Gel coat replacement?
 

I was reading a boat reviewer and I can't remember about what boat but the
reviewer mentioned a newer system rather than gelcoat for the hull finish
and mentioned how much better than gelcoat it was. He said it was being used
on a few sportfishers and the sailboat building industry had yet to catch
on. Can't remember the name of the material mentioned. Any one heard of this
newer material and the name?


Brian McAloon
S/V CLIODHNA M28 OI
Pompano Beach, Florida.

Gel coat replacement?
 

Brian McAloon wrote:

I was reading a boat reviewer and I can't remember about what boat but the
reviewer mentioned a newer system rather than gelcoat for the hull finish
and mentioned how much better than gelcoat it was. He said it was being used
on a few sportfishers and the sailboat building industry had yet to catch
on. Can't remember the name of the material mentioned. Any one heard of this
newer material and the name?

Are you talking about vinylester? It's still not as good a barrier to water
permeability as epoxy. Gelcoat is just a mix of polyester resin & wax. It's main
benefit to the boat is that it takes a gloss & it's cheap (although this
benefits the boatbuilder more than the owner)

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Gel coat replacement?
 

That was it. He seemed to think it was superior.
"DSK" wrote in message
...
Brian McAloon wrote:

I was reading a boat reviewer and I can't remember about what boat but
the
reviewer mentioned a newer system rather than gelcoat for the hull
finish
and mentioned how much better than gelcoat it was. He said it was being
used
on a few sportfishers and the sailboat building industry had yet to
catch
on. Can't remember the name of the material mentioned. Any one heard of
this
newer material and the name?

Are you talking about vinylester? It's still not as good a barrier to
water
permeability as epoxy. Gelcoat is just a mix of polyester resin & wax.
It's main
benefit to the boat is that it takes a gloss & it's cheap (although this
benefits the boatbuilder more than the owner)

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Gel coat replacement?
 

The Captains Nemesis wrote in message
| Vinyl Ester

Isn't that the name of Capt. Neal's inflatable doll?

Gel coat replacement?
 

A vinyl doll is probably more satisfying than
your LP fantasy. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahhahahahaha!

S.Simon


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...

The Captains Nemesis wrote in message
| Vinyl Ester

Isn't that the name of Capt. Neal's inflatable doll?

Gel coat replacement?
 

The Captains Neurasthenic wrote in message ...

Well maybe, but at least when LP squeaked it wouldn't be that plastic
squeal.

All that fat woman can do is fart and groan. The sad thing is
it's impossible to tell which is which.

S.Simon

Gel coat replacement?
 

As far as I know Epoxy is more waterproof, but I would like to learn
something new.
If You think Vinylester is better, could you back your view point with some
references ?

Peter

The Captains Nemesis skrev i en meddelelse
...
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:35:16 GMT, "Brian McAloon"
wrote:

That was it. He seemed to think it was superior.

Vinyl Ester is waaay better than the old resins.
Much less prone to moisture absorption and IIRC less brittle.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
Who spends an hour tuning before every race not just when new sails go on
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Gel coat replacement?
 

http://www.netcomposites.com/education.asp?sequence=11


"Peter S/Y Anicula" wrote in message k...
As far as I know Epoxy is more waterproof, but I would like to learn
something new.
If You think Vinylester is better, could you back your view point with some
references ?

Peter

The Captains Nemesis skrev i en meddelelse
...
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:35:16 GMT, "Brian McAloon"
wrote:

That was it. He seemed to think it was superior.

Vinyl Ester is waaay better than the old resins.
Much less prone to moisture absorption and IIRC less brittle.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
Who spends an hour tuning before every race not just when new sails go on
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Gel coat replacement?
 

http://www.netcomposites.com/education.asp?sequence=12

Epoxy gets the nod but vinylester is cheaper.

S.Simon

"Peter S/Y Anicula" wrote in message k...
As far as I know Epoxy is more waterproof, but I would like to learn
something new.
If You think Vinylester is better, could you back your view point with some
references ?

Peter

The Captains Nemesis skrev i en meddelelse
...
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:35:16 GMT, "Brian McAloon"
wrote:

That was it. He seemed to think it was superior.

Vinyl Ester is waaay better than the old resins.
Much less prone to moisture absorption and IIRC less brittle.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
Who spends an hour tuning before every race not just when new sails go on
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Gel coat replacement?
 

Thank you, interesting reference:
Do you agree on this conclusion ?
Epoxy more waterproof than vinylester but more expensive.
Vinylester more expensive and more waterproof than polyester.

"Simple Simon" skrev i en meddelelse
...

http://www.netcomposites.com/education.asp?sequence=12

Epoxy gets the nod but vinylester is cheaper.

