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Bobsprit October 23rd 03 01:55 PM

The Angry Few
 
Here is a list if morons who actually get worked up and ****ed off via this
group, yet come back to get slapped again and again!

Binary Bill-Clearly ****ed at the world, perhaps because he's owns such a
little boat. Current status: Being dragged around daily by me after taking a
serious spanking in the C&C group.

Doug: Like Steve, Doug is a real provider of good sailing discussion. On the
other hand he's forever foul over his lot in life. The man has a trawler. It's
pretty hard to imagine that it was his idea. I can just hear his wife laying
down the law. A Hunter 19 and then a trawler. Isn't that how Hell is described?

Loco-has never (by his own admission) gotten over the ass woopin' he took from
me when he first wandered in here. Another openly frustrated fool who gets
spanked on a regular basis. Owns a good boat, but clearly wants better.
Currently fuming over the fact that I'm getting a boat he wishes he could
have...the C&C 34CXL.

Scotty-Has been quiet as of late, but this is one of the few ****-ants who
actually threatened physical violence on me! Can you imagine? The depths of his
idiocy were brought to 3 dimensional fruition by the boat he chose....A
Siedlemann 30!

Donal-Though he tries to follow the character leads by Mooron and Ozzy, Donal
is unable to hide his anger all of the time. He can be baited again and again
with anything about his boat, which he's clearly tired of. Having heard that I
will soon own a better boat he recently claimed this his was "free!" Well,
that's some kind of excuse anyway. Prior to that

Old Thom-Thom is an odd bird and clearly has some bad days where he rages
against his fading light and the childish manipulations I execute here so
easily. He sees it as a metaphor for his own weakening powers. On better days,
Thom is a likeable fellow.

Steve-MIA as of late. Also got himself dunked in the C&C group. Having the same
sailing dinosaur as Donal makes him equally frustrated at times. The best thing
about Steve is that no matter how mad he got, he'd still provide good sailing
info. I miss him! Come back Shane!

Horvath: Well what do you expect? The man claims to have women in his life and
actually chose a well known poor boat in the Hunter. He has good reason to be
angry. Useless to the group, I'm afraid.

Skitchy: Dispite his claims to own a IP 31, we've never seen it. Some time ago
he asked me for help finding his friend a project boat, which I'm now sure was
actually for him. Clearly this is a frustrated individual and boatless. Another
dingleberry who does little here...and knows it.

The Carrolls: Are they angry...or just incredibly dull? It hardly matters. They
are a non-entity here.

The Winner???
Billy Jane!!! No one, and I mean no one is as openly angry and frustrated as
Binary Bill. I recently goaded the poor toad into claiming he was well off and
practically the inventor of the zipper! He's my all-time favorite after the
late/great Dr. Armpit and Ed Gordon. Honorable mention: Loco.

Capt RB

Donal October 23rd 03 02:57 PM

The Angry Few
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...


Donal-Though he tries to follow the character leads by Mooron and Ozzy,

Donal
is unable to hide his anger all of the time. He can be baited again and

again
with anything about his boat, which he's clearly tired of. Having heard

that I
will soon own a better boat he recently claimed this his was "free!" Well,
that's some kind of excuse anyway. Prior to that


I didn't say that it was "free"! I said that it cost me nothing.


Regards


Donal
--



SAIL LOCO October 23rd 03 04:06 PM

The Angry Few
 
Loco-has never (by his own admission) gotten over the ass woopin' he took
from
me when he first wandered in here.

Admission: You got whipped. I just thought you were a pain in the ass and you
wound up looking like a fool at the time. Remember that was the first time I
let you know that YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BOATS. I was the new guy and you
never forgot how the new guy made you look stupid. ROFLMAO...........
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Bobsprit October 23rd 03 04:51 PM

The Angry Few
 
ROFLMAO...........

Point proven.

