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Donny's Dilemma wrote:

Hell I know Yanks speak a different version of English, but this
piece, though it may be true in every word (but I doubt it)
Is garbage, emotive garbage!!
In my very humble opinion!

It certainly had a touch of tear-jerker in it. Reading it made me feel that
the underlying message was that war really sucks. Then I got to...

-----------------------------------
We need to remember that God created this vast and glorious world for us to
live in, freely, but also at great sacrifice. Let us never forget from the
revolutionary War to the Gulf War and all the wars in-between that sacrifice
was made for our freedom.

Remember to pray praises for this great country of ours and also pray for
those still in murderous unrest around the world. STOP and thank God for
being alive at someone else's sacrifice. God Bless.
-----------------------------------

....and got the impression that it's about one country's freedom, regardless
of the expense, either to its own, or to anyone that gets in the way. Yes,
it's an appeal to emotion which seeks to instill patriotic feelings.
Moreover, by highlighting the fact that several thousand boys were
sacrificed in that battle, it sets a benchmark of implied expectation of the
sort of sacrifice that others might be expected to endure.

(Oops! I don't do politics!)

--
Wally
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk
Latest work: The Langlois Bridge (after Van Gogh)

Keep back-peddling, ozzy, you're almost to NZ.

SV

Donny's Dilemma wrote in message
...

Would someone else please read this

http://usssamuelgompers.org/Saltysea.htm

and tell me if I'm wrong when I say it's

"Oh and that story was well written, the words and phrases were
straight out of the best tear jerker 'we died young and brave '
stories."

AND

"Damn, and he did it all in a monologue with flags waving in the
background."

AND

"What I was refering to that brought about your inane rant was that
the
story as told appeared a little embelished to achieve a particular
aim."

AND

"Sure did sound like one, a tear jerker."
"You didn't see that when you read it?
Hell I could 'hear' the voice. That guy that does all the Civil War
docos."

Hell I know Yanks speak a different version of English, but this
piece, though it may be true in every word (but I doubt it)
Is garbage, emotive garbage!!
In my very humble opinion!

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Have fun, I've got a plane to catch, drinks to drink and similar RL
activities to do. Was on the water at 0700 his morning for a while
before I dragged myself to the office, tidying up loose ends & setting
my office phone to fwd calls to my mobile - which I'll probably switch
off. Back here in time to celebrate the Hobart end of the race while
all the people in the Northern Hemisphere freeze.

I was going to look at a yawl for sale in Sydney but have been spared -
someone else has bought it already. A few trips out & about on
Pit****er are a 'must-do', tho.

If I get really bored I may check in but otherwise, Merry Christmas to
all of you people, including you brainwashed people of the USA where
you're not allowed to say anything but 'Happy Holidays' these days.
God, that's hysterical. the real worry is that it's happening here,
too!

Later. I have a life, boat(s) to play on and Christmas drinking to do
while I catch up with absent RL friends. My hotmail account is
currently defunct so send any abuse to my real addy. It's not that hard
to find.

Peter Wiley

In article , Donny's
Dilemma wrote:

Back pedalling?
Bwaaahahahahahahahahaaa!
It was a piece of schmarmy crap Scootz,
flag waving, muted bugleplaying, sun setting in the background
garbage!

I'd use both barrels but I need one for that idiot Joe..

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 00:06:12 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

Keep back-peddling, ozzy, you're almost to NZ.

SV

Donny's Dilemma wrote in message
.. .

Would someone else please read this

http://usssamuelgompers.org/Saltysea.htm

and tell me if I'm wrong when I say it's

"Oh and that story was well written, the words and phrases were
straight out of the best tear jerker 'we died young and brave '
stories."

AND

"Damn, and he did it all in a monologue with flags waving in the
background."

AND

"What I was refering to that brought about your inane rant was that
the
story as told appeared a little embelished to achieve a particular
aim."

AND

"Sure did sound like one, a tear jerker."
"You didn't see that when you read it?
Hell I could 'hear' the voice. That guy that does all the Civil War
docos."

Hell I know Yanks speak a different version of English, but this
piece, though it may be true in every word (but I doubt it)
Is garbage, emotive garbage!!
In my very humble opinion!

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Ahhhhhhhhh...........don't ya just love it?

Donny's Enemma wrote
flag waving, muted bugleplaying, sun setting in the background

Have a good trip Petey. We're not brainwashed, just superior.

Scotty......remember the reason for the season.

