Captain Neal, He's da MAN!
 

My Coronado was made in 1971 and is hull number 91

That works out to over 400 boats in four years. JUST
the same pace as the C&C 27.

S.Simon

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message ...
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Everbody who knows anything at all knows the
C&C 27 is a joke of a boat.

It's small, it's lightly built, it uses cheap fittings,

Unlike the Coronado which gets the "cheapest construction" nod from Don Casey:
http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...leid=caseyd017

it's slower than a well-sailed Coronado 27, it isn't

But the Coronado PHRH is 230, while the C&C is 180 for the Mark 3.

even half as seaworthy as a Coronado 27 and I
could go on and on. The poor little C&C 27 was
knocked out of a mold on the cheap as a day
sailer and entry level round the buoys pretend
racer. It has no heritage, it has no class, it has
no real value.

That's not what the review says:
http://www.canyacht.com/onlineExclus...veKeyword=1 2

Another favorable review:
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/reviews/c&c27.htm


Almost 1000 C&C 27s were made in a 12 year run. The Coronado 27 only had a 4 year run
before the company went belly up.

Captain Neal, He's da MAN!
 

Don Casey is a magazine editor HACK who doesn't
know what he's talking about. He's a has-been,
never was, wannabe who wrote because he was
too chicken to live the life of a sailor.
He's NOBODY! If the Coronado 27 is so cheaply
and lightly built tell me why at 26'8" and ten inches
less beam she weighs more than the C&C 27 at 27' 4".

S.Simon


"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message ...
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Everbody who knows anything at all knows the
C&C 27 is a joke of a boat.

It's small, it's lightly built, it uses cheap fittings,

Unlike the Coronado which gets the "cheapest construction" nod from Don Casey:
http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...leid=caseyd017

it's slower than a well-sailed Coronado 27, it isn't

But the Coronado PHRH is 230, while the C&C is 180 for the Mark 3.

even half as seaworthy as a Coronado 27 and I
could go on and on. The poor little C&C 27 was
knocked out of a mold on the cheap as a day
sailer and entry level round the buoys pretend
racer. It has no heritage, it has no class, it has
no real value.

That's not what the review says:
http://www.canyacht.com/onlineExclus...veKeyword=1 2

Another favorable review:
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/reviews/c&c27.htm


Almost 1000 C&C 27s were made in a 12 year run. The Coronado 27 only had a 4 year run
before the company went belly up.

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Mauve cushions that one cannot contrast with the yellow because,
unlike your cheap thin boat, one cannot see right through the topsides
on mine.

Much as I hate to say anything on behalf of Jane. his C&C is 3 times more
boat
than any coronado.
And the worst part of that is that even you know it.

I only know one C & C owner ... and he wants a better boat.

I only know one Coronado owner .... and he seems to be happy with his boat.



Regards


Donal
--

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

And the worst part of that is that even you know it.

I only know one C & C owner ... and he wants a better boat.

Who do you know with a C&C. You can't mean me, since I've made the deal for a
bigger C&C. Same great superior quality. Faster than your boat too!

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

I only know one Coronado owner .... and he seems to be happy with his boat.

A Beneteau owner defends a Coronado owner.

(sniffle!)

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

Who do you suppose mustardseed144 is?

a Neal by-blow?

--=20
katysails
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Kirie Elite 32
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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

Yeah, but the Coronado owner is a fool...

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Mauve cushions that one cannot contrast with the yellow because,
unlike your cheap thin boat, one cannot see right through the topsides
on mine.

Much as I hate to say anything on behalf of Jane. his C&C is 3 times
more
boat
than any coronado.
And the worst part of that is that even you know it.

I only know one C & C owner ... and he wants a better boat.

I only know one Coronado owner .... and he seems to be happy with his
boat.



Regards


Donal
--

Captain Neal, He's da MAN!
 

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:58:31 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote this crap:


My Coronado was made in 1971 and is hull number 91

So your POS is thirty years old?

My sails are worth more than your boat. My comic book collection is
worth ten times what your boat is worth.


Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

....zero bids. With not reserve, does this mean someone can get it for $900?


"Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam" wrote:
Well, yes. It wouldn't work for me, as it's 3000+ miles away,
but this is the epitome of a motivated seller. It's not the
first time this boat's been listed on ebay. Don't know why it
didn't sell the first time.

Because the time has come for this boat go to the landfill?

DSK

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

Touché`

"Donut" wrote

I only know one C & C owner ... and he wants a better boat.

I only know one Coronado owner .... and he seems to be happy with his
boat.

Captain Neal, He's da MAN!
 

Even if he sailed a bathtub, he would out sail your hunter
crap with you at the helm.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:58:31 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote this crap:


My Coronado was made in 1971 and is hull number 91

So your POS is thirty years old?

My sails are worth more than your boat. My comic book collection is
worth ten times what your boat is worth.


Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
And the worst part of that is that even you know it.

I only know one C & C owner ... and he wants a better boat.

Who do you know with a C&C. You can't mean me, since I've made the deal
for a
bigger C&C.

Why?



Regards


Donal
--

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I only know one Coronado owner .... and he seems to be happy with his
boat.

A Beneteau owner defends a Coronado owner.

Are you happy with your boat? ... No! I thought NOT!

Neal's Coronado is worth more than any boat that you have ever owned -
(because he is content with it).




Better luck with your next boat. Will it have a microwave oven?



Regards


Donal
--

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

A Beneteau owner defends a Coronado owner.

Are you happy with your boat? ... No! I thought NOT!

I love my boat and I'm making money with it!

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
A Beneteau owner defends a Coronado owner.

Are you happy with your boat? ... No! I thought NOT!

I love my boat and I'm making money with it!

Please explain. I dare you to.



Regards


Donal
--

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

I love my boat and I'm making money with it!

Please explain. I dare you to.

We paid 16K for her. She'll sell for double that or more. In fact, a boat no
where near her good condition for more than double this past spring.
In addition to that I took out some business people this year who saw fit to
reward me with a gift of cash. Finally, indirectly Alien has led me to two very
nice deals on boats, sold for well above what I paid. It's been a nice year and
to say we sail for free isn't accurate. We're now well ahead of the game. The
same goes for the 34XL. We're paying 25K or more under TMV and so we'll make
money when we trade up/sideways/down.
There you have it!

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I love my boat and I'm making money with it!

Please explain. I dare you to.

We paid 16K for her. She'll sell for double that or more. In fact, a boat
no
where near her good condition for more than double this past spring.
In addition to that I took out some business people this year who saw fit
to
reward me with a gift of cash. Finally, indirectly Alien has led me to two
very
nice deals on boats, sold for well above what I paid. It's been a nice
year and
to say we sail for free isn't accurate. We're now well ahead of the game.
The
same goes for the 34XL. We're paying 25K or more under TMV and so we'll
make
money when we trade up/sideways/down.
There you have it!

So you're not making very much out of it. Bob, you really do think "small".

I've told you before that you need to think "out of the box".
Try to stand back and look at the situation a bit differently. You will
see that you aren't making very much at all. You should be a bit more
ambitious.

Let's put it another way:-
Your life, just like your boats, is a series of stepping stones.
However, each step is too small. You are never going to get very far
unless you try to raise your personal expectations.


Go for it, Bob! Take charge of your own life! Make a decent film!



Regards


Donal
--

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

You are never going to get very far
unless you try to raise your personal expectations.

But my next boat is better and faster than yours. I'm just turning 41. My
stepping stones are part of a learning curve that I enjoy and it outpaces
yours.
The "most" boat I'd ever want would be a new Baltic (or the like) and we'll own
one in the next 6-8 years.

Oh, Donal...I see that you DO care!

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

Your life, just like your boats, is a series of stepping stones.

This makes me wonder if you know what "stepping stone" really means! Everyone's
life is a series of stepping stones. It's called evolution and progression. Yap
all you like about "liking" that Beneteau, but you know it's a cheap boat
compared to many. One day you may have better. Perhaps you're already planning
for a nicer boat one day. If not, then you're missing what the combination of
youth and sailing different boats can offer.
Old age is for settling down with "the" boat.
Now..tell us, my boy, will you ever have a better boat?

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Your life, just like your boats, is a series of stepping stones.

Now..tell us, my boy, will you ever have a better boat?