RB

Bobsprit October 23rd 03 04:52 PM

The Angry Few
 
nd boats, of course!) than he is, and he
CAN'T STAND THAT!!!

Hmmm...more anger. Not that I expected anything new.

RB

Bobsprit October 23rd 03 04:56 PM

The Angry Few
 
I didn't say that it was "free"! I said that it cost me nothing.

It's a sailing boat, Donal. Enjoy it! Don't answer each and every cristical
view on it. My latest boat is better, but then there are always better boats
and we get was we deserve.
When you deserve more I hope you get it. I even wish this for Binary Jane, who
still owns a starter boat at best.

Capt RB

Donal October 23rd 03 06:42 PM

The Angry Few
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I didn't say that it was "free"! I said that it cost me nothing.

It's a sailing boat, Donal. Enjoy it! Don't answer each and every

cristical
view on it. My latest boat is better


I thought that you still had Alien??



Regards


Donal
--



Donal October 23rd 03 06:44 PM

The Angry Few
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...


Hmmm...more anger. Not that I expected anything new.


You can't get a new boat for the sort of money that you are willing to
spend.




Regards


Donal
--



Bobsprit October 23rd 03 07:08 PM

The Angry Few
 
Hmmm...more anger. Not that I expected anything new.

You can't get a new boat for the sort of money that you are willing to
spend.

But I can get one that will cost me nothing, yet still not be free?

RB

Bobsprit October 23rd 03 07:10 PM

The Angry Few
 
It's a sailing boat, Donal. Enjoy it! Don't answer each and every
cristical
view on it. My latest boat is better


I thought that you still had Alien??

We're only weeks away from closing the deal on the 34XL. We won't actually get
her, nor make closing payment until Dec. of next year. But, barring my death,
she'll be ours!

RB

SkitchNYC October 23rd 03 07:24 PM

The Angry Bob
 
Here is a list if morons who actually get worked up and ****ed off via this
group, yet come back to get slapped again and again!


Skitchy: Dispite his claims to own a IP 31, we've never seen it. Some time
ago
he asked me for help finding his friend a project boat, which I'm now sure
was
actually for him. Clearly this is a frustrated individual and boatless.


A good troll, but to set the record straight, my brother is now the proud owner
of a 1972 Morgan 28, which he will cruise singlehandedly next year first north
for the summer and then south to the Bahamas starting in the spring. A while
ago I asked Bob for help in locating a boat for him, but predictably Bob
suggested one of the boats he is selling at an asking price of about double its
worth. Thanks for the help, Boobs. Chris has crewed a lot for me, and soon
will have sailed his own boat much farther than Bob even pretends to sail.

Bobsprit October 23rd 03 07:34 PM

The Angry Bob
 
A good troll, but to set the record straight,

A VERY good troll!

RB

Donal October 23rd 03 10:16 PM

The Angry Few
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It's a sailing boat, Donal. Enjoy it! Don't answer each and every

cristical
view on it. My latest boat is better


I thought that you still had Alien??

We're only weeks away from closing the deal on the 34XL. We won't actually

get
her, nor make closing payment until Dec. of next year. But, barring my

death,
she'll be ours!


So, you admit that your latest boat is *not* better?



Regards


Donal - in search of the truth.
--




Donal October 23rd 03 10:27 PM

The Angry Few
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Hmmm...more anger. Not that I expected anything new.


You can't get a new boat for the sort of money that you are willing to
spend.

But I can get one that will cost me nothing, yet still not be free?


Once again, you demonstrate that you cannot think "outside the box".

How sad! In other respects, you seem to be quite clever.

Setanta did not cost me a penny, and yet I paid for her. You think that you
are the cleverest person here. I think that you are too stupid to figure it
out. Moreover, I think that Mooron and Oz could both figure it out, if
they set their minds to it.

I know that you won't come up with the correct answer, because it will
expose you for the failure that you are.



