon as the surplus beef hits the super
markets.

Think I'll be eating more steak in the future. . .

S.Simon

We should just eat the Canadians. That would solve the problem.
I like Canadian women a bit pink on the inside, hold the salt, I'll
supply the cucumber.

"Glenn A. Heslop" wrote in message
news:z5HLb.38650$ts4.32097@pd7tw3no...
Okay Mr. Simple Simon...may I ask you how, this discourse on dead cows
related in any meaningful way to the fine subject of sailing? I know
there
has been much finger pointing back and forth of how this is a problem from
Canada and I hear Canadian's pointing out that the rancher in Canada with
a
BSE infected cow is an American and now no longer even in Canada. How
does
all this relate to tightening a jibsheet and heading up to round a mark,
or
dropping anchor in a secluded lagoon? I know that the joy of biting into
a
juicy slab of dead-cow is great and similar to that felt with the heel of
a
fine vessel in good wind (and I am suddenly reminded that it is just about
supper time...grrr...sorry, that was my stomach). Time to sail over to
the
Steakpit for supper me thinks.

Ahoy there!

Glenn A. Heslop

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031227/D7VMV0MG0.html

Canada is at fault for the case of BSE found in the
US recently that shut down most of the exports. The
only good news is that beef prices domestically should
be coming down soon as the surplus beef hits the super
markets.

Think I'll be eating more steak in the future. . .

S.Simon