Probably not. None of the boats that I have looked at are better.

If I upgrade, then I will probably end up with a worse boat.

Now ... you tell us, do you have a goal in life?


Regards


Donal
--

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

No. Not everyone. Case in point... Neal. Just kidding.
But seriously, a life should be a journey. Evolution and
progression are not discrete steps. Rather, they are a
continuous progress, a flow, much like a river to the sea.

If you're 41, you should have figured this out by now.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Your life, just like your boats, is a series of stepping stones.

This makes me wonder if you know what "stepping stone" really means!
Everyone's
life is a series of stepping stones. It's called evolution and
progression. Yap
all you like about "liking" that Beneteau, but you know it's a cheap boat
compared to many. One day you may have better. Perhaps you're already
planning
for a nicer boat one day. If not, then you're missing what the combination
of
youth and sailing different boats can offer.
Old age is for settling down with "the" boat.
Now..tell us, my boy, will you ever have a better boat?

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Your life, just like your boats, is a series of stepping stones.

This makes me wonder if you know what "stepping stone" really means!
Everyone's
life is a series of stepping stones.

Absoutely correct.

However, in your case, the stepping stones seem to be placed very close to
each other.

It's called evolution and progression. Yap
all you like about "liking" that Beneteau, but you know it's a cheap boat
compared to many. One day you may have better. Perhaps you're already
planning
for a nicer boat one day. If not, then you're missing what the combination
of
youth and sailing different boats can offer.
Old age is for settling down with "the" boat.
Now..tell us, my boy, will you ever have a better boat?

I really don't think that I will ever have a better boat. I like speed and
performance. However, I also like comfort. Therein lies my problem.
Every boat that I see that is more comfortable, is also slower.

As you can see, quality doesn't really come into the equation.

I suspect that my next boat will be more "comfortable" than my present boat.
It will also be bigger. I really hope that it will be faster. I'm not
sure that it has been built yet.


On the other hand, your next boat won't be difficult to find. It just needs
to be better than a 1970's C&C 32.




Regards



Donal
--

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

soutely correct.

However, in your case, the stepping stones seem to be placed very close to
each other.

Because my progression is far faster than most. How old are you, Donal? At 41
I'm about to sail my 4th boat, and a nicer one than yours while making a
profit!
People progress at different rates. Only someone as insecure as you would be so
concerned with my "stepping stones."

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

I really don't think that I will ever have a better boat.

Agreed. You probably won't. My new C&C is faster than your boat, nicer looking
and better below as well.

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

As you can see, quality doesn't really come into the equation.


Yes, that much is clear.

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

Now..tell us, my boy, will you ever have a better boat?

Probably not. None of the boats that I have looked at are better.

You need to look a bit harder.

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

Now ... you tell us, do you have a goal in life?


Several, some of which I've already achieved.

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You are never going to get very far
unless you try to raise your personal expectations.

But my next boat is better and faster than yours. I'm just turning 41. My
stepping stones are part of a learning curve that I enjoy and it outpaces
yours.

Your stepping stones do NOT outpace mine.


The "most" boat I'd ever want would be a new Baltic (or the like) and
we'll own
one in the next 6-8 years.

Why don't you decide to own your dream boat within, say, two years?

How much does a Baltic cost? Why can't you get one within two years?

You are 41. You may not know it, but you are at the peak of "achievement"
years.


If you ever want to own a Baltic, then you must go for it NOW.



So far, you have demonstrated that you will accept any old bargain. Let's
face it, you need to raise your expectations! If you want a Baltic, then
tell us that you will own one in two years.


You know that I am giving you good advice..... because...., like everybody
else here, I already have the boat that I want.



Oh, Donal...I see that you DO care!

I do. Honestly, I really do. Save yourself, before it is too late.



Regards


Donal
--

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Now ... you tell us, do you have a goal in life?


Several, some of which I've already achieved.



Tell us.



Regards


Donal
--

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

Several, some of which I've already achieved.



Tell us.

Goal #145
To own a wide variety of sailing vessels from modest to high-end over the next
15 years.

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

But my next boat is better and faster than yours. I'm just turning 41. My
stepping stones are part of a learning curve that I enjoy and it outpaces
yours.

