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Simon's spar is even stronger because of the bend!
That's right, folks! The neutral axis for tension and compression due to bending has been moved off center, when stressed, more of the boom is in compression rather than tension. The mid center joint means nothing with such a clever and knowledgeable repair! Don't believe me eh? Well check on the design of bridges - why are the spans arched? Why do arches work for concrete? Concrete or stone block? Why are engineered beams arched? Press stressed arches are used extensively, they put the material in the arch more into compression rather than tension. Only a REAL sailor would know this!! (Look at the undersides of decks of old wooden ships - it's all arched too!!!) Once again, the Simple one baits and hooks you all! He has proven many a time who the simple ones really are! I hope Bobsprit didn't get heart pangs from posting his silly web pictures. Good job Simon, as always! |
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Simon's spar is even stronger because of the bend!
That's right, folks! The neutral axis for tension and compression due to bending has been moved off center, when stressed, more of the boom is in compression rather than tension. The mid center joint means nothing with such a clever and knowledgeable repair! Excuse me but I believe you are wrong because of the direction the boom is bent. For it to be "stronger" it would have to be arched up in the middle away from the pull of the mainsheet and vang. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" Trains are a winter sport |
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aah ahaha ahahah haaah haaaaa!!!!
Caught ya! It's not a loose footed main, there's a rope bolt! The force is from the sail distributed along the length of the boom. The boom keeps the sail from pulling up, that's right!, pulling up!! The forces of the mainsheet in the downward direction are minimal and occur at a point, not along the boom. The force of the vang, at best only 1/2 downward are on the front portion of the boom. Simon has done well. "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... Simon's spar is even stronger because of the bend! That's right, folks! The neutral axis for tension and compression due to bending has been moved off center, when stressed, more of the boom is in compression rather than tension. The mid center joint means nothing with such a clever and knowledgeable repair! Excuse me but I believe you are wrong because of the direction the boom is bent. For it to be "stronger" it would have to be arched up in the middle away from the pull of the mainsheet and vang. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" Trains are a winter sport |
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Sidney Greenstreet wrote:
It's not a loose footed main, there's a rope bolt! The force is from the sail distributed along the length of the boom. The boom keeps the sail from pulling up, that's right!, pulling up!! The forces of the mainsheet in the downward direction are minimal and occur at a point, not along the boom. The force of the vang, at best only 1/2 downward are on the front portion of the boom. It's a shelf foot. If my understanding of a shelf foot is correct, the forces from sail are on the ends of the boom, similar to a loose foot. Since the mainsheet is mid-boom, and since the boom bends downwards in the middle, your arch theory is wrong. -- Wally www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light. |
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Not so!
Check again. "Wally" wrote in message ... Sidney Greenstreet wrote: It's not a loose footed main, there's a rope bolt! The force is from the sail distributed along the length of the boom. The boom keeps the sail from pulling up, that's right!, pulling up!! The forces of the mainsheet in the downward direction are minimal and occur at a point, not along the boom. The force of the vang, at best only 1/2 downward are on the front portion of the boom. It's a shelf foot. If my understanding of a shelf foot is correct, the forces from sail are on the ends of the boom, similar to a loose foot. Since the mainsheet is mid-boom, and since the boom bends downwards in the middle, your arch theory is wrong. -- Wally www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light. |
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SG,
You better not say anymore until You learn about a shelf footed main. You are WRONG. The sail provides NO upward force at all in the mid-section of the main. A Shelf Main is a free footed sail in all respects. The shelf provides nothing to the TRIM Ole Thom |
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Thom Stewart wrote:
A Shelf Main is a free footed sail in all respects. The shelf provides nothing to the TRIM So, what is the shelf for? I can see what it is, but not what purpose it serves. -- Wally www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light. |
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It collects rainwater.
Cheers MC Wally wrote: Thom Stewart wrote: A Shelf Main is a free footed sail in all respects. The shelf provides nothing to the TRIM So, what is the shelf for? I can see what it is, but not what purpose it serves. -- Wally www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light. |
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Good Lord. More in compression due to the bend? Is that why the crack is
so wide at the bottom? Cheers MC Sidney Greenstreet wrote: Simon's spar is even stronger because of the bend! That's right, folks! The neutral axis for tension and compression due to bending has been moved off center, when stressed, more of the boom is in compression rather than tension. The mid center joint means nothing with such a clever and knowledgeable repair! Don't believe me eh? Well check on the design of bridges - why are the spans arched? Why do arches work for concrete? Concrete or stone block? Why are engineered beams arched? Press stressed arches are used extensively, they put the material in the arch more into compression rather than tension. Only a REAL sailor would know this!! (Look at the undersides of decks of old wooden ships - it's all arched too!!!) Once again, the Simple one baits and hooks you all! He has proven many a time who the simple ones really are! I hope Bobsprit didn't get heart pangs from posting his silly web pictures. Good job Simon, as always! |