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Simple Simon November 2nd 03 11:15 PM

OT - Partition Magic
 
Has anybody here used Partition Magic to set up
partitions on an XP Home machine so Win 98 can
be installed on a separate partition resulting in
a dual boot or multi-boot system? Did the software
work as advertised?

I have this nice little scanner called a Travel Scan
and the company that made it either went out of
business or the product was bought out by another
company. Unfortunately the software does not
load or work with XP and there will be no new
software produced for it. Rather than tossing the
scanner I was thinking instead of installing Win98
on another partition on my hard drive and loading
the scanner software there because it works just
great on the Win98 OS. Also, I have some other
legacy programs that aren't compatible with
WinXP that I would still like to use and I could
also load them on the Win98 partition.

I found a site where I can download Partition Magic
for 49.95. What do you think?

Ganz, do you have any multi-boot computers?

S.Simon



Wally November 2nd 03 11:32 PM

OT - Partition Magic
 
Simple Simon wrote:
Has anybody here used Partition Magic to set up
partitions on an XP Home machine so Win 98 can
be installed on a separate partition resulting in
a dual boot or multi-boot system? Did the software
work as advertised?


I haven't used it with XP, but it has always worked well when I have used
it.


--
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www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com
Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light.




Simple Simon November 2nd 03 11:42 PM

OT - Partition Magic
 
Downloading as I peck away here.

You're a liberal but one fine liberal.

Thanks,
S.Simon


The Captains Nemesis wrote in message ...
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:15:25 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

Has anybody here used Partition Magic to set up
partitions on an XP Home machine so Win 98 can
be installed on a separate partition resulting in
a dual boot or multi-boot system? Did the software
work as advertised?


Yep, Works very well.
Go here to get ver 8 free
http://fosi.ural.net/
There are no viruses.

I have this nice little scanner called a Travel Scan
and the company that made it either went out of
business or the product was bought out by another
company. Unfortunately the software does not
load or work with XP and there will be no new
software produced for it. Rather than tossing the
scanner I was thinking instead of installing Win98
on another partition on my hard drive and loading
the scanner software there because it works just
great on the Win98 OS. Also, I have some other
legacy programs that aren't compatible with
WinXP that I would still like to use and I could
also load them on the Win98 partition.


Yep, I have an HPScanjet5P for which HP in their wisdom has not
developed drivers for XP however generic XP drivers will still work in
the Windows Scan/Fax application. have you tried that?

I found a site where I can download Partition Magic
for 49.95. What do you think?

Ganz, do you have any multi-boot computers?

S.Simon




Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





Steve Thomas November 2nd 03 11:57 PM

OT - Partition Magic
 
I have used System Commander for several years to switch between operating
systems..
Wasn't there an exchange of ownership, a buy out or stock swap or some such,
between these two companies?
Partition Magic only did partitions at one time.
Then System Commander added limited partition resizing.
I don't remember what happened after that.
Maybe I resized a partition...

Steve Thomas

"Wally" wrote in message
...
Simple Simon wrote:
Has anybody here used Partition Magic to set up
partitions on an XP Home machine so Win 98 can
be installed on a separate partition resulting in
a dual boot or multi-boot system? Did the software
work as advertised?


I haven't used it with XP, but it has always worked well when I have used
it.


--
Wally
www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com
Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light.






Jonathan Ganz November 3rd 03 12:05 AM

OT - Partition Magic
 
Yes. Works as advertised.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Has anybody here used Partition Magic to set up
partitions on an XP Home machine so Win 98 can
be installed on a separate partition resulting in
a dual boot or multi-boot system? Did the software
work as advertised?

I have this nice little scanner called a Travel Scan
and the company that made it either went out of
business or the product was bought out by another
company. Unfortunately the software does not
load or work with XP and there will be no new
software produced for it. Rather than tossing the
scanner I was thinking instead of installing Win98
on another partition on my hard drive and loading
the scanner software there because it works just
great on the Win98 OS. Also, I have some other
legacy programs that aren't compatible with
WinXP that I would still like to use and I could
also load them on the Win98 partition.