Regards


Donal
--




DSK October 23rd 03 11:06 PM

The Angry Bob
 
SkitchNYC wrote:

.... my brother is now the proud owner
of a 1972 Morgan 28, which he will cruise singlehandedly next year first north
for the summer and then south to the Bahamas starting in the spring.


Good choice. How is he outfitting it, what's the approx budget? What engine?
Inquiring minds want to know. I like the older Morgans, the 28 is a pretty good
sailing boat and with it's shoal draft, is an outstanding smallish cruiser for the
Southeast, Gulf, and Bahamas.

There seems to be a big price differential between the M28 and the M30, bigger than
the size or capability difference. I wonder if it's due to the boats looks. I
really like the M34 which is just a stretched 30, and seems to go for the same $$.
Might cost a bit more to keep.


A while
ago I asked Bob for help in locating a boat for him, but predictably Bob
suggested one of the boats he is selling at an asking price of about double its
worth. Thanks for the help, Boobs.


And you expected different? Bubbles is nuts.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Bobsprit October 23rd 03 11:13 PM

The Angry Few
 
I know that you won't come up with the correct answer, because it will
expose you for the failure that you are.

Dummy, I already explained how I paid for my boat, yet I own and sail her for
free. I'm doing the same with the 34XL.

RB

Bobsprit October 23rd 03 11:18 PM

The Angry Few
 
she'll be ours!

So, you admit that your latest boat is *not* better?

My "current" boat, a C&C 32 is a better boat than any first series Beneteau.
It's better built by a siginificant margin and I've been aboard examples of
both. Your boat falls below Catalina in build quality.
The only thing you could do is to sell her and buy a better boat that "might"
be the equal of a C&C. C&C was one of the better production boat builders and
retains a strong reputation shared by few others. Tartan, Pearson, IP, Sabre,
J-Boat and a others are also in there. Beneteau, Catalina, Ranger, O'Day and
Hunter are elswhere on the graph. Not "bad"boats, but a C&C either.
And that's a fact.

RB

Horvath October 24th 03 01:04 AM

The Angry Few
 
On 23 Oct 2003 12:55:40 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this
crap:

Here is a list if morons who actually get worked up and ****ed off via this
group, yet come back to get slapped again and again!


You missed Jon-boy Ganz.



Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.

Horvath October 24th 03 01:06 AM

The Angry Few
 
On 23 Oct 2003 18:10:13 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this
crap:

It's a sailing boat, Donal. Enjoy it! Don't answer each and every

cristical
view on it. My latest boat is better


I thought that you still had Alien??

We're only weeks away from closing the deal on the 34XL. We won't actually get
her, nor make closing payment until Dec. of next year. But, barring my death,
she'll be ours!

RB


DECEMBER OF NEXT YEAR! You don't own it, and can't own it for over a
year? And you're bragging about this?


Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.

Jonathan Ganz October 24th 03 01:51 AM

The Angry Few
 
Why are you bragging about your tits?

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 23 Oct 2003 18:10:13 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this
crap:

It's a sailing boat, Donal. Enjoy it! Don't answer each and every

cristical
view on it. My latest boat is better


I thought that you still had Alien??

We're only weeks away from closing the deal on the 34XL. We won't

actually get
her, nor make closing payment until Dec. of next year. But, barring my

death,
she'll be ours!

RB


DECEMBER OF NEXT YEAR! You don't own it, and can't own it for over a
year? And you're bragging about this?


Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.




Jonathan Ganz October 24th 03 01:52 AM

The Angry Few
 
You're the one who likes abuse... you keep posting and that's
all you get.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 23 Oct 2003 12:55:40 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this
crap:

Here is a list if morons who actually get worked up and ****ed off via

this
group, yet come back to get slapped again and again!


You missed Jon-boy Ganz.



Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.




Bobsprit October 24th 03 02:06 AM

The Angry Few
 
DECEMBER OF NEXT YEAR! You don't own it, and can't own it for over a
year?

