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Stupid things said by liberals
Stupid Things Said By Liberals
December 15, 2003 Here's a list of some of the many dumb things libs said about Saddam's captu Robin Wright, Los Angeles Times: This isn't going to transform the situation. Joe Klein, TIME: Another terrorist attack on America would completely change this dynamic. Dennis Kucinich: No big deal, we've got to end the occupation of Iraq. Campbell Brown, NBC: This should help President Bush. MSNBC: The insurgents are too well organized to quit. Paula Zahn and Aaron Brown, CNN: Bush had better not gloat. Dan Rather, CBS (Paraphrased as he's impossible to understand): Think how poor Saddam must feel after being dragged from his hole! CNN: Iraqis don't care. There are gas lines and not enough electricity. Besides, why'd it take so long to get this one bearded guy who's not running anything? John F-ing Kerry: It's a good day for Iraqis but Americans are still going to die. Yasser Arafat, taking a page away from Tom Daschle: I am saddened. NPR: Repeated the no-gas, no-water, no-oil misery line. Best - Evan Thomas, Newsweek: In a land where pride and dignity mean everything, the images of Saddam are clearly intended to shame. This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe |
Stupid things said by liberals
Stupid things said by Horass... sorry, but there are
just too many to list. "Horvath" wrote in message ... Stupid Things Said By Liberals December 15, 2003 Here's a list of some of the many dumb things libs said about Saddam's captu Robin Wright, Los Angeles Times: This isn't going to transform the situation. Joe Klein, TIME: Another terrorist attack on America would completely change this dynamic. Dennis Kucinich: No big deal, we've got to end the occupation of Iraq. Campbell Brown, NBC: This should help President Bush. MSNBC: The insurgents are too well organized to quit. Paula Zahn and Aaron Brown, CNN: Bush had better not gloat. Dan Rather, CBS (Paraphrased as he's impossible to understand): Think how poor Saddam must feel after being dragged from his hole! CNN: Iraqis don't care. There are gas lines and not enough electricity. Besides, why'd it take so long to get this one bearded guy who's not running anything? John F-ing Kerry: It's a good day for Iraqis but Americans are still going to die. Yasser Arafat, taking a page away from Tom Daschle: I am saddened. NPR: Repeated the no-gas, no-water, no-oil misery line. Best - Evan Thomas, Newsweek: In a land where pride and dignity mean everything, the images of Saddam are clearly intended to shame. This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe |
Stupid things said by liberals
The dumbest thing I ever heard from a liberal was one who called himself a
"Compassionate Conservative" and he went on to create the biggest growth in government in 60 years, the largest entitlement package in history, the quickest enaction of state police powers, signed free speech limiting legislation that he himself was unconstitutional, signed economy destroying tarriff legislation and leaves the borders wide open for illegal immigrants. If it looks like a Democrat, smells like a Democrat and quacks like a Democrat - it's a Democrat! Vote Gridlock! Save America! "Horvath" wrote in message ... Stupid Things Said By Liberals December 15, 2003 Here's a list of some of the many dumb things libs said about Saddam's captu Robin Wright, Los Angeles Times: This isn't going to transform the situation. Joe Klein, TIME: Another terrorist attack on America would completely change this dynamic. Dennis Kucinich: No big deal, we've got to end the occupation of Iraq. Campbell Brown, NBC: This should help President Bush. MSNBC: The insurgents are too well organized to quit. Paula Zahn and Aaron Brown, CNN: Bush had better not gloat. Dan Rather, CBS (Paraphrased as he's impossible to understand): Think how poor Saddam must feel after being dragged from his hole! CNN: Iraqis don't care. There are gas lines and not enough electricity. Besides, why'd it take so long to get this one bearded guy who's not running anything? John F-ing Kerry: It's a good day for Iraqis but Americans are still going to die. Yasser Arafat, taking a page away from Tom Daschle: I am saddened. NPR: Repeated the no-gas, no-water, no-oil misery line. Best - Evan Thomas, Newsweek: In a land where pride and dignity mean everything, the images of Saddam are clearly intended to shame. This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe |
Stupid things said by liberals
Where the heck is Barry Goldwater when we need him!
"Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... The dumbest thing I ever heard from a liberal was one who called himself a "Compassionate Conservative" and he went on to create the biggest growth in government in 60 years, the largest entitlement package in history, the quickest enaction of state police powers, signed free speech limiting legislation that he himself was unconstitutional, signed economy destroying tarriff legislation and leaves the borders wide open for illegal immigrants. If it looks like a Democrat, smells like a Democrat and quacks like a Democrat - it's a Democrat! Vote Gridlock! Save America! "Horvath" wrote in message ... Stupid Things Said By Liberals December 15, 2003 Here's a list of some of the many dumb things libs said about Saddam's captu Robin Wright, Los Angeles Times: This isn't going to transform the situation. Joe Klein, TIME: Another terrorist attack on America would completely change this dynamic. Dennis Kucinich: No big deal, we've got to end the occupation of Iraq. Campbell Brown, NBC: This should help President Bush. MSNBC: The insurgents are too well organized to quit. Paula Zahn and Aaron Brown, CNN: Bush had better not gloat. Dan Rather, CBS (Paraphrased as he's impossible to understand): Think how poor Saddam must feel after being dragged from his hole! CNN: Iraqis don't care. There are gas lines and not enough electricity. Besides, why'd it take so long to get this one bearded guy who's not running anything? John F-ing Kerry: It's a good day for Iraqis but Americans are still going to die. Yasser Arafat, taking a page away from Tom Daschle: I am saddened. NPR: Repeated the no-gas, no-water, no-oil misery line. Best - Evan Thomas, Newsweek: In a land where pride and dignity mean everything, the images of Saddam are clearly intended to shame. This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe |
Stupid things said by liberals
Well said!!!!
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Where the heck is Barry Goldwater when we need him! "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... The dumbest thing I ever heard from a liberal was one who called himself a "Compassionate Conservative" and he went on to create the biggest growth in government in 60 years, the largest entitlement package in history, the quickest enaction of state police powers, signed free speech limiting legislation that he himself was unconstitutional, signed economy destroying tarriff legislation and leaves the borders wide open for illegal immigrants. If it looks like a Democrat, smells like a Democrat and quacks like a Democrat - it's a Democrat! Vote Gridlock! Save America! "Horvath" wrote in message ... Stupid Things Said By Liberals December 15, 2003 Here's a list of some of the many dumb things libs said about Saddam's captu Robin Wright, Los Angeles Times: This isn't going to transform the situation. Joe Klein, TIME: Another terrorist attack on America would completely change this dynamic. Dennis Kucinich: No big deal, we've got to end the occupation of Iraq. Campbell Brown, NBC: This should help President Bush. MSNBC: The insurgents are too well organized to quit. Paula Zahn and Aaron Brown, CNN: Bush had better not gloat. Dan Rather, CBS (Paraphrased as he's impossible to understand): Think how poor Saddam must feel after being dragged from his hole! CNN: Iraqis don't care. There are gas lines and not enough electricity. Besides, why'd it take so long to get this one bearded guy who's not running anything? John F-ing Kerry: It's a good day for Iraqis but Americans are still going to die. Yasser Arafat, taking a page away from Tom Daschle: I am saddened. NPR: Repeated the no-gas, no-water, no-oil misery line. Best - Evan Thomas, Newsweek: In a land where pride and dignity mean everything, the images of Saddam are clearly intended to shame. This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe |
Stupid things said by liberals
Barry Goldwater = John Dean. Both of them represent
the extreme ends of the political spectrum. While Goldwater was at the conservative end, Dean is at the radical liberal end of the spectrum. Both are the same in that they are(were) unelectable. Milos, one of these days you are going to wake up and smell the roses that since conservatism is about as popular as liberalism the only viable solution is something in the middle. George Bush is in the middle. He's conservative when it comes to the government's primary duty to protect the country and he's moderate to liberal when it comes to giving the populace what they want - handouts from the government at the expense of the military/industrial complex. Mr. Bush lives in the real world. I wish you would join us there. S.Simon "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Well said!!!! "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Where the heck is Barry Goldwater when we need him! "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... The dumbest thing I ever heard from a liberal was one who called himself a "Compassionate Conservative" and he went on to create the biggest growth in government in 60 years, the largest entitlement package in history, the quickest enaction of state police powers, signed free speech limiting legislation that he himself was unconstitutional, signed economy destroying tarriff legislation and leaves the borders wide open for illegal immigrants. If it looks like a Democrat, smells like a Democrat and quacks like a Democrat - it's a Democrat! Vote Gridlock! Save America! "Horvath" wrote in message ... Stupid Things Said By Liberals December 15, 2003 Here's a list of some of the many dumb things libs said about Saddam's captu Robin Wright, Los Angeles Times: This isn't going to transform the situation. Joe Klein, TIME: Another terrorist attack on America would completely change this dynamic. Dennis Kucinich: No big deal, we've got to end the occupation of Iraq. Campbell Brown, NBC: This should help President Bush. MSNBC: The insurgents are too well organized to quit. Paula Zahn and Aaron Brown, CNN: Bush had better not gloat. Dan Rather, CBS (Paraphrased as he's impossible to understand): Think how poor Saddam must feel after being dragged from his hole! CNN: Iraqis don't care. There are gas lines and not enough electricity. Besides, why'd it take so long to get this one bearded guy who's not running anything? John F-ing Kerry: It's a good day for Iraqis but Americans are still going to die. Yasser Arafat, taking a page away from Tom Daschle: I am saddened. NPR: Repeated the no-gas, no-water, no-oil misery line. Best - Evan Thomas, Newsweek: In a land where pride and dignity mean everything, the images of Saddam are clearly intended to shame. This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe |
Stupid things said by liberals
Simple Simon:
You have taken too many government pills. When the effects wear off hopefully you will see as clearly as I. Government handouts breed dependence. Dependence breds sloth. Senator Goldwater is not the same as or equivalent to John Dean. Dean has no principals, no moral compass. He simply opposes Bush and Republicans in general. Senator Goldwater is known for his principals and moral compass. Goldwater stood for individual liberty and the Constitution. He is THE Conservative by which all others are judged. I do not care about the popularity of Conservatism, I care about what is right. Right by my own standards, the standards of an independent, self reliant man. If one accepts popularity as the metric for political or moral direction, in the right time and place, one would find the soles of his feet sore from excessive goose stepping. Senator Goldwater was merely the torch bearer, not the torch. The torch has been passed on and again it will burn bright. Remember, circumstance does not make the man, it reveals him. "The government that has the power to grant you everything also has the power to take it all away" Barry Goldwater "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Barry Goldwater = John Dean. Both of them represent the extreme ends of the political spectrum. While Goldwater was at the conservative end, Dean is at the radical liberal end of the spectrum. Both are the same in that they are(were) unelectable. Milos, one of these days you are going to wake up and smell the roses that since conservatism is about as popular as liberalism the only viable solution is something in the middle. George Bush is in the middle. He's conservative when it comes to the government's primary duty to protect the country and he's moderate to liberal when it comes to giving the populace what they want - handouts from the government at the expense of the military/industrial complex. Mr. Bush lives in the real world. I wish you would join us there. S.Simon "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Well said!!!! "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Where the heck is Barry Goldwater when we need him! "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... The dumbest thing I ever heard from a liberal was one who called himself a "Compassionate Conservative" and he went on to create the biggest growth in government in 60 years, the largest entitlement package in history, the quickest enaction of state police powers, signed free speech limiting legislation that he himself was unconstitutional, signed economy destroying tarriff legislation and leaves the borders wide open for illegal immigrants. If it looks like a Democrat, smells like a Democrat and quacks like a Democrat - it's a Democrat! Vote Gridlock! Save America! "Horvath" wrote in message ... Stupid Things Said By Liberals December 15, 2003 Here's a list of some of the many dumb things libs said about Saddam's captu Robin Wright, Los Angeles Times: This isn't going to transform the situation. Joe Klein, TIME: Another terrorist attack on America would completely change this dynamic. Dennis Kucinich: No big deal, we've got to end the occupation of Iraq. Campbell Brown, NBC: This should help President Bush. MSNBC: The insurgents are too well organized to quit. Paula Zahn and Aaron Brown, CNN: Bush had better not gloat. Dan Rather, CBS (Paraphrased as he's impossible to understand): Think how poor Saddam must feel after being dragged from his hole! CNN: Iraqis don't care. There are gas lines and not enough electricity. Besides, why'd it take so long to get this one bearded guy who's not running anything? John F-ing Kerry: It's a good day for Iraqis but Americans are still going to die. Yasser Arafat, taking a page away from Tom Daschle: I am saddened. NPR: Repeated the no-gas, no-water, no-oil misery line. Best - Evan Thomas, Newsweek: In a land where pride and dignity mean everything, the images of Saddam are clearly intended to shame. This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe |
Stupid things said by liberals
Milos,
You need to practice what you preach in order to lend veracity to your claims. It is you who live in a situation where you depend upon the government for your very existence. You need roads, electricity, grocery stores and telephone connections. You are trapped and living a life the government controls. I can understand why you yearn for what Barry claims to have stood for but really didn't as he was perhaps more dependent upon government than you are. Myself, on the other hand, being a realist have structured my life in such a way that I can reap government benefits as long as they are available but can escape from them should they involve the loss of my freedom. I can simply sail away and avail myself of my offshore bank accounts while your like continues to proclaim the virtues of conservative values while living a life that does not reflect your beliefs. That's the trouble with indoctrination into any system of beliefs. It requires a blind adherence by the believer and said adherence causes the believer's enslavement. S.Simon - sucks on any teat that's available but has other teats lined up when old reliable dries up. "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Simple Simon: You have taken too many government pills. When the effects wear off hopefully you will see as clearly as I. Government handouts breed dependence. Dependence breds sloth. Senator Goldwater is not the same as or equivalent to John Dean. Dean has no principals, no moral compass. He simply opposes Bush and Republicans in general. Senator Goldwater is known for his principals and moral compass. Goldwater stood for individual liberty and the Constitution. He is THE Conservative by which all others are judged. I do not care about the popularity of Conservatism, I care about what is right. Right by my own standards, the standards of an independent, self reliant man. If one accepts popularity as the metric for political or moral direction, in the right time and place, one would find the soles of his feet sore from excessive goose stepping. Senator Goldwater was merely the torch bearer, not the torch. The torch has been passed on and again it will burn bright. Remember, circumstance does not make the man, it reveals him. "The government that has the power to grant you everything also has the power to take it all away" Barry Goldwater "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Barry Goldwater = John Dean. Both of them represent the extreme ends of the political spectrum. While Goldwater was at the conservative end, Dean is at the radical liberal end of the spectrum. Both are the same in that they are(were) unelectable. Milos, one of these days you are going to wake up and smell the roses that since conservatism is about as popular as liberalism the only viable solution is something in the middle. George Bush is in the middle. He's conservative when it comes to the government's primary duty to protect the country and he's moderate to liberal when it comes to giving the populace what they want - handouts from the government at the expense of the military/industrial complex. Mr. Bush lives in the real world. I wish you would join us there. S.Simon "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Well said!!!! "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Where the heck is Barry Goldwater when we need him! "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... The dumbest thing I ever heard from a liberal was one who called himself a "Compassionate Conservative" and he went on to create the biggest growth in government in 60 years, the largest entitlement package in history, the quickest enaction of state police powers, signed free speech limiting legislation that he himself was unconstitutional, signed economy destroying tarriff legislation and leaves the borders wide open for illegal immigrants. If it looks like a Democrat, smells like a Democrat and quacks like a Democrat - it's a Democrat! Vote Gridlock! Save America! "Horvath" wrote in message ... Stupid Things Said By Liberals December 15, 2003 Here's a list of some of the many dumb things libs said about Saddam's captu Robin Wright, Los Angeles Times: This isn't going to transform the situation. Joe Klein, TIME: Another terrorist attack on America would completely change this dynamic. Dennis Kucinich: No big deal, we've got to end the occupation of Iraq. Campbell Brown, NBC: This should help President Bush. MSNBC: The insurgents are too well organized to quit. Paula Zahn and Aaron Brown, CNN: Bush had better not gloat. Dan Rather, CBS (Paraphrased as he's impossible to understand): Think how poor Saddam must feel after being dragged from his hole! CNN: Iraqis don't care. There are gas lines and not enough electricity. Besides, why'd it take so long to get this one bearded guy who's not running anything? John F-ing Kerry: It's a good day for Iraqis but Americans are still going to die. Yasser Arafat, taking a page away from Tom Daschle: I am saddened. NPR: Repeated the no-gas, no-water, no-oil misery line. Best - Evan Thomas, Newsweek: In a land where pride and dignity mean everything, the images of Saddam are clearly intended to shame. This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe |
Stupid things said by liberals
I do rely on government for the things it should provide - courts, a common