I found a site where I can download Partition Magic
for 49.95. What do you think?

Ganz, do you have any multi-boot computers?

S.Simon





two wheels November 3rd 03 12:37 AM

OT - Partition Magic
 
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While you're at it, you can set up a 5+ GB linux partition, in case you
ever want to experment with linux. If you decide not to use it for
linux, you can always reformat the extra disk for Windows later--use as
a storage disk.

two wheels


On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:15:25 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

Has anybody here used Partition Magic to set up
partitions on an XP Home machine so Win 98 can
be installed on a separate partition resulting in
a dual boot or multi-boot system? Did the software
work as advertised?

I have this nice little scanner called a Travel Scan
and the company that made it either went out of
business or the product was bought out by another
company. Unfortunately the software does not
load or work with XP and there will be no new
software produced for it. Rather than tossing the
scanner I was thinking instead of installing Win98
on another partition on my hard drive and loading
the scanner software there because it works just
great on the Win98 OS. Also, I have some other
legacy programs that aren't compatible with
WinXP that I would still like to use and I could
also load them on the Win98 partition.

I found a site where I can download Partition Magic
for 49.95. What do you think?

Ganz, do you have any multi-boot computers?

S.Simon


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Simple Simon November 3rd 03 12:48 AM

OT - Partition Magic
 

Yes, three partitions is what I had in mind on my new laptop.
It has a 40 gig hard drive and I figured I'd go with 30 for
the main OS (winxp) and five each for win98 and linux.

Sound like a plan?

S.Simon

"two wheels" wrote in message ...
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While you're at it, you can set up a 5+ GB linux partition, in case you
ever want to experment with linux. If you decide not to use it for
linux, you can always reformat the extra disk for Windows later--use as
a storage disk.

two wheels


On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:15:25 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

Has anybody here used Partition Magic to set up
partitions on an XP Home machine so Win 98 can
be installed on a separate partition resulting in
a dual boot or multi-boot system? Did the software
work as advertised?

I have this nice little scanner called a Travel Scan
and the company that made it either went out of
business or the product was bought out by another
company. Unfortunately the software does not
load or work with XP and there will be no new
software produced for it. Rather than tossing the
scanner I was thinking instead of installing Win98
on another partition on my hard drive and loading
the scanner software there because it works just
great on the Win98 OS. Also, I have some other
legacy programs that aren't compatible with
WinXP that I would still like to use and I could
also load them on the Win98 partition.

I found a site where I can download Partition Magic
for 49.95. What do you think?

Ganz, do you have any multi-boot computers?

S.Simon


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two wheels November 3rd 03 01:52 AM

OT - Partition Magic
 
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If you don't have linux CDs yet, try http://www.linuxcentral.com/

That's where I got my Linux 9 (Red Hat) CDs. The price now: $3

They also have Mandrake Linux 9.2 for $7

I chose Red Hat, just because there's a lot of no-fuss (RPM format)
software out there for it. The hardest thing was finding a driver for
my Windows modem, but I finally found the modem driver for my
particular kernel--at the modem maker's web site.

two wheels


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thunder November 3rd 03 09:58 AM

OT - Partition Magic
 
On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 18:15:25 -0500, Simple Simon wrote:

Has anybody here used Partition Magic to set up partitions on an XP Home
machine so Win 98 can be installed on a separate partition resulting in a
dual boot or multi-boot system? Did the software work as advertised?


I've heard good things about Partition Magic, but with XP it is not really
needed.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p.../multiboot.asp

My dual booting experiences were with Linux/Windows, and not applicable to
your situation, but there are many in the Linux community that swear by PM.

Donal November 3rd 03 06:48 PM

OT - Partition Magic
 

"two wheels" wrote in message
...
I chose Red Hat, just because there's a lot of no-fuss (RPM format)
software out there for it. The hardest thing was finding a driver for
my Windows modem, but I finally found the modem driver for my
particular kernel--at the modem maker's web site.



Doesn't Linux come with the necessary stuff for partitioning the disk.