This year, dopey. We actually sign off on the boat in early Dec., this year.

RB

The Carrolls October 24th 03 02:23 AM

The Angry Few
 
I got you to dance.
"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Here is a list if morons who actually get worked up and ****ed off via

this
group, yet come back to get slapped again and again!

Binary Bill-Clearly ****ed at the world, perhaps because he's owns such a
little boat. Current status: Being dragged around daily by me after taking

a
serious spanking in the C&C group.

Doug: Like Steve, Doug is a real provider of good sailing discussion. On

the
other hand he's forever foul over his lot in life. The man has a trawler.

It's
pretty hard to imagine that it was his idea. I can just hear his wife

laying
down the law. A Hunter 19 and then a trawler. Isn't that how Hell is

described?

Loco-has never (by his own admission) gotten over the ass woopin' he took

from
me when he first wandered in here. Another openly frustrated fool who gets
spanked on a regular basis. Owns a good boat, but clearly wants better.
Currently fuming over the fact that I'm getting a boat he wishes he could
have...the C&C 34CXL.

Scotty-Has been quiet as of late, but this is one of the few ****-ants who
actually threatened physical violence on me! Can you imagine? The depths

of his
idiocy were brought to 3 dimensional fruition by the boat he chose....A
Siedlemann 30!

Donal-Though he tries to follow the character leads by Mooron and Ozzy,

Donal
is unable to hide his anger all of the time. He can be baited again and

again
with anything about his boat, which he's clearly tired of. Having heard

that I
will soon own a better boat he recently claimed this his was "free!" Well,
that's some kind of excuse anyway. Prior to that

Old Thom-Thom is an odd bird and clearly has some bad days where he rages
against his fading light and the childish manipulations I execute here so
easily. He sees it as a metaphor for his own weakening powers. On better

days,
Thom is a likeable fellow.

Steve-MIA as of late. Also got himself dunked in the C&C group. Having the

same
sailing dinosaur as Donal makes him equally frustrated at times. The best

thing
about Steve is that no matter how mad he got, he'd still provide good

sailing
info. I miss him! Come back Shane!

Horvath: Well what do you expect? The man claims to have women in his life

and
actually chose a well known poor boat in the Hunter. He has good reason to

be
angry. Useless to the group, I'm afraid.

Skitchy: Dispite his claims to own a IP 31, we've never seen it. Some time

ago
he asked me for help finding his friend a project boat, which I'm now sure

was
actually for him. Clearly this is a frustrated individual and boatless.

Another
dingleberry who does little here...and knows it.

The Carrolls: Are they angry...or just incredibly dull? It hardly matters.

They
are a non-entity here.

The Winner???
Billy Jane!!! No one, and I mean no one is as openly angry and frustrated

as
Binary Bill. I recently goaded the poor toad into claiming he was well off

and
practically the inventor of the zipper! He's my all-time favorite after

the
late/great Dr. Armpit and Ed Gordon. Honorable mention: Loco.

Capt RB




The Carrolls October 24th 03 02:26 AM

The Angry Few
 
Horvath, We may have political differences, but on this point I agree fully.
"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 23 Oct 2003 18:10:13 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this
crap:

It's a sailing boat, Donal. Enjoy it! Don't answer each and every

cristical
view on it. My latest boat is better


I thought that you still had Alien??

We're only weeks away from closing the deal on the 34XL. We won't

actually get
her, nor make closing payment until Dec. of next year. But, barring my

death,
she'll be ours!

RB


DECEMBER OF NEXT YEAR! You don't own it, and can't own it for over a
year? And you're bragging about this?


Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.




katysails October 24th 03 03:30 AM

The Angry Few
 


It's what happens when you buy your next boat from Art Van....
(3rd rate furniture store with shady credit lines for those not in the =
States...)
Horvath, We may have political differences, but on this point I agree =
fully.
"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 23 Oct 2003 18:10:13 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this
crap:

It's a sailing boat, Donal. Enjoy it! Don't answer each and every

cristical
view on it. My latest boat is better


I thought that you still had Alien??

