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Steve Zweigart October 21st 03 08:56 PM

Bottom Paint
 
Just bought my first sailboat this year...a 1986 Mac25 which is moored
at Cave Run Lake in Kentucky. Cave Run is one of the cleanest lakes in
the nation. The boat had been in the water for at least three years
before I bought it. When I took it out of the water for the first time
this past weekend, besides a considerable "slime" layer and rust nodules
on the keel, I found what appears to be the original bottom paint fairly
intact.

I'm sure it's time for a repaint job. What is the best type of paint
for a situation such as mine? I don't want to spend $$$ on an ablative
multi-season coating if it's not necessary, nor do I want to paint the
thing any more than is absolutely necessary. Suggestions?

Steve Z.


DSK October 21st 03 09:08 PM

Bottom Paint
 
Steve Zweigart wrote:

Just bought my first sailboat this year...a 1986 Mac25 which is moored
at Cave Run Lake in Kentucky..... ....What is the best type of paint
for a situation such as mine? I don't want to spend $$$ on an ablative
multi-season coating if it's not necessary, nor do I want to paint the
thing any more than is absolutely necessary. Suggestions?


It might be cheaper to buy an old 2nd hand trailer and store the boat out of
the water. Ablative anti-fouling paint is limited in time & works better for
a boat that is underway often. Hard finish antifouling paints are more
expensive. In any event, it would be best to sand off all old bottom pain,
get down to the original gel coat. It would be great idea to refinish that
iron swing keel & replace the cable, too. Normal preventative maintenance.

An option you have is to buy a can of anti-slime additive such as is mixed
with bottom paint, and mix it into cheaper house paint, and slap it on
there. You don't have to worry about barnacles.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Capt. Mooron October 21st 03 10:07 PM

Bottom Paint
 
Try Diaper Cream..... rub it on thick.

CM

"Steve Zweigart" wrote in message
...
| Just bought my first sailboat this year...a 1986 Mac25 which is moored
| at Cave Run Lake in Kentucky. Cave Run is one of the cleanest lakes in
| the nation. The boat had been in the water for at least three years
| before I bought it. When I took it out of the water for the first time
| this past weekend, besides a considerable "slime" layer and rust nodules
| on the keel, I found what appears to be the original bottom paint fairly
| intact.
|
| I'm sure it's time for a repaint job. What is the best type of paint
| for a situation such as mine? I don't want to spend $$$ on an ablative
| multi-season coating if it's not necessary, nor do I want to paint the
| thing any more than is absolutely necessary. Suggestions?
|
| Steve Z.
|



Seahag October 22nd 03 04:46 AM

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DSK wrote:

Steve Zweigart wrote:

Just bought my first sailboat this year...a 1986 Mac25 which is moored
at Cave Run Lake in Kentucky..... ....What is the best type of paint
for a situation such as mine


An option you have is to buy a can of anti-slime additive such as is mixed
with bottom paint, and mix it into cheaper house paint, and slap it on
there.



You *have* turned evil since you got that powerboat!


Seahag




Capt. Mooron October 22nd 03 12:02 PM

Bottom Paint
 

"Seahag" wrote in message

| You *have* turned evil since you got that powerboat!

Doug has been taken by the Dark Side...... ;-)

CM



jlrogers October 22nd 03 01:43 PM

Bottom Paint
 
No wonder your pants stick to your butt.

--
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Try Diaper Cream..... rub it on thick.




DSK October 22nd 03 02:32 PM

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"Seahag" wrote in message

| You *have* turned evil since you got that powerboat!


"Capt. Mooron" wrote:
Doug has been taken by the Dark Side...... ;-)


So, do you feel a chill in the air when I come into the newsgroup?

DSK


DSK October 22nd 03 02:34 PM

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

Try Diaper Cream..... rub it on thick.


jlrogers wrote:

No wonder your pants stick to your butt.


His butt? No, he was talking about his head....

DSK


Capt. Mooron October 22nd 03 02:52 PM

Bottom Paint
 
Nothin sticks to my tight, well muscled butt. My pants just look painted on
because I'm so damn fit, buff, and well proportioned I can wear tight pants
and look good...... not look like you imitating an overstuffed cellulite
sausage.

Now waddle off back to your Lazy Boy and take a big load off those ankles of
yours.