defense, police and all the other things necessary to protect my individual rights. The US Constitution does a pretty good job of laying it all out. What you desire and what GW Bush does is violate the Constitution, the law of the land. What good is worrying about the Colregs when the fundamental law of the country is ignored and trampled upon? What good are laws if they are selectively enforced and, for the most part, ignored? I do live in the real world and know what the future holds as a consequence of ever growing government and neglect of the law. "Compromise is the red carpet for tyranny" Ayn Rand "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Milos, You need to practice what you preach in order to lend veracity to your claims. It is you who live in a situation where you depend upon the government for your very existence. You need roads, electricity, grocery stores and telephone connections. You are trapped and living a life the government controls. I can understand why you yearn for what Barry claims to have stood for but really didn't as he was perhaps more dependent upon government than you are. Myself, on the other hand, being a realist have structured my life in such a way that I can reap government benefits as long as they are available but can escape from them should they involve the loss of my freedom. I can simply sail away and avail myself of my offshore bank accounts while your like continues to proclaim the virtues of conservative values while living a life that does not reflect your beliefs. That's the trouble with indoctrination into any system of beliefs. It requires a blind adherence by the believer and said adherence causes the believer's enslavement. S.Simon - sucks on any teat that's available but has other teats lined up when old reliable dries up. "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Simple Simon: You have taken too many government pills. When the effects wear off hopefully you will see as clearly as I. Government handouts breed dependence. Dependence breds sloth. Senator Goldwater is not the same as or equivalent to John Dean. Dean has no principals, no moral compass. He simply opposes Bush and Republicans in general. Senator Goldwater is known for his principals and moral compass. Goldwater stood for individual liberty and the Constitution. He is THE Conservative by which all others are judged. I do not care about the popularity of Conservatism, I care about what is right. Right by my own standards, the standards of an independent, self reliant man. If one accepts popularity as the metric for political or moral direction, in the right time and place, one would find the soles of his feet sore from excessive goose stepping. Senator Goldwater was merely the torch bearer, not the torch. The torch has been passed on and again it will burn bright. Remember, circumstance does not make the man, it reveals him. "The government that has the power to grant you everything also has the power to take it all away" Barry Goldwater "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Barry Goldwater = John Dean. Both of them represent the extreme ends of the political spectrum. While Goldwater was at the conservative end, Dean is at the radical liberal end of the spectrum. Both are the same in that they are(were) unelectable. Milos, one of these days you are going to wake up and smell the roses that since conservatism is about as popular as liberalism the only viable solution is something in the middle. George Bush is in the middle. He's conservative when it comes to the government's primary duty to protect the country and he's moderate to liberal when it comes to giving the populace what they want - handouts from the government at the expense of the military/industrial complex. Mr. Bush lives in the real world. I wish you would join us there. S.Simon "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Well said!!!! "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Where the heck is Barry Goldwater when we need him! "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... The dumbest thing I ever heard from a liberal was one who called himself a "Compassionate Conservative" and he went on to create the biggest growth in government in 60 years, the largest entitlement package in history, the quickest enaction of state police powers, signed free speech limiting legislation that he himself was unconstitutional, signed economy destroying tarriff legislation and leaves the borders wide open for illegal immigrants. If it looks like a Democrat, smells like a Democrat and quacks like a Democrat - it's a Democrat! Vote Gridlock! Save America! "Horvath" wrote in message ... Stupid Things Said By Liberals December 15, 2003 Here's a list of some of the many dumb things libs said about Saddam's captu Robin Wright, Los Angeles Times: This isn't going to transform the situation. Joe Klein, TIME: Another terrorist attack on America would completely change this dynamic. Dennis Kucinich: No big deal, we've got to end the occupation of Iraq. Campbell Brown, NBC: This should help President Bush. MSNBC: The insurgents are too well organized to quit. Paula Zahn and Aaron Brown, CNN: Bush had better not gloat. Dan Rather, CBS (Paraphrased as he's impossible to understand): Think how poor Saddam must feel after being dragged from his hole! CNN: Iraqis don't care. There are gas lines and not enough electricity. Besides, why'd it take so long to get this one bearded guy who's not running anything? John F-ing Kerry: It's a good day for Iraqis but Americans are still going to die. Yasser Arafat, taking a page away from Tom Daschle: I am saddened. NPR: Repeated the no-gas, no-water, no-oil misery line. Best - Evan Thomas, Newsweek: In a land where pride and dignity mean everything, the images of Saddam are clearly intended to shame. This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe |
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Should we assume you are referring to *Howard* Dean rather than John
Dean, of Watergate fame? I doubt that Howard would want to be confused with one of Tricky Dick's cohorts. Just checking. On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:19:12 -0500, "Simple Simon" wrote: Barry Goldwater = John Dean. Both of them represent the extreme ends of the political spectrum. While Goldwater was at the conservative end, Dean is at the radical liberal end of the spectrum. Both are the same in that they are(were) unelectable. Milos, one of these days you are going to wake up and smell the roses that since conservatism is about as popular as liberalism the only viable solution is something in the middle. George Bush is in the middle. He's conservative when it comes to the government's primary duty to protect the country and he's moderate to liberal when it comes to giving the populace what they want - handouts from the government at the expense of the military/industrial complex. Mr. Bush lives in the real world. I wish you would join us there. S.Simon "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Well said!!!! "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Where the heck is Barry Goldwater when we need him! "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... The dumbest thing I ever heard from a liberal was one who called himself a "Compassionate Conservative" and he went on to create the biggest growth in government in 60 years, the largest entitlement package in history, the quickest enaction of state police powers, signed free speech limiting legislation that he himself was unconstitutional, signed economy destroying tarriff legislation and leaves the borders wide open for illegal immigrants. If it looks like a Democrat, smells like a Democrat and quacks like a Democrat - it's a Democrat! Vote Gridlock! Save America! "Horvath" wrote in message ... Stupid Things Said By Liberals December 15, 2003 Here's a list of some of the many dumb things libs said about Saddam's captu Robin Wright, Los Angeles Times: This isn't going to transform the situation. Joe Klein, TIME: Another terrorist attack on America would completely change this dynamic. Dennis Kucinich: No big deal, we've got to end the occupation of Iraq. Campbell Brown, NBC: This should help President Bush. MSNBC: The insurgents are too well organized to quit. Paula Zahn and Aaron Brown, CNN: Bush had better not gloat. Dan Rather, CBS (Paraphrased as he's impossible to understand): Think how poor Saddam must feel after being dragged from his hole! CNN: Iraqis don't care. There are gas lines and not enough electricity. Besides, why'd it take so long to get this one bearded guy who's not running anything? John F-ing Kerry: It's a good day for Iraqis but Americans are still going to die. Yasser Arafat, taking a page away from Tom Daschle: I am saddened. NPR: Repeated the no-gas, no-water, no-oil misery line. Best - Evan Thomas, Newsweek: In a land where pride and dignity mean everything, the images of Saddam are clearly intended to shame. This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe |
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Ayn Rand, Barry Goldwater, Ralph Nader, H. Perot,
etc. etc. - all the same. All talk a good game but none do anything but talk and hope to persuade others to do the work and make the sacrifice. The only true leader leads by example. President Bush leads by example. That's it in a nutshell. That's what people want. People don't want some pie-in-the-sky pipe dream of fanatics who don't even live their own lives the way they preach others should. How can you explain this? S.Simon "Uncle Albert" wrote in message ink.net... I do rely on government for the things it should provide - courts, a common defense, police and all the other things necessary to protect my individual rights. The US Constitution does a pretty good job of laying it all out. What you desire and what GW Bush does is violate the Constitution, the law of the land. What good is worrying about the Colregs when the fundamental law of the country is ignored and trampled upon? What good are laws if they are selectively enforced and, for the most part, ignored? I do live in the real world and know what the future holds as a consequence of ever growing government and neglect of the law. "Compromise is the red carpet for tyranny" Ayn Rand "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Milos, You need to practice what you preach in order to lend veracity to your claims. It is you who live in a situation where you depend upon the government for your very existence. You need roads, electricity, grocery stores and telephone connections. You are trapped and living a life the government controls. I can understand why you yearn for what Barry claims to have stood for but really didn't as he was perhaps more dependent upon government than you are. Myself, on the other hand, being a realist have structured my life in such a way that I can reap government benefits as long as they are available but can escape from them should they involve the loss of my freedom. I can simply sail away and avail myself of my offshore bank accounts while your like continues to proclaim the virtues of conservative values while living a life that does not reflect your beliefs. That's the trouble with indoctrination into any system of beliefs. It requires a blind adherence by the believer and said adherence