We're only weeks away from closing the deal on the 34XL. We won't

actually get
her, nor make closing payment until Dec. of next year. But, barring =

my
death,
she'll be ours!

RB


DECEMBER OF NEXT YEAR! You don't own it, and can't own it for over a
year? And you're bragging about this?


Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.




--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Bobsprit October 24th 03 04:07 AM

The Angry Few
 
I got you to dance.

That's fine, but as always I'm the leader of the band.

Capt RB

SkitchNYC October 25th 03 02:12 AM

The Angry Bob
 
SkitchNYC wrote:

.... my brother is now the proud owner
of a 1972 Morgan 28, which he will cruise singlehandedly next year first

north
for the summer and then south to the Bahamas starting in the spring.


Good choice. How is he outfitting it, what's the approx budget? What engine?
Inquiring minds want to know. I like the older Morgans, the 28 is a pretty
good
sailing boat and with it's shoal draft, is an outstanding smallish cruiser
for the
Southeast, Gulf, and Bahamas.


It is solid and sound and had a Perkins diesel put in in the early 90s. The
bow pulpit needs major work and some things need updating, like old-style
seacock, fix centerboard pivot and crazed hatches, etc. Budget is very low,
as this is just a kid who doesn't know what to do with his life and will spend
a little time wandering in a sailboat. The boat was owned by an old guy who
took it to the Bahamas every year but died recently and we got it from his
daughter. It still has his old log books (including an entry about when he hit
a high tension wire leading to the engine replacement). So it is kept pretty
well with a lot of little tricks already put in for singlehanding.


There seems to be a big price differential between the M28 and the M30,
bigger than
the size or capability difference. I wonder if it's due to the boats looks. I
really like the M34 which is just a stretched 30, and seems to go for the
same $$.
Might cost a bit more to keep.


Don't know too much about other Morgans, as we were shopping by price and not
looking only at Morgans. We did, however, look at an OI 28. It had more in
the way of accomodations, but was a butt ugly little boat, and slow as a snail
I am sure.

A while
ago I asked Bob for help in locating a boat for him, but predictably Bob
suggested one of the boats he is selling at an asking price of about double

its
worth. Thanks for the help, Boobs.


And you expected different?


Not really.


Bobsprit October 25th 03 02:17 AM

The Angry Bob
 
but predictably Bob
suggested one of the boats he is selling at an asking price of about double

its


Which boat was this Skitch?

RB

Scott Vernon October 25th 03 05:01 PM

The Angry Bob
 
'S funny his daughter didn't want to keep his logs. Did she know they were
there?

SV

"SkitchNYC" wrote in message
...
SkitchNYC wrote:

The boat was owned by an old guy who

took it to the Bahamas every year but died recently and we got it from his
daughter. It still has his old log books (including an entry about when

he hit
a high tension wire leading to the engine replacement). So it is kept

pretty
well with a lot of little tricks already put in for singlehanding.





SkitchNYC October 25th 03 08:58 PM

The Angry Bob
 
'S funny his daughter didn't want to keep his logs. Did she know they were
there?


I don't think so. We found them in the boat, with all the other stuff.

DSK October 27th 03 11:32 PM

The Angry Bob
 
SkitchNYC wrote:


It is solid and sound and had a Perkins diesel put in in the early 90s.


heh heh heh didn't the old guy know that you never get your rmoney back out of a
diesel repower?


....The
bow pulpit needs major work and some things need updating, like old-style
seacock, fix centerboard pivot and crazed hatches, etc.


He definitely needs to pay attention to the centerboard pivot & hoisting gear.
After this many decades, the sheaves freeze, winch pawl is shot, etc etc.
Fortunately it's not major bucks but it can try ones patience putting it all back
in order. And it's a royal PITA if it fails out there somewhere.