CM


"jlrogers" wrote in message
. ..
| No wonder your pants stick to your butt.
|
| --
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Try Diaper Cream..... rub it on thick.
|
|



Capt. Mooron October 22nd 03 02:57 PM

Bottom Paint
 

"DSK" wrote in message
...
| "Seahag" wrote in message
|
| | You *have* turned evil since you got that powerboat!
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote:
| Doug has been taken by the Dark Side...... ;-)
|
| So, do you feel a chill in the air when I come into the newsgroup?

I've always attributed that to the waft from my high test rum but now that
you mention it....

Have you learned to balance a beer on your gut so you can steer and gun the
throttle at the same time?

CM



Bobsprit October 22nd 03 03:06 PM

Bottom Paint
 
Now waddle off back to your Lazy Boy and take a big load off those ankles of
yours.

Leave his lover out of this. What did he do to you?

RB

Capt. Mooron October 22nd 03 03:12 PM

Bottom Paint
 

"DSK" wrote in message
...
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote:
|
| Try Diaper Cream..... rub it on thick.
|
| jlrogers wrote:
|
| No wonder your pants stick to your butt.
|
| His butt? No, he was talking about his head....

Look here Doug Vader.... when I want your opinion I'll tell you what it is!

Obi Won Mooron
"May the Farce be with you"



SAIL LOCO October 22nd 03 04:44 PM

Bottom Paint
 
I don't want to spend $$$ on an ablative
multi-season coating if it's not necessary, nor do I want to paint the
thing any more than is absolutely necessary. Suggestions?

If a can of better paint is "expensive" maybe you shouldn't have bought the
boat. A can of ablative paint may cost a little more than some other type but
it won't build up since it washes away and you will save money in the long run
because you won't be paying someone to remove 5 layers of paint someday.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Simple Simon October 22nd 03 05:38 PM

Bottom Paint
 
More like the smell of a fart than any chill!

S.Simon


"DSK" wrote in message ...
So, do you feel a chill in the air when I come into the newsgroup?

DSK




Steve Zweigart October 22nd 03 05:40 PM

Bottom Paint
 
Point is not the expense of the paint, but rather the necessity. I am
finding very little information regarding whether ablative paints are
necessary for freshwater applications. Being new to boating, I don't
know what my options are, and am trying to find out any way I can. I
sure as heck don't want to get into yearly painting cycles, if I can
help it. If an ablative is indicated, I want the best, longest-lasting
multi-season I can get.

SAIL LOCO wrote:
I don't want to spend $$$ on an ablative
multi-season coating if it's not necessary, nor do I want to paint the
thing any more than is absolutely necessary. Suggestions?

If a can of better paint is "expensive" maybe you shouldn't have bought the
boat. A can of ablative paint may cost a little more than some other type but
it won't build up since it washes away and you will save money in the long run
because you won't be paying someone to remove 5 layers of paint someday.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport



Simple Simon October 22nd 03 05:40 PM

Bottom Paint
 
Stop it! You'll get Ganz all hot and bothered.

S.Simon


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
Nothin sticks to my tight, well muscled butt. My pants just look painted on
because I'm so damn fit, buff, and well proportioned I can wear tight pants
and look good......




Vito October 22nd 03 05:42 PM

Bottom Paint
 
"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

Have you learned to balance a beer on your gut so you can steer and gun the
throttle at the same time?


An old trucker was reminiscing to pass the miles. "In the old days it
took a man to drive a truck cuz of the "crash box" - one foot on the
clutch the other on the throttle, one hand on the gear lever, the other
on the "brownie", ahh those were the days!" A lady driver promptly asked
"Oh Ya! then what 'nhell did you steer with?" "Like I said," sez he,
"took a man to drive a truck ..." Maybe the same applies here (c:

Lady Pilot October 22nd 03 06:46 PM

Bottom Paint
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

Nothin sticks to my tight, well muscled butt. My pants just look

painted on
because I'm so damn fit, buff, and well proportioned I can wear

tight pants
and look good...... not look like you imitating an overstuffed

cellulite
sausage.


I find asa sooo informative! Heheheee.

LP



Jonathan Ganz October 22nd 03 07:06 PM

Bottom Paint
 
Careful, Horass is getting all hot and showing his tits again.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Nothin sticks to my tight, well muscled butt. My pants just look painted

on
because I'm so damn fit, buff, and well proportioned I can wear tight

pants
and look good...... not look like you imitating an overstuffed cellulite
sausage.

