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JR October 15th 03 02:50 PM

More questions for lay-up time: standing rigging, cover
 
It's me again. Thanks for the responses on the continuous furling line. How
about the standing rigging when the boat is stored mast up? Should I take
off the tension by a few turns? Not enough to let the mast sway but say 5-6
turns? What's the consensus?

Oh, how about covering the boat? Is it necessary? While looking around the
yard it seems most do not.

Ryan



Martin Baxter October 15th 03 05:09 PM

More questions for lay-up time: standing rigging, cover
 
JR wrote:

It's me again. Thanks for the responses on the continuous furling line. How
about the standing rigging when the boat is stored mast up? Should I take
off the tension by a few turns? Not enough to let the mast sway but say 5-6
turns? What's the consensus?

Oh, how about covering the boat? Is it necessary? While looking around the
yard it seems most do not.

Ryan


I wouldn't worry about the rigging tension, remember aluminum has a
greater coefficient of expansion than steel, so your mast will shrink
proportionately more than the shrouds and stays and you will have less
tension as the weather gets colder.

As for covering, whether you have snow or not I think it's always a good
idea to cover when not in use, protects your brightwork from UV and your
metal bits from the various corrosives to be found in the atmosphere
from time to time.

Cheers
Marty

Jonathan Ganz October 15th 03 06:41 PM

More questions for lay-up time: standing rigging, cover
 
Leave the tension as it is. You're not going to add anything to
the storage life that way.

I don't like covering a boat... tend to get mold. Air circulating
keeps things fresher.

"JR" wrote in message
m...
It's me again. Thanks for the responses on the continuous furling line.

How
about the standing rigging when the boat is stored mast up? Should I take
off the tension by a few turns? Not enough to let the mast sway but say

5-6
turns? What's the consensus?

Oh, how about covering the boat? Is it necessary? While looking around the
yard it seems most do not.

Ryan





Martin Baxter October 15th 03 07:11 PM

More questions for lay-up time: standing rigging, cover
 
Jonathan Ganz wrote:



I don't like covering a boat... tend to get mold. Air circulating
keeps things fresher.


Jon:

I guess it depends on the local climate, if theres gonna be snow and
ice, covering is probabably
a good idea. Snow in the cockpit will pack the drains and turn to ice,
allowing the possibility of
a great deal of wieght from water biuld up in the spring when it rains
but doesn't get warm enough to
thaw the drains during the day, then at night the whole lot can freeze
up and maybe be a worse problem
the next day ....

Cheers
Marty

Donal October 15th 03 11:26 PM

More questions for lay-up time: standing rigging, cover
 

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
I guess it depends on the local climate, if theres gonna be snow and
ice, covering is probabably
a good idea. Snow in the cockpit will pack the drains and turn to ice,
allowing the possibility of
a great deal of wieght from water biuld up in the spring when it rains
but doesn't get warm enough to
thaw the drains during the day, then at night the whole lot can freeze
up and maybe be a worse problem
the next day ....


I agree that a cover is a good idea, however, I think that ventilation a
necessity.


It probably depends on the local climate. Last year I left two ports a bit
open. No rain got in, and for the first time ever, I got no mould.


At a recent boat show, I saw a solar powered ventilator. My next boat
will have one.



Regards


Donal
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katysails October 16th 03 12:04 AM

More questions for lay-up time: standing rigging, cover
 
Oh, how about covering the boat? Is it necessary? While looking around =
the
yard it seems most do not.

Everyone here tarps...keeps the ice and water out of cracks that cause =
leaks down the line...also protects the varnish from winter wind and ice =
ravage...keeps ice out of winches, etc. Those that don't tarp or shrink =
wrap (which is another whole set of problems) have crummy looking =
topsides....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


katysails October 16th 03 12:07 AM

More questions for lay-up time: standing rigging, cover
 
I don't like covering a boat... tend to get mold. Air circulating
keeps things fresher.

Tarpong doesn't stop air flow. Shrink-wrapping does. Get Sta-Dry or =
DampRid and boxes of baking soda. We've never had mold or mildew.

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Simple Simon October 16th 03 12:22 AM

More questions for lay-up time: standing rigging, cover
 

"katysails" wrote in message ...
Oh, how about covering the boat? Is it necessary? While looking around the
yard it seems most do not.

Everyone here tarps...keeps the ice and water out of cracks that cause leaks down the line...also protects the varnish from winter
wind and ice ravage...keeps ice out of winches, etc. Those that don't tarp or shrink wrap (which is another whole set of problems)
have crummy looking topsides....

How pathetic that most wear up there comes from storage!

Doesn't that tell you something awful about you silly northerners
not being sailors at all?

S.Simon

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Jonathan Ganz October 16th 03 01:33 AM

More questions for lay-up time: standing rigging, cover
 
Ah yes... of course, I live in a more civilized sailing area...
no snow, no ice, except in drinks.

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Jonathan Ganz wrote:



I don't like covering a boat... tend to get mold. Air circulating
keeps things fresher.


Jon:

I guess it depends on the local climate, if theres gonna be snow and
ice, covering is probabably
a good idea. Snow in the cockpit will pack the drains and turn to ice,
allowing the possibility of
a great deal of wieght from water biuld up in the spring when it rains
but doesn't get warm enough to
thaw the drains during the day, then at night the whole lot can freeze
up and maybe be a worse problem
the next day ....

Cheers
Marty




DSK October 17th 03 03:13 PM

More questions for lay-up time: standing rigging, cover
 
Donal wrote:


At a recent boat show, I saw a solar powered ventilator. My next boat
will have one.


Why not put one in your current boat? It's easy. I've put in three on three
different boats; one went in the tugboat head earlier this year and I am
planning on putting in two more to circulate air in the rest of the boat. One
issue for use at northern latitudes is that you might want to wire it for 12V
as well as the solar panel & battery. On cloudy days down here, it won't run
all the time. Up north I bet it would run even less. But even when the fan is
not powered, some air is still being circulated.

I agree about not slacking any standing rigging... maybe the backstay if you
keep it tight enough for sailing.

Definitely cover the boat, but do it properly. The cover should be well enough
supported & secured so that it will neither form puddles nor blow loose. There
must be a large enough hooded opening for ventilation. It is a bit of work but
it aint' rocket science.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



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