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Sail4Mail December 26th 03 03:19 PM

License: An answer to Kneel, a Challenge to Boobie
 
Kneel,

I really don’t remember what my scores where, it wasn’t very important to
me. I do remember I did rather well, was out of the exam room in short order,
and had no problems. I’m sure you got a higher score than I, perhaps higher
than many others. So what? It proves only that you had more idle time to
spend memorizing the Q&A’s. It says nothing about your practical knowledge
or real abilities. In fact getting a license is so easy that even that other
fool Boobie could get one! Why I think it would be an ideal challenge to
Boobie to show this newsgroup that even he can get a Master’s license! Now
Boobie, with that challenge, if you have any guts: Go out and get your license
too! BOOBIE, GO FOR IT !!

No, getting the license is not the objective. For people to have enough trust
to hire you so that you can use your ticket, that is the real objective. This
shows you have more than just the ability to read and memorize rules and books,
but the capacity to use what you have read, and then start to learn something.
Of course even more important, you have the know how to drive boats, all
different kinds of boats, in all different kinds of situations. It is not book
knowledge that makes you a "Master," rather it is SKILL !

PS: A "YACHTIE" is an amateur. Someone who mostly plays with boats, rather
than a professional who gained their expertise by making a living on the water.

CRW


Oingo Boingo December 26th 03 04:38 PM

License: An answer to Kneel, a Challenge to Boobie
 
Experience and knowledge mean the most, not passing some silly one time
test.

That's the problem with government licensing. It doesn't mean anything
except at one time you passed some bare minimal standards.

The biggest problem is granting a license to the casual amateur. They are
not experienced, or will ever be, in the day in to day out operations in a
given field or profession. They are also the ones who consume the most
resources by causing trouble from their lack of experience.

A better standard and requirement for a license is to show that you actually
earn your living from it. If you don't earn your living from it, you don't
need it and are very likely to cause some problem or mishap down the road.

They should also get rid of some of those silly limitations placed on drug
use and conviction. Just because someone get arrested in 1968 with a pot
seed on the floor of his car shouldn't bar him from being a professional
master.

OB


"Sail4Mail" wrote in message
...
Kneel,

I really don't remember what my scores where, it wasn't very important to
me. I do remember I did rather well, was out of the exam room in short

order,
and had no problems. I'm sure you got a higher score than I, perhaps

higher
than many others. So what? It proves only that you had more idle time to
spend memorizing the Q&A's. It says nothing about your practical

knowledge
or real abilities. In fact getting a license is so easy that even that

other
fool Boobie could get one! Why I think it would be an ideal challenge to
Boobie to show this newsgroup that even he can get a Master's license!

Now
Boobie, with that challenge, if you have any guts: Go out and get your

license
too! BOOBIE, GO FOR IT !!

No, getting the license is not the objective. For people to have enough

trust
to hire you so that you can use your ticket, that is the real objective.

This
shows you have more than just the ability to read and memorize rules and

books,
but the capacity to use what you have read, and then start to learn

something.
Of course even more important, you have the know how to drive boats, all
different kinds of boats, in all different kinds of situations. It is not

book
knowledge that makes you a "Master," rather it is SKILL !

PS: A "YACHTIE" is an amateur. Someone who mostly plays with boats,

rather
than a professional who gained their expertise by making a living on the

water.

CRW




Anonymous Sender December 26th 03 05:58 PM

License: An answer to Kneel, a Challenge to Boobie
 
They should also get rid of some of those silly limitations placed on
drug
use and conviction. Just because someone get arrested in 1968 with a

pot
seed on the floor of his car shouldn't bar him from being a

professional
master.

BO


Illegal marijuana use is a sign of trouble if you ask me, a clear
indication of poor self discipline and inadequate character for a
ship's master. People who respect rules leave it alone because it's
illegal and not because it's any worse than booze. To have it in a car
is very troubling. Professional Masters need more respect for the law
than some 1960s pothead still making excuses for his law-breaking ways
all these years later. A very wise restriction.

Oingo Boingo December 26th 03 10:01 PM

License: An answer to Kneel, a Challenge to Boobie
 
I'm talking about a pot seed on the car floor.



"Anonymous Sender" wrote in message
acolo.com...
They should also get rid of some of those silly limitations placed on

drug
use and conviction. Just because someone get arrested in 1968 with a

pot
seed on the floor of his car shouldn't bar him from being a

professional
master.