causes the believer's enslavement. S.Simon - sucks on any teat that's available but has other teats lined up when old reliable dries up. "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Simple Simon: You have taken too many government pills. When the effects wear off hopefully you will see as clearly as I. Government handouts breed dependence. Dependence breds sloth. Senator Goldwater is not the same as or equivalent to John Dean. Dean has no principals, no moral compass. He simply opposes Bush and Republicans in general. Senator Goldwater is known for his principals and moral compass. Goldwater stood for individual liberty and the Constitution. He is THE Conservative by which all others are judged. I do not care about the popularity of Conservatism, I care about what is right. Right by my own standards, the standards of an independent, self reliant man. If one accepts popularity as the metric for political or moral direction, in the right time and place, one would find the soles of his feet sore from excessive goose stepping. Senator Goldwater was merely the torch bearer, not the torch. The torch has been passed on and again it will burn bright. Remember, circumstance does not make the man, it reveals him. "The government that has the power to grant you everything also has the power to take it all away" Barry Goldwater "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Barry Goldwater = John Dean. Both of them represent the extreme ends of the political spectrum. While Goldwater was at the conservative end, Dean is at the radical liberal end of the spectrum. Both are the same in that they are(were) unelectable. Milos, one of these days you are going to wake up and smell the roses that since conservatism is about as popular as liberalism the only viable solution is something in the middle. George Bush is in the middle. He's conservative when it comes to the government's primary duty to protect the country and he's moderate to liberal when it comes to giving the populace what they want - handouts from the government at the expense of the military/industrial complex. Mr. Bush lives in the real world. I wish you would join us there. S.Simon "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Well said!!!! "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Where the heck is Barry Goldwater when we need him! "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... The dumbest thing I ever heard from a liberal was one who called himself a "Compassionate Conservative" and he went on to create the biggest growth in government in 60 years, the largest entitlement package in history, the quickest enaction of state police powers, signed free speech limiting legislation that he himself was unconstitutional, signed economy destroying tarriff legislation and leaves the borders wide open for illegal immigrants. If it looks like a Democrat, smells like a Democrat and quacks like a Democrat - it's a Democrat! Vote Gridlock! Save America! "Horvath" wrote in message ... Stupid Things Said By Liberals December 15, 2003 Here's a list of some of the many dumb things libs said about Saddam's captu Robin Wright, Los Angeles Times: This isn't going to transform the situation. Joe Klein, TIME: Another terrorist attack on America would completely change this dynamic. Dennis Kucinich: No big deal, we've got to end the occupation of Iraq. Campbell Brown, NBC: This should help President Bush. MSNBC: The insurgents are too well organized to quit. Paula Zahn and Aaron Brown, CNN: Bush had better not gloat. Dan Rather, CBS (Paraphrased as he's impossible to understand): Think how poor Saddam must feel after being dragged from his hole! CNN: Iraqis don't care. There are gas lines and not enough electricity. Besides, why'd it take so long to get this one bearded guy who's not running anything? John F-ing Kerry: It's a good day for Iraqis but Americans are still going to die. Yasser Arafat, taking a page away from Tom Daschle: I am saddened. NPR: Repeated the no-gas, no-water, no-oil misery line. Best - Evan Thomas, Newsweek: In a land where pride and dignity mean everything, the images of Saddam are clearly intended to shame. This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe |
Stupid things said by liberals
Like you for example??
"Simple Simon" wrote in message ... That's it in a nutshell. That's what people want. People don't want some pie-in-the-sky pipe dream of fanatics who don't even live their own lives the way they preach others should. How can you explain this? S.Simon "Uncle Albert" wrote in message ink.net... I do rely on government for the things it should provide - courts, a common defense, police and all the other things necessary to protect my individual rights. The US Constitution does a pretty good job of laying it all out. What you desire and what GW Bush does is violate the Constitution, the law of the land. What good is worrying about the Colregs when the fundamental law of the country is ignored and trampled upon? What good are laws if they are selectively enforced and, for the most part, ignored? I do live in the real world and know what the future holds as a consequence of ever growing government and neglect of the law. "Compromise is the red carpet for tyranny" Ayn Rand "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Milos, You need to practice what you preach in order to lend veracity to your claims. It is you who live in a situation where you depend upon the government for your very existence. You need roads, electricity, grocery stores and telephone connections. You are trapped and living a life the government controls. I can understand why you yearn for what Barry claims to have stood for but really didn't as he was perhaps more dependent upon government than you are. Myself, on the other hand, being a realist have structured my life in such a way that I can reap government benefits as long as they are available but can escape from them should they involve the loss of my freedom. I can simply sail away and avail myself of my offshore bank accounts while your like continues to proclaim the virtues of conservative values while living a life that does not reflect your beliefs. That's the trouble with indoctrination into any system of beliefs. It requires a blind adherence by the believer and said adherence causes the believer's enslavement. S.Simon - sucks on any teat that's available but has other teats lined up when old reliable dries up. "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Simple Simon: You have taken too many government pills. When the effects wear off hopefully you will see as clearly as I. Government handouts breed dependence. Dependence breds sloth. Senator Goldwater is not the same as or equivalent to John Dean. Dean has no principals, no moral compass. He simply opposes Bush and Republicans in general. Senator Goldwater is known for his principals and moral compass. Goldwater stood for individual liberty and the Constitution. He is THE Conservative by which all others are judged. I do not care about the popularity of Conservatism, I care about what is right. Right by my own standards, the standards of an independent, self reliant man. If one accepts popularity as the metric for political or moral direction, in the right time and place, one would find the soles of his feet sore from excessive goose stepping. Senator Goldwater was merely the torch bearer, not the torch. The torch has been passed on and again it will burn bright. Remember, circumstance does not make the man, it reveals him. "The government that has the power to grant you everything also has the power to take it all away" Barry Goldwater "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Barry Goldwater = John Dean. Both of them represent the extreme ends of the political spectrum. While Goldwater was at the conservative end, Dean is at the radical liberal end of the spectrum. Both are the same in that they are(were) unelectable. Milos, one of these days you are going to wake up and smell the roses that since conservatism is about as popular as liberalism the only viable solution is something in the middle. George Bush is in the middle. He's conservative when it comes to the government's primary duty to protect the country and he's moderate to liberal when it comes to giving the populace what they want - handouts from the government at the expense of the military/industrial complex. Mr. Bush lives in the real world. I wish you would join us there. S.Simon "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Well said!!!! "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Where the heck is Barry Goldwater when we need him! "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... The dumbest thing I ever heard from a liberal was one who called himself a "Compassionate Conservative" and he went on to create the biggest growth in government in 60 years, the largest entitlement package in history, the quickest enaction of state police powers, signed free speech limiting legislation that he himself was unconstitutional, signed economy destroying tarriff legislation and leaves the borders wide open for illegal immigrants. If it looks like a Democrat, smells like a Democrat and quacks like a Democrat - it's a Democrat! Vote Gridlock! Save America! "Horvath" wrote in message ... Stupid Things Said By Liberals December 15, 2003 Here's a list of some of the many dumb things libs said about Saddam's captu Robin Wright, Los Angeles Times: This isn't going to transform the situation. Joe Klein, TIME: Another terrorist attack on America would completely change this dynamic. Dennis Kucinich: No big deal, we've got to end the occupation of Iraq. Campbell Brown, NBC: This should help President Bush. MSNBC: The insurgents are too well organized to quit. Paula Zahn and Aaron Brown, CNN: Bush had better not gloat. Dan Rather, CBS (Paraphrased as he's impossible to understand): Think how poor Saddam must feel after being dragged from his hole! CNN: Iraqis don't care. There are gas lines and not enough electricity. Besides, why'd it take so long to get this one bearded guy who's not running anything? John F-ing Kerry: It's a good day for Iraqis but Americans are still going to die. Yasser Arafat, taking a page away from Tom Daschle: I am saddened. NPR: Repeated the no-gas, no-water, no-oil misery line. Best - Evan Thomas, Newsweek: In a land where pride and dignity mean everything, the images of Saddam are clearly intended to shame. This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe |
Stupid things said by liberals
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Stupid things said by liberals
Barry Goldwater ran for president as himself, he did not lie like LBJ.