S.Simon

"Peter S/Y Anicula" wrote in message
k...
As far as I know Epoxy is more waterproof, but I would like to learn
something new.
If You think Vinylester is better, could you back your view point with
some
references ?

Peter

The Captains Nemesis skrev i en meddelelse
...
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:35:16 GMT, "Brian McAloon"
wrote:

That was it. He seemed to think it was superior.

Vinyl Ester is waaay better than the old resins.
Much less prone to moisture absorption and IIRC less brittle.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
Who spends an hour tuning before every race not just when new sails go
on
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Gel coat replacement?
 

I'm sure there are plenty of technical sites on the internet if you
care to look.

Some people are just too laisy, especially after a bottle of wine, a cigar
and ..

Peter

Gel coat replacement?
 

"Simple Simon" :
A vinyl doll is probably more satisfying than
your LP fantasy. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahhahahahaha!

S.Simon

You are the one with fantasy, the scrumptious Capt. Mooron is dealing with
reality...

LP (poor baby)

Gel coat replacement?
 

"Simple Simon" wrote:

The Captains Neurasthenic wrote in message
...

Well maybe, but at least when LP squeaked it wouldn't be that plastic
squeal.

All that fat woman can do is fart and groan. The sad thing is
it's impossible to tell which is which.

S.Simon

Oh come on Neal! You've been striving for my normal blood pressure all
along...

BTW, isn't your appointment on Nov 7th? I'll be here on the evening of
Nov. 6 to raise your blood pressure...

LP (your friend) Bwaaaheahahahahaa!

Gel coat replacement?
 

Yah, right! Like some dude acting like a slut in a
newsgroup is reality.

S.Simon


"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:UhFob.68433$B_2.11581@okepread02...

"Simple Simon" :
A vinyl doll is probably more satisfying than
your LP fantasy. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahhahahahaha!

S.Simon

You are the one with fantasy, the scrumptious Capt. Mooron is dealing with
reality...

LP (poor baby)

Gel coat replacement?
 

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:PkFob.68453$B_2.14349@okepread02...

"Simple Simon" wrote:

The Captains Neurasthenic wrote in message
...

Well maybe, but at least when LP squeaked it wouldn't be that plastic
squeal.

All that fat woman can do is fart and groan. The sad thing is
it's impossible to tell which is which.

S.Simon

Oh come on Neal! You've been striving for my normal blood pressure all
along...

BTW, isn't your appointment on Nov 7th? I'll be here on the evening of
Nov. 6 to raise your blood pressure...

LP (your friend) Bwaaaheahahahahaa!

This morning after a thirty mile bike ride, the return
fifteen miles of which was against 20-30 knot headwinds,
I weighed myself on the supermarket scale and was a
lean and mean 173 pounds (down from 197 a month ago)
and my BP was 109/67. There ain't no way even Chloe
Anderson could cause my BP to raise enough to flunk
that physical.

I'm not a degenerate pill popper to mask symptoms of
a problem like most of the wusses on this group. I'm
a man of action who directly attacks the cause of the
symptoms. I'm gonna live forever at this rate.

S.Simon

Gel coat replacement?
 

Peter,

I don't have the answer for you but I'm in the process of getting it for
you. I elected to go with the vinyl bottom this passed summer. So, I'll
let you know in about 5 yrs. It sure was a great looking job!

Ole Thom

Gel coat replacement?
 

What company did you get your vinyl paint from.

I used to use Woolsey Super Vinylast but they
don't make it any more. I like Vinyl for the
scrubability factor alone plus the colors seem
brighter and they don't fade.

The only real trouble with vinyl is you can only
paint certain kinds of paint on top of it without
it bubbling up. It generally has to be sanded or
scraped off before applying regular paints to it.

I had to buy a special gallon of paint to cover the
old vinyl before applying the Petit paint this last
time. It is designed to 'fix' the vinyl paint against
being lifted by the regular paints. It wasn't cheap.

S.Simon



"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
Peter,

I don't have the answer for you but I'm in the process of getting it for
you. I elected to go with the vinyl bottom this passed summer. So, I'll
let you know in about 5 yrs. It sure was a great looking job!

Ole Thom

Gel coat replacement?
 

Is this really true? I think the partition coefficient is probably
comparable. The key to osmosis resistance is not the water barrier but
the lack of voids that can be filled with solutes...

Cheers MC

DSK wrote:

Are you talking about vinylester? It's still not as good a barrier to water
permeability as epoxy. Gelcoat is just a mix of polyester resin & wax. It's main
benefit to the boat is that it takes a gloss & it's cheap (although this
benefits the boatbuilder more than the owner)

Gel coat replacement?
 