BO


Illegal marijuana use is a sign of trouble if you ask me, a clear
indication of poor self discipline and inadequate character for a
ship's master. People who respect rules leave it alone because it's
illegal and not because it's any worse than booze. To have it in a car
is very troubling. Professional Masters need more respect for the law
than some 1960s pothead still making excuses for his law-breaking ways
all these years later. A very wise restriction.




Oingo Boingo December 26th 03 10:05 PM

License: An answer to Kneel, a Challenge to Boobie
 
BTW did you vote for Bush?

Why is drug use a no-no for Popeye but an ok for the "Leader of the Free
World" whose finger rests on the nuclear trigger?

" Illegal marijuana or cocaine use is a sign of trouble if you ask me, a
clear indication of poor self discipline and inadequate character for the US
Presidency.
People who respect rules leave it alone because it's
illegal and not because it's any worse than booze. To have it in a car is
very troubling as is drunk driving. Presidents need more respect for the law
than some 1960s pothead or cocaine user still making excuses for his
law-breaking ways all these years later. A very wise restriction."

I must agree!



Anonymous Sender December 26th 03 10:54 PM

License: An answer to Kneel, a Challenge to Boobie
 
BTW did you vote for Bush?

I would have, but I misplaced the absentee ballot and didn't find it
(slipped under the VCR) until after the election was over.

Why is drug use a no-no for Popeye but an ok for the "Leader of the

Free
World" whose finger rests on the nuclear trigger?


Bush got caught driving drunk and probably did it a hundred times
without getting caught, but Gore was insane. If that's the choice, you
got to go with the drunk. Drunks sober up, but insane is 24 hours a day.

Scott Vernon December 27th 03 12:00 AM

License: An answer to Kneel, a Challenge to Boobie
 
nobody asked you.


"Anonymouse Sender" wrote

Illegal marijuana use is a sign of trouble if you ask me,



Anonymous Sender December 27th 03 01:13 AM

License: An answer to Kneel, a Challenge to Boobie
 
nobody asked you.


Surly ill-tempered behavior for no reason can be a trouble sign for
methamphetamine abuse, cocaine abuse, or the depression caused by
closeted homosexuality or impotence. Which one is your problem? From
reading some of your other posts, I'd guess all four.

Rick December 27th 03 04:13 AM

License: An answer to Kneel, a Challenge to Boobie
 
Oingo Boingo wrote:

They should also get rid of some of those silly limitations placed on drug
use and conviction. Just because someone get arrested in 1968 with a pot
seed on the floor of his car shouldn't bar him from being a professional
master.


It doesn't.

Failure to disclose the conviction on the application will.

Rick


Captain Kev December 31st 03 04:22 AM

License: An answer to Kneel, a Challenge to Boobie
 
Well Played! Making a living on the water can suck the big wazoo sometimes
and the time from home can be tough and you never look at navigation the
same way you once did when sailing or boating was just a passion. I started
out working a bait boat out of Miami and then went Coast Guard and now run
commercial dive boats in the GOM. I have a 34 foot sloop and it takes me a
few days on a trip to get used to the impulsive, short-sighted lack of
rudimental knowledge and rambunctious way the private boating community
makes their way. I got in on this in the middle of the conversation, but I
would like to see anybody who owns a boat have to sit for the uninspected
operator's ticket (US) it has an inferred sailing endorsement --- maybe then
all this who is the true Captain would go away -- and I believe a lot of the
really dumb Captains would go away too! PeAcE.



"Sail4Mail" wrote in message
...
Kneel,

I really don't remember what my scores where, it wasn't very important to
me. I do remember I did rather well, was out of the exam room in short

order,
and had no problems. I'm sure you got a higher score than I, perhaps

higher
than many others. So what? It proves only that you had more idle time to
spend memorizing the Q&A's. It says nothing about your practical

knowledge
or real abilities. In fact getting a license is so easy that even that

other
fool Boobie could get one! Why I think it would be an ideal challenge to
Boobie to show this newsgroup that even he can get a Master's license!

Now
Boobie, with that challenge, if you have any guts: Go out and get your

license
too! BOOBIE, GO FOR IT !!

No, getting the license is not the objective. For people to have enough

trust
to hire you so that you can use your ticket, that is the real objective.

This
shows you have more than just the ability to read and memorize rules and

books,
but the capacity to use what you have read, and then start to learn

something.
Of course even more important, you have the know how to drive boats, all
different kinds of boats, in all different kinds of situations. It is not

book
knowledge that makes you a "Master," rather it is SKILL !

PS: A "YACHTIE" is an amateur. Someone who mostly plays with boats,

rather
than a professional who gained their expertise by making a living on the

water.

CRW





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