Today, Senator Goldwater is remembered more than LBJ. Goldwater was a General in the Air Force, he provided radio patches between American soldiers in VietNam and their families on his own time and expense, he was a highly skilled photographer, naturalist and sportsman. According to the Library of Congress poll, the second most influential book ever written, next to the Bible, was written by Ayn Rand. The book is still a great seller more than 50 years after it was published. These people are remembered for their ideas and principles. So I ask you: In a nutshell, 5 lines or less, give a GW Bush's philosophy as a series of non contradictory statements. I don't care for a description of his actions, I want his guiding underlying principals. Since GW Bush is a man of action, I ask you: 1. What legislation has he vetoed? 2. When has he acted against popular opinion to do the right thing? 3. Why does he consistently break the law, passing illegal and unconstitutional laws, some of which he has admitted is unconstitutional? "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Ayn Rand, Barry Goldwater, Ralph Nader, H. Perot, etc. etc. - all the same. All talk a good game but none do anything but talk and hope to persuade others to do the work and make the sacrifice. The only true leader leads by example. President Bush leads by example. That's it in a nutshell. That's what people want. People don't want some pie-in-the-sky pipe dream of fanatics who don't even live their own lives the way they preach others should. How can you explain this? S.Simon "Uncle Albert" wrote in message ink.net... I do rely on government for the things it should provide - courts, a common defense, police and all the other things necessary to protect my individual rights. The US Constitution does a pretty good job of laying it all out. What you desire and what GW Bush does is violate the Constitution, the law of the land. What good is worrying about the Colregs when the fundamental law of the country is ignored and trampled upon? What good are laws if they are selectively enforced and, for the most part, ignored? I do live in the real world and know what the future holds as a consequence of ever growing government and neglect of the law. "Compromise is the red carpet for tyranny" Ayn Rand "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Milos, You need to practice what you preach in order to lend veracity to your claims. It is you who live in a situation where you depend upon the government for your very existence. You need roads, electricity, grocery stores and telephone connections. You are trapped and living a life the government controls. I can understand why you yearn for what Barry claims to have stood for but really didn't as he was perhaps more dependent upon government than you are. Myself, on the other hand, being a realist have structured my life in such a way that I can reap government benefits as long as they are available but can escape from them should they involve the loss of my freedom. I can simply sail away and avail myself of my offshore bank accounts while your like continues to proclaim the virtues of conservative values while living a life that does not reflect your beliefs. That's the trouble with indoctrination into any system of beliefs. It requires a blind adherence by the believer and said adherence causes the believer's enslavement. S.Simon - sucks on any teat that's available but has other teats lined up when old reliable dries up. "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Simple Simon: You have taken too many government pills. When the effects wear off hopefully you will see as clearly as I. Government handouts breed dependence. Dependence breds sloth. Senator Goldwater is not the same as or equivalent to John Dean. Dean has no principals, no moral compass. He simply opposes Bush and Republicans in general. Senator Goldwater is known for his principals and moral compass. Goldwater stood for individual liberty and the Constitution. He is THE Conservative by which all others are judged. I do not care about the popularity of Conservatism, I care about what is right. Right by my own standards, the standards of an independent, self reliant man. If one accepts popularity as the metric for political or moral direction, in the right time and place, one would find the soles of his feet sore from excessive goose stepping. Senator Goldwater was merely the torch bearer, not the torch. The torch has been passed on and again it will burn bright. Remember, circumstance does not make the man, it reveals him. "The government that has the power to grant you everything also has the power to take it all away" Barry Goldwater "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Barry Goldwater = John Dean. Both of them represent the extreme ends of the political spectrum. While Goldwater was at the conservative end, Dean is at the radical liberal end of the spectrum. Both are the same in that they are(were) unelectable. Milos, one of these days you are going to wake up and smell the roses that since conservatism is about as popular as liberalism the only viable solution is something in the middle. George Bush is in the middle. He's conservative when it comes to the government's primary duty to protect the country and he's moderate to liberal when it comes to giving the populace what they want - handouts from the government at the expense of the military/industrial complex. Mr. Bush lives in the real world. I wish you would join us there. S.Simon "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Well said!!!! "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Where the heck is Barry Goldwater when we need him! "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... The dumbest thing I ever heard from a liberal was one who called himself a "Compassionate Conservative" and he went on to create the biggest growth in government in 60 years, the largest entitlement package in history, the quickest enaction of state police powers, signed free speech limiting legislation that he himself was unconstitutional, signed economy destroying tarriff legislation and leaves the borders wide open for illegal immigrants. If it looks like a Democrat, smells like a Democrat and quacks like a Democrat - it's a Democrat! Vote Gridlock! Save America! "Horvath" wrote in message ... Stupid Things Said By Liberals December 15, 2003 Here's a list of some of the many dumb things libs said about Saddam's captu Robin Wright, Los Angeles Times: This isn't going to transform the situation. Joe Klein, TIME: Another terrorist attack on America would completely change this dynamic. Dennis Kucinich: No big deal, we've got to end the occupation of Iraq. Campbell Brown, NBC: This should help President Bush. MSNBC: The insurgents are too well organized to quit. Paula Zahn and Aaron Brown, CNN: Bush had better not gloat. Dan Rather, CBS (Paraphrased as he's impossible to understand): Think how poor Saddam must feel after being dragged from his hole! CNN: Iraqis don't care. There are gas lines and not enough electricity. Besides, why'd it take so long to get this one bearded guy who's not running anything? John F-ing Kerry: It's a good day for Iraqis but Americans are still going to die. Yasser Arafat, taking a page away from Tom Daschle: I am saddened. NPR: Repeated the no-gas, no-water, no-oil misery line. Best - Evan Thomas, Newsweek: In a land where pride and dignity mean everything, the images of Saddam are clearly intended to shame. This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe |
Stupid things said by liberals
"Uncle Albert" wrote in message link.net... According to the Library of Congress poll, the second most influential book ever written, next to the Bible, was written by Ayn Rand. The book is still a great seller more than 50 years after it was published. So, I have a copy of "Atlas Shrugged" on my shelf and it is a good read. But Rand was a writer who did nothing personally to live by her principles. Her fine book is a good example of 'do as I say, not as I do'. Sometimes I have too wonder how much 'influence' a book has that reads more like science fiction than conservative literature. These people are remembered for their ideas and principles. Moreso for their eccentricity. So I ask you: In a nutshell, 5 lines or less, give a GW Bush's philosophy as a series of non contradictory statements. I don't care for a description of his actions, I want his guiding underlying principals. In a nutshell Mr. Bush's philosophy of compassionate conservativism involves giving the people what they want. People want bigger government. People want a strong secure country. People want a strong economy. People want a moral leader who works so future generations have a future. People have what they want and President Bush knows it. Since GW Bush is a man of action, I ask you: 1. What legislation has he vetoed? None that I know of but he said he was going to Washington with a new tone and he has delivered on his promise. When's the last time you can remember when a politician actually delivered on his promisses? 2. When has he acted against popular opinion to do the right thing? The right thing is not to act against popular opinion. The right thing is to do the job the populace wants you to do. 3. Why does he consistently break the law, passing illegal and unconstitutional laws, some of which he has admitted is unconstitutional? The President cannot pass laws. Only congress can do so. The President can veto laws passed by congress but the President's compassionate conservative philosophy says what the people want who is he to veto it? You've got to give credit where credit is due. Mr. Bush is exactly what he says he is. He does exactly what he said he'd do. You may not agree with his philosophy and beliefs but at least he's loyal to them. S.Simon "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Ayn Rand, Barry Goldwater, Ralph Nader, H. Perot, etc. etc. - all the same. All talk a good game but none do anything but talk and hope to persuade others to do the work and make the sacrifice. The only true leader leads by example. President Bush leads by example. That's it in a nutshell. That's what people want. People don't want some pie-in-the-sky pipe dream of fanatics who don't even live their own lives the way they preach others should. How can you explain this? S.Simon "Uncle Albert" wrote in message ink.net... I do rely on government for the things it should provide - courts, a common defense, police and all the other things necessary to protect my individual rights. The US Constitution does a pretty good job of laying it all out. What you desire and what GW Bush does is violate the Constitution, the law of the land. What good is worrying about the Colregs when the fundamental law of the country is ignored and trampled upon? What good are laws if they are selectively enforced and, for the most part, ignored? I do live in the real world and know what the future holds as a consequence of ever growing government and neglect of the law. "Compromise is the red carpet for tyranny" Ayn Rand "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Milos, You need to practice what you preach in order to lend veracity to your claims. It is you who live in a situation where you depend upon the government for your very existence. You need roads, electricity, grocery stores and telephone connections. You are trapped and living a life the government controls. I can understand why you yearn for what Barry claims to have stood for but really didn't as he was perhaps more dependent upon government than you are. Myself, on the other hand, being a realist