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

Have fun, I've got a plane to catch, drinks to drink and similar RL
activities to do. Was on the water at 0700 his morning for a while
before I dragged myself to the office, tidying up loose ends & setting
my office phone to fwd calls to my mobile - which I'll probably switch
off. Back here in time to celebrate the Hobart end of the race while
all the people in the Northern Hemisphere freeze.

I was going to look at a yawl for sale in Sydney but have been spared -
someone else has bought it already. A few trips out & about on
Pit****er are a 'must-do', tho.

If I get really bored I may check in but otherwise, Merry Christmas to
all of you people, including you brainwashed people of the USA where
you're not allowed to say anything but 'Happy Holidays' these days.
God, that's hysterical. the real worry is that it's happening here,
too!

Later. I have a life, boat(s) to play on and Christmas drinking to do
while I catch up with absent RL friends. My hotmail account is
currently defunct so send any abuse to my real addy. It's not that hard
to find.

Peter Wiley

In article , Donny's
Dilemma wrote:

Back pedalling?
Bwaaahahahahahahahahaaa!
It was a piece of schmarmy crap Scootz,
flag waving, muted bugleplaying, sun setting in the background
garbage!

I'd use both barrels but I need one for that idiot Joe..

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 00:06:12 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

Keep back-peddling, ozzy, you're almost to NZ.

SV

Donny's Dilemma wrote in message
.. .

Would someone else please read this

http://usssamuelgompers.org/Saltysea.htm

and tell me if I'm wrong when I say it's

"Oh and that story was well written, the words and phrases were
straight out of the best tear jerker 'we died young and brave '
stories."

AND

"Damn, and he did it all in a monologue with flags waving in the
background."

AND

"What I was refering to that brought about your inane rant was that
the
story as told appeared a little embelished to achieve a particular
aim."

AND

"Sure did sound like one, a tear jerker."
"You didn't see that when you read it?
Hell I could 'hear' the voice. That guy that does all the Civil War
docos."

Hell I know Yanks speak a different version of English, but this
piece, though it may be true in every word (but I doubt it)
Is garbage, emotive garbage!!
In my very humble opinion!

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Donny's Dilemma wrote:

Yep, you got it, patriotic schmaltz riddled with cliche.

Almost vomit-inducing. Wearing a ring like a necklace must restrict the air
supply. (Damn, that was almost politics again...)

You're an artist?

A slapper of paint. :-) Took it up as a hobby about four years ago.

A good friend of mine is Mike Parr
http://www.shermangalleries.com.au/a...ists/parr.html

Fortunately he's no longer doing the performance stuff and has
returned to mainly drawing.

I'm not familiar with him - my interest in other artists thus far has been
various masters from the Rennaissance to Dali, wth a focus on the second
half of the 19th century. I knew little about the last few centries' art
history when I got started, so I had a voracious appetite for books. I'll
have a look around the site.

--
Wally
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk
Latest work: The Langlois Bridge (after Van Gogh)

Donny's Dilemma wrote:

A good friend of mine is Mike Parr
http://www.shermangalleries.com.au/a...ists/parr.html

Fortunately he's no longer doing the performance stuff and has
returned to mainly drawing.

Just been reading about his Malevich performance - it reminds me of David
Blaine's recent thing in London, but I think Parr nailing his arm to the
wall is a touch of class that Blaine's interpretation didn't approach.
Blaine was cooped up in a clear plastic box suspended from a crane over the
banks of the Thames for 40-odd days, no food, just water, with crowds of
gawkers in-situ on the street (hurling a combination of insults,
encouragement, burgers and golf balls).

--
Wally
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk
Latest work: The Langlois Bridge (after Van Gogh)

Donny's Dilemma wrote:

Like I said, thankfully he's gone back to drawing.
Always worried me when he talked about the arm nailing thing...he only
has one :-)

Oh, right, I thought he had his jacket draped over his opposite shoulder as
a sort of semi-feotal curl-up-to-sleep gesture. Aye, best stick with the
drawing... :-)

--
Wally
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk
Latest work: The Langlois Bridge (after Van Gogh)

so, you admit you're gay.

"Wally" wrote

You're an artist?

A slapper of paint. :-) Took it up as a hobby about four years ago.

Peter,

And a Merry Christwas to you also, you
Master- Baiter.

I'm sure OZ, the Head Master-baiter will hold up your end while your
gone

Ole Thom

"Wally" wrote in message ...
Donny's Dilemma wrote:

Hell I know Yanks speak a different version of English, but this
piece, though it may be true in every word (but I doubt it)
Is garbage, emotive garbage!!
In my very humble opinion!

Nothing humble about you OZ.