The question is why does someone sign themselves "lady anything"? I
wonder why she daidn't respond to your fat comment. Seems to me to be a
clear channel to bit of a nerve there to tweak -or I'm not The_navigator©

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:PkFob.68453$B_2.14349@okepread02...

"Simple Simon" wrote:

The Captains Neurasthenic wrote in message

. ..

Well maybe, but at least when LP squeaked it wouldn't be that plastic
squeal.

All that fat woman can do is fart and groan. The sad thing is
it's impossible to tell which is which.

S.Simon

Oh come on Neal! You've been striving for my normal blood pressure all
along...

BTW, isn't your appointment on Nov 7th? I'll be here on the evening of
Nov. 6 to raise your blood pressure...

LP (your friend) Bwaaaheahahahahaa!


This morning after a thirty mile bike ride, the return
fifteen miles of which was against 20-30 knot headwinds,
I weighed myself on the supermarket scale and was a
lean and mean 173 pounds (down from 197 a month ago)
and my BP was 109/67. There ain't no way even Chloe
Anderson could cause my BP to raise enough to flunk
that physical.

I'm not a degenerate pill popper to mask symptoms of
a problem like most of the wusses on this group. I'm
a man of action who directly attacks the cause of the
symptoms. I'm gonna live forever at this rate.

S.Simon

Gel coat replacement?
 

Assuming Lady Pilot really does fly commercial aircraft
you have to ask yourself when's the last time you saw
a female commercial pilot who was younger than middle
age and did not look like a bull dyke? I have yet to see
one who is anything but very thick around the middle,
has a butch haircut, facial hair, dried-up complexion,
and heavy cigarette habit all combined with a military
manner unbecoming of a woman.

LP gets her ego stroked by posting anonymously on the
newsgroups because in real life she gets little more
than being treated just like one of the guys. Nobody
is going to be sexually attracted to a woman who looks
and acts like a man. I sort of feel sorry for her.

S.Simon


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...
The question is why does someone sign themselves "lady anything"? I
wonder why she daidn't respond to your fat comment. Seems to me to be a
clear channel to bit of a nerve there to tweak -or I'm not The_navigator©

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:PkFob.68453$B_2.14349@okepread02...

"Simple Simon" wrote:

The Captains Neurasthenic wrote in message

. ..

Well maybe, but at least when LP squeaked it wouldn't be that plastic
squeal.

All that fat woman can do is fart and groan. The sad thing is
it's impossible to tell which is which.

S.Simon

Oh come on Neal! You've been striving for my normal blood pressure all
along...

BTW, isn't your appointment on Nov 7th? I'll be here on the evening of
Nov. 6 to raise your blood pressure...

LP (your friend) Bwaaaheahahahahaa!


This morning after a thirty mile bike ride, the return
fifteen miles of which was against 20-30 knot headwinds,
I weighed myself on the supermarket scale and was a
lean and mean 173 pounds (down from 197 a month ago)
and my BP was 109/67. There ain't no way even Chloe
Anderson could cause my BP to raise enough to flunk
that physical.

I'm not a degenerate pill popper to mask symptoms of
a problem like most of the wusses on this group. I'm
a man of action who directly attacks the cause of the
symptoms. I'm gonna live forever at this rate.

S.Simon

Gel coat replacement?
 

"The_navigator©" wrote:
The question is why does someone sign themselves "lady anything"?

Because it bugs sissy boys and mad scientists, like you...

I
wonder why she daidn't respond to your fat comment. Seems to me to be a
clear channel to bit of a nerve there to tweak -or I'm not The_navigator©

Not at all. I've worked out in the gym on and off since 1974. I could
probably stand to lose 5 pounds, maybe. Nothing like the anorexic chic on
your website. For Gawd's sake, please feed her!

LP

P.S. What's up with all this crap with you? I used to think you were a
real nice guy. I sympathized with you over your cat and said you had a nice
boat.

Well, your boat sucks, you murderer! :-)

Gel coat replacement?
 

"Simple Simon" wrote:

Assuming Lady Pilot really does fly commercial aircraft
you have to ask yourself when's the last time you saw
a female commercial pilot who was younger than middle
age and did not look like a bull dyke? I have yet to see
one who is anything but very thick around the middle,
has a butch haircut, facial hair, dried-up complexion,
and heavy cigarette habit all combined with a military
manner unbecoming of a woman.

Neal, I really hope you can continue thinking about me this way. It might
help you with your "loss". How's those therapy sessions working out for
you? Not to mention the blood pressure?

LP (I only have eyes for Capt. Mooron)