When you consider present function of a sailing vessel; NEW is better
than OLD.

Probably the worst advice ever offered here and 100% wrong.
New boats are for suckers, though I'm glad some people buy them.

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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loose floorboards when I posted someone's comments on them?

No, I haven't forgotton what I wrote. You have!

Is it not true that you had to impliment a fix for rattling/loose floor
boards?
YES or NO.

NO.


Regards

Donal - who has a *much* better boat than Bob!
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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When you consider present function of a sailing vessel; NEW is better
than OLD.

Probably the worst advice ever offered here and 100% wrong.
New boats are for suckers, though I'm glad some people buy them.

You just haven't found the right boat yet. If you ever do (which I doubt),
you will understand why everybody else seems to enjoy their boats more than
you.

Have you read Scotty's report? I envy him.

Can you imagine writing a trip report that would make anybody envious?



Regards


Donal
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Is it not true that you had to impliment a fix for rattling/loose floor
boards?
YES or NO.

NO.

SHame on you. This is why builders get away with crap like your boat.


RB

You just haven't found the right boat yet

I hope I never do! That would be pretty dull. I'm only 41, I have no intention
on settling for any single design. If I did, it would not be with one of the
cheapest production boats around. What am I saying? Beneteau IS the cheapest.
And it shows.

RB

Have you read Scotty's report? I envy him.


Bwahahahahahaha!

You envy that a-hole? Oh, okay!

RB

On 29 Oct 2003, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Again, ask anyone who repairs or survey's
boats how Beneteau stacks up.

I have. These include (among serveral others) one who used to sail
and work with Gary Jobson and who is now employed (when not sailing)
by a leading underwriter and who has repeatedly said that, when
fiancially/family-able, he will purchase a new Beneteau exactly
because they are comparatively so well built, outside and inside.

Few people do homework before buying
a boat. If they did Beneteau would have to
improve their game.

For the most part, persons who buy a Beneteau do so precisely becuse
they have done their homework.

he will purchase a new Beneteau exactly
because they are comparatively so well built, outside and inside.

Snore. Again, ask more than one surveyor. Ask yards who do repairs. Ask around.
These boats have a bad rep for a reason, not because someone hates the French!
After 7 years of boat shows, every Beneteau I boarded had build quality errors.
They were as follows:
Loose floors
Gel coat cracks
Doors that wouldn't close or open
Sharp edges in cabinets and other fittings
Saw dust beneath furniture installations
And so on. I'd like to say that 7 years of seeing these boats was just bad
luck, but there are enough of them at my club to prove otherwise. The Oceanis
seem to be the worst of the lot. A fellow on the Pearson list had a First (33?)
and called it a groaner because the whole boat groaned and creeked when sailed
hard. A 39 at my club (new!) has had so many problems that the owner now plans
to sell. Beneteau quality concerns have been echoed in nearly every sailnet
group, more so than any other boat besides Hunter.
Beneteau is well packaged junk. It's designed to fool and does a great job.
Dona's been suckered plane and simple. Call it a troll, or just mean...but it's
the truth. Not much he can do about it since I own a nice C&C, a builder known
for very good quality.
Contact the resident surveyors at BoatMax and Consolidated Shipyards for info
on major work needed on Beneteau yachts FRESH out of the factory!

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Have you read Scotty's report? I envy him.


Bwahahahahahaha!

You envy that a-hole? Oh, okay!

Careful, Bobby. You are supposed to be winning, remember?

The whole point of this discussion is to entertain the group with your
hilarious claims that your 30 year old neglected, slow, cheap, slow,
"Derelict" is better than my nice, fast,shiny,fast new boat.



Regards


Donal
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You envy that a-hole? Oh, okay!

Careful, Bobby. You are supposed to be winning, remember?

Won. It's been over a long time, baby!

RB