....Budget is very low,
as this is just a kid who doesn't know what to do with his life and will spend
a little time wandering in a sailboat.


I wonder if he'll find anything else more worth doing..... ;)

The boat was owned by an old guy who
took it to the Bahamas every year but died recently and we got it from his
daughter. It still has his old log books (including an entry about when he hit
a high tension wire leading to the engine replacement). So it is kept pretty
well with a lot of little tricks already put in for singlehanding.


Sounds great. The two greatest little singlehanding tricks I know of are
rollerfurling and learning to dock with a midships line. This boat is small enough
that he could put on single line reefing from the cockpit, too. That'd come in
handy.



Don't know too much about other Morgans, as we were shopping by price and not
looking only at Morgans.


IMHO you chose pretty well.


We did, however, look at an OI 28. It had more in
the way of accomodations, but was a butt ugly little boat, and slow as a snail
I am sure.


Yep. While I don't want to offend my several friends who have OIs of one size or
another, they are not good sailing boats and their much vaunted roominess pales in
comparison with modern designs. We saw a large one (an OI44 ketch originally)
converted to a trawler, with a solid pilothouse, stern platform, work shop, newish
John Deere engine, etc etc. Made a pretty nice cruising rig. Excellent fuel economy
and a lot of cruising capability for the bucks. The real kicker is that it was a
much better looking boat after the conversion!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



SkitchNYC October 28th 03 02:04 AM

The Angry Bob
 
It is solid and sound and had a Perkins diesel put in in the early 90s.

heh heh heh didn't the old guy know that you never get your rmoney back out
of a
diesel repower?


Especially if you die and leave the boat to your daughter.

....The
bow pulpit needs major work and some things need updating, like old-style
seacock, fix centerboard pivot and crazed hatches, etc.


He definitely needs to pay attention to the centerboard pivot & hoisting
gear.
After this many decades, the sheaves freeze, winch pawl is shot, etc etc.
Fortunately it's not major bucks but it can try ones patience putting it all
back
in order. And it's a royal PITA if it fails out there somewhere.


It definitely needs work and he is going to have to replicate the parts as best
as possible, but it is apart and looks pretty simple.

....Budget is very low,
as this is just a kid who doesn't know what to do with his life and will

spend
a little time wandering in a sailboat.


I wonder if he'll find anything else more worth doing..... ;)


I hope not, it is a little vicarious living for me for the moment.

The boat was owned by an old guy who
took it to the Bahamas every year but died recently and we got it from his
daughter. It still has his old log books (including an entry about when he

hit
a high tension wire leading to the engine replacement). So it is kept

pretty
well with a lot of little tricks already put in for singlehanding.


Sounds great. The two greatest little singlehanding tricks I know of are
rollerfurling and learning to dock with a midships line. This boat is small
enough
that he could put on single line reefing from the cockpit, too. That'd come
in
handy.


Already has RF headsail. Believe it or note, the old guy flew a spinnaker
alone. That will come later. Definitely want single line reefing, as well as
a vane and better jackline attachment points.



Don't know too much about other Morgans, as we were shopping by price and

not
looking only at Morgans.


IMHO you chose pretty well. While I don't want to offend my several friends

who have OIs of one size
or
another, they are not good sailing boats and their much vaunted roominess
pales in
comparison with modern designs. We saw a large one (an OI44 ketch originally)
converted to a trawler, with a solid pilothouse, stern platform, work shop,
newish
John Deere engine, etc etc. Made a pretty nice cruising rig. Excellent fuel
economy
and a lot of cruising capability for the bucks. The real kicker is that it
was a
much better looking boat after the conversion!


That is about what they are good for. I can kinda picture it and believe that
it would look good without a mast and with a pilothouse on it. Speaking of
pilothouses, we came across a number of micro PH sailboats from weird makers
during our search - it intrigued us, but they cost too much and we estimated
they would not sail very well.


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