**NEAL** Linux includes a boot manager (Lilo) which allows you to choose
which operating system to load.

Regards


Donal
--




Jonathan Ganz November 3rd 03 06:48 PM

OT - Partition Magic
 
It's useful for large disk sizes.... in our case dual 200 gig drives.

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 18:15:25 -0500, Simple Simon wrote:

Has anybody here used Partition Magic to set up partitions on an XP Home
machine so Win 98 can be installed on a separate partition resulting in

a
dual boot or multi-boot system? Did the software work as advertised?


I've heard good things about Partition Magic, but with XP it is not really
needed.


http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p.../multiboot.asp

My dual booting experiences were with Linux/Windows, and not applicable to
your situation, but there are many in the Linux community that swear by

PM.



The_navigator© November 3rd 03 08:47 PM

OT - Partition Magic
 
Spot on. I'd recommed Redhat linux for you.

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Yes, three partitions is what I had in mind on my new laptop.
It has a 40 gig hard drive and I figured I'd go with 30 for
the main OS (winxp) and five each for win98 and linux.

Sound like a plan?

S.Simon

"two wheels" wrote in message ...

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

While you're at it, you can set up a 5+ GB linux partition, in case you
ever want to experment with linux. If you decide not to use it for
linux, you can always reformat the extra disk for Windows later--use as
a storage disk.

two wheels


On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:15:25 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote:


Has anybody here used Partition Magic to set up
partitions on an XP Home machine so Win 98 can
be installed on a separate partition resulting in
a dual boot or multi-boot system? Did the software
work as advertised?

I have this nice little scanner called a Travel Scan
and the company that made it either went out of
business or the product was bought out by another
company. Unfortunately the software does not
load or work with XP and there will be no new
software produced for it. Rather than tossing the
scanner I was thinking instead of installing Win98
on another partition on my hard drive and loading
the scanner software there because it works just
great on the Win98 OS. Also, I have some other
legacy programs that aren't compatible with
WinXP that I would still like to use and I could
also load them on the Win98 partition.

I found a site where I can download Partition Magic
for 49.95. What do you think?

Ganz, do you have any multi-boot computers?

S.Simon


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The_navigator© November 3rd 03 08:48 PM

OT - Partition Magic
 
Don't use Lilo use grub.

Cheers MC

Donal wrote:

"two wheels" wrote in message
...

I chose Red Hat, just because there's a lot of no-fuss (RPM format)
software out there for it. The hardest thing was finding a driver for
my Windows modem, but I finally found the modem driver for my
particular kernel--at the modem maker's web site.




Doesn't Linux come with the necessary stuff for partitioning the disk.

**NEAL** Linux includes a boot manager (Lilo) which allows you to choose
which operating system to load.

Regards


Donal
--





Capt. Mooron November 3rd 03 10:45 PM

OT - Partition Magic
 
Can't you guys partition a friggin HD without a program??????

Bwahahahahahahahahaaaaa....

CM

The Captains Nemesis wrote in message
...
| On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 04:58:09 -0500, thunder
| wrote:
|
| On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 18:15:25 -0500, Simple Simon wrote:
|
| Has anybody here used Partition Magic to set up partitions on an XP
Home
| machine so Win 98 can be installed on a separate partition resulting in
a
| dual boot or multi-boot system? Did the software work as advertised?
|
| I've heard good things about Partition Magic, but with XP it is not
really
| needed.
|
|
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...rted/multiboot

..asp
|
| My dual booting experiences were with Linux/Windows, and not applicable
to
| your situation, but there are many in the Linux community that swear by
PM.
|
| Yeah but once he's set up without partitioning, he then needs a
| program like PM to make the partition for the 2nd OS.
|
|
| Oz1...of the 3 twins.
|
| I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.
|
|



Wally November 4th 03 12:00 AM

OT - Partition Magic
 
Capt. Mooron wrote:

Can't you guys partition a friggin HD without a program??????


Using a program is much easier than using an array of switches to fire
opcodes down the IDE cable...


--
Wally
www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com
Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light.