Your stepping stones do NOT outpace mine.

I'm afraid they have. The 34XL is more boat than you own. Faster, fancier and
better built. By the end of next summer I'll have taken two good long cruises.
Meanwhile I've sailed far more boats than you and have inside dope on boats
that you'd have to pay to get!

Sorry,

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

How much does a Baltic cost? Why can't you get one within two years?

The Baltic I want is aprox. 700K on the used market. It doesn't belong on the
LI Sound. Buying one now is a complete waste of a fine boat, given limited time
with my wife in school. But when we move to the Chesapeak, it'll be a good
choice. The Baltic is not our only choice. We're also sailing a far less
expensive Tartan this summer. That's another excellent sailing vessel that is
far better built than your toy.

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

You may not know it, but you are at the peak of "achievement"
years.


Says who? My father wasn't a millionaire until he was 53. He wasn't
dissapointed.

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

If you ever want to own a Baltic, then you must go for it NOW.


At least everyone can see that it's you who's consumed with material things. I
wouldn't buy a Baltic now anymore than I'd buy a snowmobile to use in Queens. I
couldn't even use it enough to make it happy.
You truly don't understand boats at all.

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

Do try and not place yourself outside a well lit and clearly marked harbour
entrance at night until you learn the fundamentals of tides, navigation and
have an inkling about basic operation of your electronics.

Oh Yeah... don't forget the batteries this time either Eh! :-)

CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| But my next boat is better and faster than yours. I'm just turning 41.
My
| stepping stones are part of a learning curve that I enjoy and it
outpaces
| yours.
|
| Your stepping stones do NOT outpace mine.
|
| I'm afraid they have. The 34XL is more boat than you own. Faster, fancier
and
| better built. By the end of next summer I'll have taken two good long
cruises.
| Meanwhile I've sailed far more boats than you and have inside dope on
boats
| that you'd have to pay to get!
|
| Sorry,
|
| RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

Hahahhahahahhahaha. What a loser!

Cheers MC

Bobsprit wrote:



Says who? My father wasn't a millionaire until he was 53. He was
dissapointed by his son.

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

Would that be a Baltic 50 with an 11 foot draft? Right, that's a good boat for the Bay!



"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
How much does a Baltic cost? Why can't you get one within two years?

The Baltic I want is aprox. 700K on the used market. It doesn't belong on the
LI Sound. Buying one now is a complete waste of a fine boat, given limited time
with my wife in school. But when we move to the Chesapeak, it'll be a good
choice. The Baltic is not our only choice. We're also sailing a far less
expensive Tartan this summer. That's another excellent sailing vessel that is
far better built than your toy.

RB

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

Bob on a Baltic 50???

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA....Yeah Sure!

CM

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
| Would that be a Baltic 50 with an 11 foot draft? Right, that's a good
boat for the Bay!
|
|
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| How much does a Baltic cost? Why can't you get one within two years?
|
| The Baltic I want is aprox. 700K on the used market. It doesn't belong
on the
| LI Sound. Buying one now is a complete waste of a fine boat, given
limited time
| with my wife in school. But when we move to the Chesapeak, it'll be a
good
| choice. The Baltic is not our only choice. We're also sailing a far less
| expensive Tartan this summer. That's another excellent sailing vessel
that is
| far better built than your toy.
|
| RB
|
|

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

Do you think it would sink?

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Bob on a Baltic 50???

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA....Yeah Sure!

CM

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
| Would that be a Baltic 50 with an 11 foot draft? Right, that's a good
boat for the Bay!
|
|
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| How much does a Baltic cost? Why can't you get one within two
years?
|
| The Baltic I want is aprox. 700K on the used market. It doesn't belong
on the
| LI Sound. Buying one now is a complete waste of a fine boat, given
limited time
| with my wife in school. But when we move to the Chesapeak, it'll be a
good
| choice. The Baltic is not our only choice. We're also sailing a far
less
| expensive Tartan this summer. That's another excellent sailing vessel
that is
| far better built than your toy.
|
| RB
|
|

Captain Neal, You're an authority!!!
 

R

Bubbles you're nuts

Yup...but I'm haven' a grand time smaking Donal about!

RB