GPS it not always functioning
 

The last days of solar eruptions, and the following GPS dysfunction should
show everyone that a handheld GPS is not sufficient Backup for a Fixed GPS.

If you want real backup you should have totally independent systems.

Off course some of us have been crossing oceans before the GPS system was
invented, and don't really need those electronic devices.

Peter

GPS it not always functioning
 

On a trip to Hawaii I had two GPS units completely fail and a third just
died for lack of enough batteries. Not to worry even with some rust to dust
off my cursory skills I found when cross checking with a passing ship my
poor celestial skills had me located fairly close on the chart to where I
was on the planet. For a good start I had maintained an accurate DR plot
and so had a good start point when the 'lights went out'.

If you want real backup take the time and trouble to become acquainted with
real navigation. Each type and style mutually supports the others at best or
at worst stands alone. That starts with Coastal Navigation and Piloting,
Deduced Reckoning, if you are going off shore add in Celestial of course,
and then there's the understanding of natural things usually referred to as
Polynesian style navigation and finally, last but not least the age of
tricks of seafarers embodied in such books as "Emergency Navigation." Those
who live by the "AA" will surely meet their well deserved fate by the lack
of the "AA". Or you could just stay on your Bayliner and pretend a lot.
It isn't that hard to learn and beats watching Seinfeld re-runs ad nauseum.


MSK

GPS it not always functioning
 

This is an old argument which is not going to disappear for awhile.
For those doing serious offshore navigation, without the ability of
celestial or some other forms of navigation, other than GPS, the phrase
"accident looking for a place to happen" still applies.
In time, it may not, but for now.........

otn

Peter S/Y Anicula wrote:

The last days of solar eruptions, and the following GPS dysfunction should
show everyone that a handheld GPS is not sufficient Backup for a Fixed GPS.

If you want real backup you should have totally independent systems.

Off course some of us have been crossing oceans before the GPS system was
invented, and don't really need those electronic devices.

Peter

GPS it not always functioning
 

On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 03:33:21 +0100, "Peter S/Y Anicula"
wrote this crap:

The last days of solar eruptions, and the following GPS dysfunction should
show everyone that a handheld GPS is not sufficient Backup for a Fixed GPS.

If you want real backup you should have totally independent systems.

Off course some of us have been crossing oceans before the GPS system was
invented, and don't really need those electronic devices.

Thankyouverymuch for that stupid comment. I don't need a boat to
cross the ocean.


Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.

GPS it not always functioning
 

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 23:11:07 -0500, "Schoonertrash"
wrote this crap:

On a trip to Hawaii I had two GPS units completely fail and a third just
died for lack of enough batteries. Not to worry even with some rust to dust
off my cursory skills I found when cross checking with a passing ship my
poor celestial skills had me located fairly close on the chart to where I
was on the planet. For a good start I had maintained an accurate DR plot
and so had a good start point when the 'lights went out'.

If you want real backup take the time and trouble to become acquainted with
real navigation. Each type and style blah blah blah.

A good sailor NEVER runs out of beer, rum, or batteries.


Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.

GPS it not always functioning
 

Two out of three wasn't so bad. Well . . . . one of out of three . . ..
there was this can of Oly I had forgotten about . .. . . oh well.

GPS it not always functioning
 

You can get all of those at the local 711. I know you're out.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 23:11:07 -0500, "Schoonertrash"
wrote this crap:

On a trip to Hawaii I had two GPS units completely fail and a third just
died for lack of enough batteries. Not to worry even with some rust to
dust
off my cursory skills I found when cross checking with a passing ship my
poor celestial skills had me located fairly close on the chart to where
I
was on the planet. For a good start I had maintained an accurate DR plot
and so had a good start point when the 'lights went out'.

If you want real backup take the time and trouble to become acquainted
with
real navigation. Each type and style blah blah blah.

A good sailor NEVER runs out of beer, rum, or batteries.


Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.

GPS it not always functioning
 

Don't worry, you don't have one! BUT YOU'VE GOT TITS!

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 03:33:21 +0100, "Peter S/Y Anicula"
wrote this crap:

The last days of solar eruptions, and the following GPS dysfunction
should
show everyone that a handheld GPS is not sufficient Backup for a Fixed
GPS.

If you want real backup you should have totally independent systems.

Off course some of us have been crossing oceans before the GPS system was
invented, and don't really need those electronic devices.

Thankyouverymuch for that stupid comment. I don't need a boat to
cross the ocean.


Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.

GPS it not always functioning
 

200 or so miles east of Hawaii . . . .there are zero 7-11's. Worse no
package stores or microbreweries. But there are refurbished mail buoys.
Now I wonder if Seaborne Express takes Visa?????? On the batteries I'm
trying out to new toys. One is a standard 110 battery recharger via an
inverter (same one that I use for the laptop) that handles four AA or AAA to
full charge in 15 minutes. The other (two versions) are similar except
solar powered. One is the standard box arrangement and the second looks like
a flashlight with a mini solar panel along the side. Got that from a friend
in the alternative energy business. Juries still out on those devices.
Looking for one that runs off of 12 volt direct. Any recommendations?

As for the Seaborne Express comment . . . .any real sailor knows the story
so it shouldn't need explaining.

Cheers

MST

GPS it not always functioning
 

The Captains Nemesis wrote:


Guess that doesn't make me a "real sailor" because I don't get your
obscure reference to some local expression.

I think he was talking about the mail bouy. Don't you have them down your way?

DSK

GPS it not always functioning
 

On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 10:35:37 -0500, DSK wrote:



The Captains Nemesis wrote:


Guess that doesn't make me a "real sailor" because I don't get your
obscure reference to some local expression.