The_navigator© November 4th 03 12:03 AM

OT - Partition Magic
 
What do you use, a chisel?

Cheers MC

Capt. Mooron wrote:
Can't you guys partition a friggin HD without a program??????

Bwahahahahahahahahaaaaa....

CM

The Captains Nemesis wrote in message
...
| On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 04:58:09 -0500, thunder
| wrote:
|
| On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 18:15:25 -0500, Simple Simon wrote:
|
| Has anybody here used Partition Magic to set up partitions on an XP
Home
| machine so Win 98 can be installed on a separate partition resulting in
a
| dual boot or multi-boot system? Did the software work as advertised?
|
| I've heard good things about Partition Magic, but with XP it is not
really
| needed.
|
|

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...rted/multiboot


.asp
|
| My dual booting experiences were with Linux/Windows, and not applicable
to
| your situation, but there are many in the Linux community that swear by
PM.
|
| Yeah but once he's set up without partitioning, he then needs a
| program like PM to make the partition for the 2nd OS.
|
|
| Oz1...of the 3 twins.
|
| I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.
|
|




Capt. Mooron November 4th 03 12:13 AM

OT - Partition Magic
 
Damn... so used to the RAID system!

Win 98.... bwahahahahahahahahahahaaaa!

CM

The Captains Nemesis wrote in message
...
| On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:45:14 -0400, "Capt. Mooron"
| wrote:
|
| Can't you guys partition a friggin HD without a program??????
|
| Bwahahahahahahahahaaaaa....
|
| CM
|
| Sure, before setup.
| But after that nope.
|
|
| Oz1...of the 3 twins.
|
| I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.
|
|



The_navigator© November 4th 03 12:23 AM

OT - Partition Magic
 


Capt. Mooron wrote:


Can't you guys partition a friggin HD without a program??????



Using a program is much easier than using an array of switches to fire
opcodes down the IDE cable...



Donal November 4th 03 12:25 AM

OT - Partition Magic
 

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
Don't use Lilo use grub.


I don't know about grub. Lilo has worked flawlessly for the last 8 years.


Regards


Donal
--




Simple Simon November 4th 03 12:28 AM

OT - Partition Magic
 
I'm certainly glad I didn't waste my money on
a retail box of PartitionMagic.

I downloaded it and BootMagic from the fosi
site and it is the latest version (8) but it would not
work. I've tried it three or four times and as far
as I can tell I'm doing everything right but when
I resize the existing partition and create another
smaller FAT32 partition for Win98 and reboot
to finish the job PartitionMagic comes on and does
a few things then it starts giving error messages
until it says too many errors - aborting partitioning.

I've checked the hard drive. It's new and less than
a month old and has no errors on it according to
chkdsk.exe, it has no bad sectors or anything.
It's good. I've done a little reading on some of
the tech groups and there's letters to the effect
that HP does something to their disks when they
are imaged that prevents partitioning. What a drag!

I might just have save all my date, reformat, do an
fdisk and set up the partitions that way if I can't
find out why PM can't do the job.

S.Simon




"Simple Simon" wrote in message ...
Has anybody here used Partition Magic to set up
partitions on an XP Home machine so Win 98 can
be installed on a separate partition resulting in
a dual boot or multi-boot system? Did the software
work as advertised?

I have this nice little scanner called a Travel Scan
and the company that made it either went out of
business or the product was bought out by another
company. Unfortunately the software does not
load or work with XP and there will be no new
software produced for it. Rather than tossing the
scanner I was thinking instead of installing Win98
on another partition on my hard drive and loading
the scanner software there because it works just
great on the Win98 OS. Also, I have some other
legacy programs that aren't compatible with
WinXP that I would still like to use and I could
also load them on the Win98 partition.

I found a site where I can download Partition Magic
for 49.95. What do you think?

Ganz, do you have any multi-boot computers?

S.Simon





Wally November 4th 03 12:37 AM

OT - Partition Magic
 
Simple Simon wrote:

... to finish the job PartitionMagic comes on and does
a few things then it starts giving error messages
until it says too many errors - aborting partitioning.