Now waddle off back to your Lazy Boy and take a big load off those ankles

of
yours.

CM


"jlrogers" wrote in message
. ..
| No wonder your pants stick to your butt.
|
| --
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Try Diaper Cream..... rub it on thick.
|
|





Jonathan Ganz October 22nd 03 07:07 PM

Bottom Paint
 
Sorry, but I like women... but feel free to indulge yourself.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Stop it! You'll get Ganz all hot and bothered.

S.Simon


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message

...
Nothin sticks to my tight, well muscled butt. My pants just look painted

on
because I'm so damn fit, buff, and well proportioned I can wear tight

pants
and look good......






katysails October 22nd 03 11:06 PM

Bottom Paint
 
I'm so damn fit, buff, and well proportioned I can wear tight pants
and look good

Some might think you should back this up with proof....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


katysails October 22nd 03 11:07 PM

Bottom Paint
 
So, do you feel a chill in the air when I come into the newsgroup?

DSK

No, but the heavy breathing could be a sugn you need an inhaler....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Donal October 22nd 03 11:10 PM

Bottom Paint
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Sorry, but I like women... but feel free to indulge yourself.

Did you bend over before you wrote that?




Regards


Donal
--




SAIL LOCO October 22nd 03 11:20 PM

Bottom Paint
 
,Point is not the expense of the paint, but rather the necessity. I am
finding very little information regarding whether ablative paints are
necessary for freshwater applications.

In fresh water you could get away with VC17 but it's a hard vinyl and it's my
understanding that in fresh water hard growth is not the problem ... grass is.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Bobsprit October 22nd 03 11:47 PM

Bottom Paint
 
Did you bend over before you wrote that?

It was only a matter of time before Donal would type this sort of thing.

RB

Capt. Mooron October 23rd 03 12:03 AM

Bottom Paint
 

"katysails" wrote in message

Some might think you should back this up with proof....

Do you miss Jax that much already? ;-)

CM



Horvath October 23rd 03 12:15 AM

Bottom Paint
 
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:52:44 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote this crap:

Nothin sticks to my tight, well muscled butt. My pants just look painted on
because I'm so damn fit, buff, and well proportioned I can wear tight pants
and look good.


I don't wear pants, and I look better than you.


Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.

Capt. Mooron October 23rd 03 12:17 AM

Bottom Paint
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| Did you bend over before you wrote that?
|
| It was only a matter of time before Donal would type this sort of thing.

Sometimes you just take a kick at the cat and hope nobody notices.

CM



Jonathan Ganz October 23rd 03 01:17 AM

Bottom Paint
 
I think he must be drunk, because I don't understand him.
Maybe he's not drunk, but rather is bent over with Horass
behind him?

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Did you bend over before you wrote that?

It was only a matter of time before Donal would type this sort of thing.

RB




Jonathan Ganz October 23rd 03 01:18 AM

Bottom Paint
 
Thanks for admitting you wear a dress.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
I don't wear pants, and I look better than you.


Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.




katysails October 23rd 03 01:49 AM

Bottom Paint
 
in fresh water hard growth is not the problem ... grass is.

zebra mussels...algae build up (slime)...VC 17 works great....slap a new =
coat on every spring....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


katysails October 23rd 03 01:50 AM

Bottom Paint
 
Do you miss Jax that much already? ;-)

CM

You're implying you look like Jax? (she runs and gags...) How =
disappointing....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Horvath October 23rd 03 12:09 PM

Bottom Paint
 
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:18:35 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Thanks for admitting you wear a dress.


I've never worn a dress. Do you always respond to guys that you think
wear dresses?

This thread is "Bottom Paint," take your hands out of your pocket
when you read it.


"Horvath" wrote in message
...
I don't wear pants, and I look better than you.


Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.

Jonathan Ganz October 23rd 03 07:00 PM

Bottom Paint
 
You said, "I don't wear pants...."

Typically, that means you either run around 1/2 naked,
which even for you, even if it would be revolting, isn't
likely, so if you don't wear pants, you must wear a
dress.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you wear a slip? Do you deny
that you make phone calls?

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:18:35 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Thanks for admitting you wear a dress.


I've never worn a dress. Do you always respond to guys that you think
wear dresses?

This thread is "Bottom Paint," take your hands out of your pocket
when you read it.


"Horvath" wrote in message
...
I don't wear pants, and I look better than you.


Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.





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