When I was in the Navy on a submarine we sent a new guy on what we thought was a
wild goose chase to get some relative bearing grease. A couple of hours later
he comes back saying "We don't have any on board, but I've got the stock
number." Disbelieving we followed him to the supply microfiche machine where an
entry titled 'Grease, relative bearing, Mark V Fire Director' was displayed. It
spoiled all of our fun, send somebody for something that didn't exist and he
finds it!

JJ



I think he was talking about the mail bouy. Don't you have them down your way?

DSK

James Johnson
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GPS it not always functioning
 

On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:38:55 GMT, James Johnson
wrote:

When I was in the Navy on a submarine we sent a new guy on what we thought was a
wild goose chase to get some relative bearing grease. A couple of hours later
he comes back saying "We don't have any on board, but I've got the stock
number." Disbelieving we followed him to the supply microfiche machine where an
entry titled 'Grease, relative bearing, Mark V Fire Director' was displayed. It
spoiled all of our fun, send somebody for something that didn't exist and he
finds it!

Batteries for the sound powered phones were fun. A gallon of
propwash, twelve feet of payline, and the gun report worked well for
us too. Of course, seeing someone in a Type I, with a safety harness
and a boat hook standing mail buoy watch was the cream.

GPS it not always functioning
 

We used to send campers to look for deer berries
until one of them ate a few.

"A. Diesel Vents" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:38:55 GMT, James Johnson
wrote:

When I was in the Navy on a submarine we sent a new guy on what we
thought was a
wild goose chase to get some relative bearing grease. A couple of hours
later
he comes back saying "We don't have any on board, but I've got the stock
number." Disbelieving we followed him to the supply microfiche machine
where an
entry titled 'Grease, relative bearing, Mark V Fire Director' was
displayed. It
spoiled all of our fun, send somebody for something that didn't exist and
he
finds it!

Batteries for the sound powered phones were fun. A gallon of
propwash, twelve feet of payline, and the gun report worked well for
us too. Of course, seeing someone in a Type I, with a safety harness
and a boat hook standing mail buoy watch was the cream.

GPS it not always functioning
 

On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:38:55 GMT, James Johnson
wrote this crap:


When I was in the Navy on a submarine we sent a new guy on what we thought was a
wild goose chase to get some relative bearing grease. A couple of hours later
he comes back saying "We don't have any on board, but I've got the stock
number." Disbelieving we followed him to the supply microfiche machine where an
entry titled 'Grease, relative bearing, Mark V Fire Director' was displayed. It
spoiled all of our fun, send somebody for something that didn't exist and he
finds it!

One time, as a new Lt. I was assigned to the Field Artillery. While
the guns were being set up, a Sgt. came up to me and said, "We almost
got it set up, Lt. Horvath, but we're short of firing line. How about
going to the warehouse, and getting us a new roll of firing line."

I said, "I'll do my best, Sarge." and I jumped in a jeep, and drove
off. I went into town, had a steak, and a few beers, and drove back.

I went back to the artillery, and made up a story about how I went to
the warehouse and asked for firing line, and the quartermaster looked
all over the warehouse, and couldn't find any. The Sgt. looked at me
and asked, "You really didn't go to the warehouse, did you?"

"Hell no!" I said. "I went into town for lunch."



Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.

GPS it not always functioning
 

And that's why he's growing breasts.

Cheers MC

Horvath wrote:



The Sgt. looked at me
and asked, "You really didn't go to the whorehouse, did you?"

"Hell no!" I said. "I went into town for lunch."

GPS it not always functioning
 

That's where you met your current boyfriend?

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:38:55 GMT, James Johnson
wrote this crap:


When I was in the Navy on a submarine we sent a new guy on what we
thought was a
wild goose chase to get some relative bearing grease. A couple of hours
later
he comes back saying "We don't have any on board, but I've got the stock
number." Disbelieving we followed him to the supply microfiche machine
where an
entry titled 'Grease, relative bearing, Mark V Fire Director' was
displayed. It
spoiled all of our fun, send somebody for something that didn't exist and
he
finds it!

One time, as a new Lt. I was assigned to the Field Artillery. While
the guns were being set up, a Sgt. came up to me and said, "We almost
got it set up, Lt. Horvath, but we're short of firing line. How about
going to the warehouse, and getting us a new roll of firing line."

I said, "I'll do my best, Sarge." and I jumped in a jeep, and drove
off. I went into town, had a steak, and a few beers, and drove back.

I went back to the artillery, and made up a story about how I went to
the warehouse and asked for firing line, and the quartermaster looked
all over the warehouse, and couldn't find any. The Sgt. looked at me
and asked, "You really didn't go to the warehouse, did you?"

"Hell no!" I said. "I went into town for lunch."



Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.

GPS it not always functioning
 

On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 11:08:14 -0800, A. Diesel Vents wrote:

On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:38:55 GMT, James Johnson
wrote:

When I was in the Navy on a submarine we sent a new guy on what we thought was a
wild goose chase to get some relative bearing grease. A couple of hours later
he comes back saying "We don't have any on board, but I've got the stock
number." Disbelieving we followed him to the supply microfiche machine where an
entry titled 'Grease, relative bearing, Mark V Fire Director' was displayed. It
spoiled all of our fun, send somebody for something that didn't exist and he
finds it!

On a cruiser we sent someone to one of the boiler rooms for a BT punch, and on
the boat we sent a midshipman to the torpedo room for a water slug.

JJ
Batteries for the sound powered phones were fun. A gallon of
propwash, twelve feet of payline, and the gun report worked well for
us too. Of course, seeing someone in a Type I, with a safety harness
and a boat hook standing mail buoy watch was the cream.

James Johnson
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