It certainly had a touch of tear-jerker in it. Reading it made me feel that
the underlying message was that war really sucks. Then I got to...

I think your right, that the underlying message is war sucks, and no
one likes dying with there guts in there hands. But people have, and
did it for the good off all. Seems to me you would rather run and hide
then stand up for whats right. You think you deserve the freedom you
have to paint your elementry like knock offs just because you were
born. Well you dont, you have your freedom because of the scrafices
your fore fathers made for you. They gave all so you can paint what
you want when you want, you have a freedom to do that because of what
other did for you. To bad you were not born in Iraq, you would off
been forced to paint pictures of Saddam, or perhaps you would of been
forced to make statues of saddam, and with the level of skill in your
painting saddams son oday would of kicked in your door and rapeed your
wife in front of you because saddam would not have been happy with
your ability. Sorta like the scoccer team deal. Until the good ol USA
steps in and put a stop to it. It's clear you do not understand what
it takes to stand up and stop evil. And it's clear your not willing to
do it for yourself, you would rather go with the flow.

-----------------------------------
We need to remember that God created this vast and glorious world for us to
live in, freely, but also at great sacrifice. Let us never forget from the
revolutionary War to the Gulf War and all the wars in-between that sacrifice
was made for our freedom.

So your saying that god created this world for folks like saddam,
hitler , stalin, ho chi man, ect. That might makes right and if no one
will stand up for what is right man must just crumble and bow down.
Well you go drink your drinks and party , and sail and do give a
second thought to the guys in Iraq, afganastan dying for freedom.
Enjoy yourself you self centered pompas ass.

Remember to pray praises for this great country of ours and also pray for
those still in murderous unrest around the world. STOP and thank God for
being alive at someone else's sacrifice. God Bless.
-----------------------------------

...and got the impression that it's about one country's freedom, regardless
of the expense, either to its own, or to anyone that gets in the way.

Give me liberty or give me death!!!

it's an appeal to emotion which seeks to instill patriotic
feelings.
Moreover, by highlighting the fact that several thousand boys were
sacrificed in that battle, it sets a benchmark of implied expectation of the
sort of sacrifice that others might be expected to endure.

Good People will always fight for freedom, because there is always
going to be someone that wants to take freedom away.

(Oops! I don't do politics!)

You dont do painting very well either. Try to do something thats not
"after" someone else. It odvious your a follower and not a leader, it
shows clearly in your art. Perhaps you should just shut up break your
brushes and get out of the way of the real leaders, Bet your gonna cut
your ear off to show just how much of a true artist you are huh? Nah,
to much of a scarifice on your part, let the real artist do things
original, while you coast on and rip off there style without
contrubiting anything that is meaningful. Your a thief stealing other
styles and a thief given freedom because your not willing to honor
what others did for you. Most people understand Freedom is not free.
Most fell grateful for what others did. I guess Monet is just a hack
that your improving on his style huh, he was not worthy of your self
centered greatness.

Joe

Joe wrote:

I think your right, that the underlying message is war sucks, and no
one likes dying with there guts in there hands.

I'm glad we agree on this.

But people have, and
did it for the good off all.

Every last one of them, in every single war?

Seems to me you would rather run and hide
then stand up for whats right.

You know virtually nothing about me, you moron.

You think you

You think you're a mind reader.

-----------------------------------
We need to remember that God created this vast and glorious world
for us to live in, freely, but also at great sacrifice. Let us never
forget from the revolutionary War to the Gulf War and all the wars
in-between that sacrifice was made for our freedom.

So your saying that god created this world for folks like saddam,
hitler , stalin, ho chi man, ect.

Fallacy of bifurcation. If I don't agree with one viewpoint, I must
therefore agree with the opposite? There must be only two viewpoints, then,
eh Joe?

You dont do painting very well either.

That's debateable, but it's clear that you couldn't argue your way out of a
wet paper bag. The only objection I raised was the drum-beating crap that is
the manifestation of the US thinking it's the nationalised version of god on
earth.

--
Wally
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk
Latest work: The Langlois Bridge (after Van Gogh)

Scott Vernon wrote:

so, you admit you're gay.

Why, are you cruisin' for a boyfriend?

--
Wally
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk
Latest work: The Langlois Bridge (after Van Gogh)

it wasn't a question, boy.

"Wally" wrote in message
...
Scott Vernon wrote:

so, you admit you're gay.

Why, are you cruisin' for a boyfriend?

--
Wally
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk
Latest work: The Langlois Bridge (after Van Gogh)

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
so, you admit you're gay.

Why are you interested in this?

Regards

Donal
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