have structured my life in such a way that I can reap government benefits as long as they are available but can escape from them should they involve the loss of my freedom. I can simply sail away and avail myself of my offshore bank accounts while your like continues to proclaim the virtues of conservative values while living a life that does not reflect your beliefs. That's the trouble with indoctrination into any system of beliefs. It requires a blind adherence by the believer and said adherence causes the believer's enslavement. S.Simon - sucks on any teat that's available but has other teats lined up when old reliable dries up. "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Simple Simon: You have taken too many government pills. When the effects wear off hopefully you will see as clearly as I. Government handouts breed dependence. Dependence breds sloth. Senator Goldwater is not the same as or equivalent to John Dean. Dean has no principals, no moral compass. He simply opposes Bush and Republicans in general. Senator Goldwater is known for his principals and moral compass. Goldwater stood for individual liberty and the Constitution. He is THE Conservative by which all others are judged. I do not care about the popularity of Conservatism, I care about what is right. Right by my own standards, the standards of an independent, self reliant man. If one accepts popularity as the metric for political or moral direction, in the right time and place, one would find the soles of his feet sore from excessive goose stepping. Senator Goldwater was merely the torch bearer, not the torch. The torch has been passed on and again it will burn bright. Remember, circumstance does not make the man, it reveals him. "The government that has the power to grant you everything also has the power to take it all away" Barry Goldwater "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Barry Goldwater = John Dean. Both of them represent the extreme ends of the political spectrum. While Goldwater was at the conservative end, Dean is at the radical liberal end of the spectrum. Both are the same in that they are(were) unelectable. Milos, one of these days you are going to wake up and smell the roses that since conservatism is about as popular as liberalism the only viable solution is something in the middle. George Bush is in the middle. He's conservative when it comes to the government's primary duty to protect the country and he's moderate to liberal when it comes to giving the populace what they want - handouts from the government at the expense of the military/industrial complex. Mr. Bush lives in the real world. I wish you would join us there. S.Simon "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Well said!!!! "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Where the heck is Barry Goldwater when we need him! "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... The dumbest thing I ever heard from a liberal was one who called himself a "Compassionate Conservative" and he went on to create the biggest growth in government in 60 years, the largest entitlement package in history, the quickest enaction of state police powers, signed free speech limiting legislation that he himself was unconstitutional, signed economy destroying tarriff legislation and leaves the borders wide open for illegal immigrants. If it looks like a Democrat, smells like a Democrat and quacks like a Democrat - it's a Democrat! Vote Gridlock! Save America! "Horvath" wrote in message ... Stupid Things Said By Liberals December 15, 2003 Here's a list of some of the many dumb things libs said about Saddam's captu Robin Wright, Los Angeles Times: This isn't going to transform the situation. Joe Klein, TIME: Another terrorist attack on America would completely change this dynamic. Dennis Kucinich: No big deal, we've got to end the occupation of Iraq. Campbell Brown, NBC: This should help President Bush. MSNBC: The insurgents are too well organized to quit. Paula Zahn and Aaron Brown, CNN: Bush had better not gloat. Dan Rather, CBS (Paraphrased as he's impossible to understand): Think how poor Saddam must feel after being dragged from his hole! CNN: Iraqis don't care. There are gas lines and not enough electricity. Besides, why'd it take so long to get this one bearded guy who's not running anything? John F-ing Kerry: It's a good day for Iraqis but Americans are still going to die. Yasser Arafat, taking a page away from Tom Daschle: I am saddened. NPR: Repeated the no-gas, no-water, no-oil misery line. Best - Evan Thomas, Newsweek: In a land where pride and dignity mean everything, the images of Saddam are clearly intended to shame. This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe |
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"Simple Simon" wrote in message ... "Uncle Albert" wrote in message link.net... According to the Library of Congress poll, the second most influential book ever written, next to the Bible, was written by Ayn Rand. The book is still a great seller more than 50 years after it was published. So, I have a copy of "Atlas Shrugged" on my shelf and it is a good read. But Rand was a writer who did nothing personally to live by her principles. Her fine book is a good example of 'do as I say, not as I do'. Sometimes I have too wonder how much 'influence' a book has that reads more like science fiction than conservative literature. These people are remembered for their ideas and principles. Moreso for their eccentricity. True in the case of Michael Jackson. So I ask you: In a nutshell, 5 lines or less, give a GW Bush's philosophy as a series of non contradictory statements. I don't care for a description of his actions, I want his guiding underlying principals. In a nutshell Mr. Bush's philosophy of compassionate conservativism involves giving the people what they want. People want bigger government. People want a strong secure country. People want a strong economy. People want a moral leader who works so future generations have a future. People have what they want and President Bush knows it. In other words the people want a liberal for a president. Bigger government is contraproductive to a strong economy and a bright future. Give them bread and circuses! Since GW Bush is a man of action, I ask you: 1. What legislation has he vetoed? None that I know of but he said he was going to Washington with a new tone and he has delivered on his promise. When's the last time you can remember when a politician actually delivered on his promisses? A Conservative named Reagan. "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem". 2. When has he acted against popular opinion to do the right thing? The right thing is not to act against popular opinion. The right thing is to do the job the populace wants you to do. Then why bother having a President and a Republic? We just need a pure democracy. See how long that lasts. 3. Why does he consistently break the law, passing illegal and unconstitutional laws, some of which he has admitted is unconstitutional? The President cannot pass laws. Only congress can do so. The President can veto laws passed by congress but the President's compassionate conservative philosophy says what the people want who is he to veto it? The President is the one to pass laws, Congress can over ride him if he does not pass them. Congress has exclusive power to make laws (excepting executive orders). So if Congress was filled by Democrats, would he sign everything too? How does he know what the "people" want? You've got to give credit where credit is due. Mr. Bush is exactly what he says he is. He does exactly what he said he'd do. You may not agree with his philosophy and beliefs but at least he's loyal to them. He has no consistent philosophy. He just wants to get re elected and blows in the wind with popularity. S.Simon "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Ayn Rand, Barry Goldwater, Ralph Nader, H. Perot, etc. etc. - all the same. All talk a good game but none do anything but talk and hope to persuade others to do the work and make the sacrifice. The only true leader leads by example. President Bush leads by example. That's it in a nutshell. That's what people want. People don't want some pie-in-the-sky pipe dream of fanatics who don't even live their own lives the way they preach others should. How can you explain this? S.Simon "Uncle Albert" wrote in message ink.net... I do rely on government for the things it should provide - courts, a common defense, police and all the other things necessary to protect my individual rights. The US Constitution does a pretty good job of laying it all out. What you desire and what GW Bush does is violate the Constitution, the law of the land. What good is worrying about the Colregs when the fundamental law of the country is ignored and trampled upon? What good are laws if they are selectively enforced and, for the most part, ignored? I do live in the real world and know what the future holds as a consequence of ever growing government and neglect of the law. "Compromise is the red carpet for tyranny" Ayn Rand "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Milos, You need to practice what you preach in order to lend veracity to your claims. It is you who live in a situation where you depend upon the government for your very existence. You need roads, electricity, grocery stores and telephone connections. You are trapped and living a life the government controls. I can understand why you yearn for what Barry claims to have stood for but really didn't as he was perhaps more dependent upon government than you are. Myself, on the other hand, being a realist have structured my life in such a way that I can reap government benefits as long as they are available but can escape from them should they involve the loss of my freedom. I can simply sail away and avail myself of my offshore bank accounts while your like continues to proclaim the virtues of conservative values while living a life that does not reflect your beliefs. That's the trouble with indoctrination into any system of beliefs. It requires a blind adherence by the believer and said adherence causes the believer's enslavement. S.Simon - sucks on any teat that's available but has other teats lined up when old reliable dries up. "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Simple Simon: You have taken too many government pills. When the effects wear off hopefully you will see as clearly as I. Government handouts breed dependence. Dependence breds sloth. Senator Goldwater is not the same as or equivalent to John Dean. Dean has no principals, no moral compass. He simply opposes Bush and Republicans in general. Senator Goldwater is known for his principals and moral compass. Goldwater stood for individual liberty and the Constitution. He is THE Conservative by which all others are judged. I do not care about the popularity of Conservatism, I care about what is right. Right by my own standards, the standards of an independent, self reliant man. If one accepts popularity as the metric for political or moral direction, in the right time and place, one would find the soles of his feet sore from excessive goose stepping. Senator Goldwater was merely the torch bearer, not the torch. The torch has been passed on and again it will burn bright. Remember, circumstance does not make the man, it reveals him. "The government that has the power to grant you everything also has the power to take it all away" Barry Goldwater "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Barry Goldwater = John Dean. Both of them represent the extreme ends of the political spectrum. While Goldwater was at the