What error messages does it give?


I've done a little reading on some of
the tech groups and there's letters to the effect
that HP does something to their disks when they
are imaged that prevents partitioning. What a drag!

I might just have save all my date, reformat, do an
fdisk and set up the partitions that way if I can't
find out why PM can't do the job.


See if you can find out what HP do to their disks - if it's reversible,
it'll save a lot of hassle.


--
Wally
www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com
Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light.




The_navigator© November 4th 03 12:39 AM

OT - Partition Magic
 
Try it, you'll like it.

Cheers MC

Donal wrote:

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...

Don't use Lilo use grub.



I don't know about grub. Lilo has worked flawlessly for the last 8 years.


Regards


Donal
--





The_navigator© November 4th 03 12:40 AM

OT - Partition Magic
 
Use Linux.

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

I'm certainly glad I didn't waste my money on
a retail box of PartitionMagic.

I downloaded it and BootMagic from the fosi
site and it is the latest version (8) but it would not
work. I've tried it three or four times and as far
as I can tell I'm doing everything right but when
I resize the existing partition and create another
smaller FAT32 partition for Win98 and reboot
to finish the job PartitionMagic comes on and does
a few things then it starts giving error messages
until it says too many errors - aborting partitioning.

I've checked the hard drive. It's new and less than
a month old and has no errors on it according to
chkdsk.exe, it has no bad sectors or anything.
It's good. I've done a little reading on some of
the tech groups and there's letters to the effect
that HP does something to their disks when they
are imaged that prevents partitioning. What a drag!

I might just have save all my date, reformat, do an
fdisk and set up the partitions that way if I can't
find out why PM can't do the job.

S.Simon




"Simple Simon" wrote in message ...

Has anybody here used Partition Magic to set up
partitions on an XP Home machine so Win 98 can
be installed on a separate partition resulting in
a dual boot or multi-boot system? Did the software
work as advertised?

I have this nice little scanner called a Travel Scan
and the company that made it either went out of
business or the product was bought out by another
company. Unfortunately the software does not
load or work with XP and there will be no new
software produced for it. Rather than tossing the
scanner I was thinking instead of installing Win98
on another partition on my hard drive and loading
the scanner software there because it works just
great on the Win98 OS. Also, I have some other
legacy programs that aren't compatible with
WinXP that I would still like to use and I could
also load them on the Win98 partition.

I found a site where I can download Partition Magic
for 49.95. What do you think?

Ganz, do you have any multi-boot computers?

S.Simon







Wally November 4th 03 12:46 AM

OT - Partition Magic
 
Simple Simon wrote:

I've done a little reading on some of
the tech groups and there's letters to the effect
that HP does something to their disks when they
are imaged that prevents partitioning. What a drag!


Might be something like...

http://www.interex.org/hpworldnews/hpw203/06news.html

....which says...

--------------------
HP still bundles recovery software, but instead of burning it on a CD-ROM,
the company places the files on dedicated partitions of the computers' hard
disks. The recovery software takes up seven CD-ROMs or nearly 4.5 gigabytes
of space on Pavilion hard drives. The partition is hidden and
write-protected so the consumer cannot accidentally erase it.
--------------------



--
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www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com
Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light.




Jonathan Ganz November 4th 03 01:06 AM

OT - Partition Magic
 
I was suspecting something like that.... not really up on pavilion hds.

"Wally" wrote in message
...
Simple Simon wrote:

I've done a little reading on some of
the tech groups and there's letters to the effect
that HP does something to their disks when they
are imaged that prevents partitioning. What a drag!


Might be something like...

http://www.interex.org/hpworldnews/hpw203/06news.html

...which says...

--------------------
HP still bundles recovery software, but instead of burning it on a CD-ROM,
the company places the files on dedicated partitions of the computers'

hard
disks. The recovery software takes up seven CD-ROMs or nearly 4.5

gigabytes
of space on Pavilion hard drives. The partition is hidden and
write-protected so the consumer cannot accidentally erase it.
--------------------



--
Wally
www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com
Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light.







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