conservative end, Dean is at the radical liberal end of the spectrum. Both are the same in that they are(were) unelectable. Milos, one of these days you are going to wake up and smell the roses that since conservatism is about as popular as liberalism the only viable solution is something in the middle. George Bush is in the middle. He's conservative when it comes to the government's primary duty to protect the country and he's moderate to liberal when it comes to giving the populace what they want - handouts from the government at the expense of the military/industrial complex. Mr. Bush lives in the real world. I wish you would join us there. S.Simon "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Well said!!!! "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Where the heck is Barry Goldwater when we need him! "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... The dumbest thing I ever heard from a liberal was one who called himself a "Compassionate Conservative" and he went on to create the biggest growth in government in 60 years, the largest entitlement package in history, the quickest enaction of state police powers, signed free speech limiting legislation that he himself was unconstitutional, signed economy destroying tarriff legislation and leaves the borders wide open for illegal immigrants. If it looks like a Democrat, smells like a Democrat and quacks like a Democrat - it's a Democrat! Vote Gridlock! Save America! "Horvath" wrote in message ... Stupid Things Said By Liberals December 15, 2003 Here's a list of some of the many dumb things libs said about Saddam's captu Robin Wright, Los Angeles Times: This isn't going to transform the situation. Joe Klein, TIME: Another terrorist attack on America would completely change this dynamic. Dennis Kucinich: No big deal, we've got to end the occupation of Iraq. Campbell Brown, NBC: This should help President Bush. MSNBC: The insurgents are too well organized to quit. Paula Zahn and Aaron Brown, CNN: Bush had better not gloat. Dan Rather, CBS (Paraphrased as he's impossible to understand): Think how poor Saddam must feel after being dragged from his hole! CNN: Iraqis don't care. There are gas lines and not enough electricity. Besides, why'd it take so long to get this one bearded guy who's not running anything? John F-ing Kerry: It's a good day for Iraqis but Americans are still going to die. Yasser Arafat, taking a page away from Tom Daschle: I am saddened. NPR: Repeated the no-gas, no-water, no-oil misery line. Best - Evan Thomas, Newsweek: In a land where pride and dignity mean everything, the images of Saddam are clearly intended to shame. This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe |
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Why do you keep asking? Do you want some advice or something??
Totally mystified.... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Computer still working OK? S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Like you for example?? |
Stupid things said by liberals
Jeeesus.. you liked that piece of trash? After about 200 of the 1000 pages,
I figured it out already. The only reason I kept reading was it was a long flight to India. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... "Uncle Albert" wrote in message link.net... According to the Library of Congress poll, the second most influential book ever written, next to the Bible, was written by Ayn Rand. The book is still a great seller more than 50 years after it was published. So, I have a copy of "Atlas Shrugged" on my shelf and it is a good read. But Rand was a writer who did nothing personally to live by her principles. Her fine book is a good example of 'do as I say, not as I do'. Sometimes I have too wonder how much 'influence' a book has that reads more like science fiction than conservative literature. These people are remembered for their ideas and principles. Moreso for their eccentricity. So I ask you: In a nutshell, 5 lines or less, give a GW Bush's philosophy as a series of non contradictory statements. I don't care for a description of his actions, I want his guiding underlying principals. In a nutshell Mr. Bush's philosophy of compassionate conservativism involves giving the people what they want. People want bigger government. People want a strong secure country. People want a strong economy. People want a moral leader who works so future generations have a future. People have what they want and President Bush knows it. Since GW Bush is a man of action, I ask you: 1. What legislation has he vetoed? None that I know of but he said he was going to Washington with a new tone and he has delivered on his promise. When's the last time you can remember when a politician actually delivered on his promisses? 2. When has he acted against popular opinion to do the right thing? The right thing is not to act against popular opinion. The right thing is to do the job the populace wants you to do. 3. Why does he consistently break the law, passing illegal and unconstitutional laws, some of which he has admitted is unconstitutional? The President cannot pass laws. Only congress can do so. The President can veto laws passed by congress but the President's compassionate conservative philosophy says what the people want who is he to veto it? You've got to give credit where credit is due. Mr. Bush is exactly what he says he is. He does exactly what he said he'd do. You may not agree with his philosophy and beliefs but at least he's loyal to them. S.Simon "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Ayn Rand, Barry Goldwater, Ralph Nader, H. Perot, etc. etc. - all the same. All talk a good game but none do anything but talk and hope to persuade others to do the work and make the sacrifice. The only true leader leads by example. President Bush leads by example. That's it in a nutshell. That's what people want. People don't want some pie-in-the-sky pipe dream of fanatics who don't even live their own lives the way they preach others should. How can you explain this? S.Simon "Uncle Albert" wrote in message ink.net... I do rely on government for the things it should provide - courts, a common defense, police and all the other things necessary to protect my individual rights. The US Constitution does a pretty good job of laying it all out. What you desire and what GW Bush does is violate the Constitution, the law of the land. What good is worrying about the Colregs when the fundamental law of the country is ignored and trampled upon? What good are laws if they are selectively enforced and, for the most part, ignored? I do live in the real world and know what the future holds as a consequence of ever growing government and neglect of the law. "Compromise is the red carpet for tyranny" Ayn Rand "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Milos, You need to practice what you preach in order to lend veracity to your claims. It is you who live in a situation where you depend upon the government for your very existence. You need roads, electricity, grocery stores and telephone connections. You are trapped and living a life the government controls. I can understand why you yearn for what Barry claims to have stood for but really didn't as he was perhaps more dependent upon government than you are. Myself, on the other hand, being a realist have structured my life in such a way that I can reap government benefits as long as they are available but can escape from them should they involve the loss of my freedom. I can simply sail away and avail myself of my offshore bank accounts while your like continues to proclaim the virtues of conservative values while living a life that does not reflect your beliefs. That's the trouble with indoctrination into any system of beliefs. It requires a blind adherence by the believer and said adherence causes the believer's enslavement. S.Simon - sucks on any teat that's available but has other teats lined up when old reliable dries up. "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Simple Simon: You have taken too many government pills. When the effects wear off hopefully you will see as clearly as I. Government handouts breed dependence. Dependence breds sloth. Senator Goldwater is not the same as or equivalent to John Dean. Dean has no principals, no moral compass. He simply opposes Bush and Republicans in general. Senator Goldwater is known for his principals and moral compass. Goldwater stood for individual liberty and the Constitution. He is THE Conservative by which all others are judged. I do not care about the popularity of Conservatism, I care about what is right. Right by my own standards, the standards of an independent, self reliant man. If one accepts popularity as the metric for political or moral direction, in the right time and place, one would find the soles of his feet sore from excessive goose stepping. Senator Goldwater was merely the torch bearer, not the torch. The torch has been passed on and again it will burn bright. Remember, circumstance does not make the man, it reveals him. "The government that has the power to grant you everything also has the power to take it all away" Barry Goldwater "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Barry Goldwater = John Dean. Both of them represent the extreme ends of the political spectrum. While Goldwater was at the conservative end, Dean is at the radical liberal end of the spectrum. Both are the same in that they are(were) unelectable. Milos, one of these days you are going to wake up and smell the roses that since conservatism is about as popular as liberalism the only viable solution is something in the middle. George Bush is in the middle. He's conservative when it comes to the government's primary duty to protect the country and he's moderate to liberal when it comes to giving the populace what they want - handouts from the government at the expense of the military/industrial complex. Mr. Bush lives in the real world. I wish you would join us there. S.Simon "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... Well said!!!! "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Where the heck is Barry Goldwater when we need him! "Milos Forman" wrote in message ink.net... The dumbest thing I ever heard from a liberal was one who called himself a "Compassionate Conservative" and he went on to create the biggest growth in government in 60 years, the largest entitlement package in history, the quickest enaction of state police powers, signed free speech limiting legislation that he himself was unconstitutional, signed economy destroying tarriff legislation and leaves the borders wide open for illegal immigrants. If it looks like a Democrat, smells like a Democrat and quacks like a Democrat - it's a Democrat! Vote Gridlock! Save America! "Horvath" wrote in message ... Stupid Things Said By Liberals December 15, 2003 Here's a list of some of the many dumb things libs said about Saddam's captu Robin Wright, Los Angeles Times: This isn't going to transform the situation. Joe Klein, TIME: Another terrorist attack on America would completely change this dynamic. Dennis Kucinich: No big deal, we've got to end the occupation of Iraq. Campbell Brown, NBC: This should help President Bush. MSNBC: The insurgents are too well organized to quit. Paula Zahn and Aaron Brown, CNN: Bush had better not gloat. Dan Rather, CBS (Paraphrased as he's impossible to understand): Think how poor Saddam must feel after being dragged from his hole! CNN: Iraqis don't care. There are gas lines and not enough electricity. Besides, why'd it take so long to get this one bearded guy who's not running anything? John F-ing Kerry: It's a good day for Iraqis but Americans are still going to die. Yasser Arafat, taking a page away from Tom Daschle: I am saddened. NPR: Repeated the no-gas, no-water, no-oil misery line. Best - Evan Thomas, Newsweek: In a land where pride and dignity mean everything, the images of Saddam are clearly intended to shame. This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe |
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I'm asking because I have a concern for back orifice
activity and not the kind Bobsprit is fond of. Have you checked your router security lately? S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Why do you keep asking? Do you want some advice or something?? Totally mystified.... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Computer still working OK? S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Like you for example?? |
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Yup... everything is working as it should. We look at
incoming and outgoing automatically. All anomalies are reported to me and the tech babe. Take a look at AATools. You can use their eval copy to id and remove it. http://www.glocksoft.com/process_info.htm FYI, I believe it's only a threat for 95/98 systems. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... I'm asking because I have a concern for back orifice activity and not the kind Bobsprit is fond of. Have you checked your router security lately? S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Why do you keep asking? Do you want some advice or something?? Totally mystified.... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Computer still working OK? S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Like you for example?? |
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Hahahahhahahahahahah! Look for a boot sector related crash on Jan 1, when you turn on or when the system clock rolls over. I'll give you till then to find what you probably won't be able to find unless you're more savvy than I think you are. Good luck. S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Yup... everything is working as it should. We look at incoming and outgoing automatically. All anomalies are reported to me and the tech babe. Take a look at AATools. You can use their eval copy to id and remove it. http://www.glocksoft.com/process_info.htm FYI, I believe it's only a threat for 95/98 systems. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... I'm asking because I have a concern for back orifice activity and not the kind Bobsprit is fond of. Have you checked your router security lately? S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Why do you keep asking? Do you want some advice or something?? Totally mystified.... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Computer still working OK? S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Like you for example?? |
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I'm willing to be you any amount of money nothing will
happen to any computer I own or administer. Put up or shut up fool. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Hahahahhahahahahahah! Look for a boot sector related crash on Jan 1, when you turn on or when the system clock rolls over. I'll give you till then to find what you probably won't be able to find unless you're more savvy than I think you are. Good luck. S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Yup... everything is working as it should. We look at incoming and outgoing automatically. All anomalies are reported to me and the tech babe. Take a look at AATools. You can use their eval copy to id and remove it. http://www.glocksoft.com/process_info.htm FYI, I believe it's only a threat for 95/98 systems. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... I'm asking because I have a concern for back orifice activity and not the kind Bobsprit is fond of. Have you checked your router security lately? S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Why do you keep asking? Do you want some advice or something?? Totally mystified.... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Computer still working OK? S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Like you for example?? |
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It's bad enough if you lose the use of your computer for
a while, you should not compound your folly by losing money as well. Getting rid of a boot sector virus is really not that difficult - just a pain in the ass. But, then you need to ask yourself where else might it be lurking. FDISK is the only real cure. Backing up data is always a good idea. S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... I'm willing to be you any amount of money nothing will happen to any computer I own or administer. Put up or shut up fool. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Hahahahhahahahahahah! Look for a boot sector related crash on Jan 1, when you turn on or when the system clock rolls over. I'll give you till then to find what you probably won't be able to find unless you're more savvy than I think you are. Good luck. S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Yup... everything is working as it should. We look at incoming and outgoing automatically. All anomalies are reported to me and the tech babe. Take a look at AATools. You can use their eval copy to id and remove it. http://www.glocksoft.com/process_info.htm FYI, I believe it's only a threat for 95/98 systems. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... I'm asking because I have a concern for back orifice activity and not the kind Bobsprit is fond of. Have you checked your router security lately? S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Why do you keep asking? Do you want some advice or something?? Totally mystified.... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Computer still working OK? S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Like you for example?? |
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Like I said, put up your money or shut the f*ck up. You
don't know anything about the noise your making. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... It's bad enough if you lose the use of your computer for a while, you should not compound your folly by losing money as well. Getting rid of a boot sector virus is really not that difficult - just a pain in the ass. But, then you need to ask yourself where else might it be lurking. FDISK is the only real cure. Backing up data is always a good idea. S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... I'm willing to be you any amount of money nothing will happen to any computer I own or administer. Put up or shut up fool. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Hahahahhahahahahahah! Look for a boot sector related crash on Jan 1, when you turn on or when the system clock rolls over. I'll give you till then to find what you probably won't be able to find unless you're more savvy than I think you are. Good luck. S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Yup... everything is working as it should. We look at incoming and outgoing automatically. All anomalies are reported to me and the tech babe. Take a look at AATools. You can use their eval copy to id and remove it. http://www.glocksoft.com/process_info.htm FYI, I believe it's only a threat for 95/98 systems. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... I'm asking because I have a concern for back orifice activity and not the kind Bobsprit is fond of. Have you checked your router security lately? S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Why do you keep asking? Do you want some advice or something?? Totally mystified.... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Computer still working OK? S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Like you for example?? |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Like I said, put up your money or shut the f*ck up. You don't know anything about the noise your making. Anything you say . . . S.Simon |
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So, put up some cash.... like I said, you know nothing,
so shut your hole. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Like I said, put up your money or shut the f*ck up. You don't know anything about the noise your making. Anything you say . . . S.Simon |
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Exactly.
wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:28:44 -0500, "Simple Simon" wrote: It's bad enough if you lose the use of your computer for a while, you should not compound your folly by losing money as well. Getting rid of a boot sector virus is really not that difficult - just a pain in the ass. But, then you need to ask yourself where else might it be lurking. FDISK is the only real cure. Completely wrong Backing up data is always a good idea. Completely correct BB |
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I will neither confirm nor deny.
S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... So, put up some cash.... like I said, you know nothing, so shut your hole. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Like I said, put up your money or shut the f*ck up. You don't know anything about the noise your making. Anything you say . . . S.Simon |
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That you have any cash?
"Simple Simon" wrote in message ... I will neither confirm nor deny. S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... So, put up some cash.... like I said, you know nothing, so shut your hole. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Like I said, put up your money or shut the f*ck up. You don't know anything about the noise your making. Anything you say . . . S.Simon |
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I have plenty enough cash to buy your amateur
operation lock, stock and barrel. But, being a sane man, why would I do such a foolish thing? S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... That you have any cash? "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... I will neither confirm nor deny. S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... So, put up some cash.... like I said, you know nothing, so shut your hole. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Like I said, put up your money or shut the f*ck up. You don't know anything about the noise your making. Anything you say . . . S.Simon |
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So, I'm still waiting for you to bet me real money that
anything untoward will happen to any of my computer systems on Jan. 1. I think, make that I know, you're full of sh*t. In addition, I'm equally certain that the only cash you have is sitting in a jar next to the bunk. You use it for been, the occasional hooker, and food for your cat, who I'm sure has to fight you tooth and nail for it. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... I have plenty enough cash to buy your amateur operation lock, stock and barrel. But, being a sane man, why would I do such a foolish thing? S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... That you have any cash? "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... I will neither confirm nor deny. S.Simon "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... So, put up some cash.... like I said, you know nothing, so shut your hole. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Like I said, put up your money or shut the f*ck up. You don't know anything about the noise your making. Anything you say . . . S.Simon |
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