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Bertie the Bunyip September 23rd 03 09:29 PM

Are the Nine Virtues supported in the Sagas?
 
(Doug Freyburger) wrote in
om:

Nik wrote:

That is the question.


Well, the Nine Virtues are a modern attempt at distilling
the Eddas and Sagas into a small list of principles. So
if the Nine Virtues are well crafted, they should reflect
the lessons of the Sagas and Eddas.


So, when you gonna denounce Djirkie for being a racist, nazi boy?

Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip September 25th 03 01:59 AM

Are the Nine Virtues supported in the Sagas?
 
(Doug Freyburger) wrote in
m:

Nik wrote:
Dirk Bruere wrote:

True, but just because there are Nine Worlds does not
mean there exist only Nine Virtues. It's a bit like
Newton claiming a mystical seven colours in the spectrum
by adding Indigo.


The alleged colour "Indigo"


Why is "indigo" an alleged color? Colors have two sources
of definition:

1) If you eye can tell the difference, it can be called a
new color. Go lipstick shopping with your wife some time
and you'll see that even if *your* eye can't tell them
apart, as long as *hers* can that qualifies, too.

2) If the language and culture support it, it qualifies.

So "dusty rose" and "chartreuse" are colors, as is "indigo".

But there are also words that indicate color that don't have
any appearent source. Indigo is the shade of an ink made
from a specific plant, chartruese is the color of a revolting
tasting liquer, dusty rose is from a breed of flowers. On
this scale, I wonder if the word "orange" was used before the
fruit was known to English speakers.

Compare with red, yellow, green, blue, white, black and gray
with are called "primary colors" in lists with some or all of
them as members.

Now consider that modern English has spring, summer, autumn
and winter, but Old Norse only had summer and winter.


that's becuase they were stupid.


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip September 25th 03 02:29 AM

Are the Nine Virtues supported in the Sagas?
 
Nik wrote in
:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:59:18 +0200, mark lothschütz
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 07:18:47 +1200, Nik
wrote:

So are you, rephrased, a Thelemite or a Heathen?


I am a heathen, but I also do like Crowley's work. That's all.
Some of my best frieds are christians and I do not have a problem with
that as long as they are not trying to talk me into their beliefs. Some
other good friends of mine are muslims and same here; I also know some
buddhists and two hindus - and same thing here as well.
So tolerance is the word here. They respect me being a heathen and I
respect them being whatever.

Yes, this is an asatru/heathen newsgroup, but that does not make it
offensive when I use a sig that is not explicitly asatru, does it? I use
this sig globally (in all newsgroups I post in). But if anyone finds
this offensive I will switch it off.


I'm not offended by it, I just think that its in strong contradiction
with the Havamal.

It is always up to you, of course, but it would seem that you're in
two minds.


Hey Njiky, why don't you explain why you lied

Abot me being Roger Williams?

About me being TOSsed from any ISP at all?

About me claiming I was jewish?


Well nazi boy?

Evade evade evade.

Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip September 25th 03 02:30 AM

Are the Nine Virtues supported in the Sagas?
 
Nik wrote in
:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:49:19 +0200, mark lothschütz
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:16:21 +1200, Nik
wrote:

--
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. (Aleister Crowley)

Are you Asatru or Satanist?


Guess you are one of those who think of Crowley as a Satanist, but this
is bull****. He has never been Satanist and neither have I. All that
Crowley is saying is "Mind over Matter".
That has nothing to do with Asatru, but it is not flase therfore.


"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" is NOT Asatru.

So are you, rephrased, a Thelemite or a Heathen?



We know what you are.

A liar.


Bertie

Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip September 25th 03 09:18 AM

Are the Nine Virtues supported in the Sagas?
 
The Lord alerted my mind to the presence of this EVIL article by Bertie
the Bunyip, and I thusly replied:

(Doug Freyburger) wrote in
m:

Nik wrote:
Dirk Bruere wrote:

True, but just because there are Nine Worlds does not
mean there exist only Nine Virtues. It's a bit like
Newton claiming a mystical seven colours in the spectrum by adding
Indigo.

The alleged colour "Indigo"


Why is "indigo" an alleged color? Colors have two sources
of definition:

1) If you eye can tell the difference, it can be called a
new color. Go lipstick shopping with your wife some time
and you'll see that even if *your* eye can't tell them
apart, as long as *hers* can that qualifies, too.

2) If the language and culture support it, it qualifies.

So "dusty rose" and "chartreuse" are colors, as is "indigo".

But there are also words that indicate color that don't have
any appearent source. Indigo is the shade of an ink made
from a specific plant, chartruese is the color of a revolting
tasting liquer, dusty rose is from a breed of flowers. On
this scale, I wonder if the word "orange" was used before the
fruit was known to English speakers.

Compare with red, yellow, green, blue, white, black and gray
with are called "primary colors" in lists with some or all of
them as members.

Now consider that modern English has spring, summer, autumn
and winter, but Old Norse only had summer and winter.


that's becuase they were stupid.


Which group is this originally from?

--
The Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip

Smiting Revenge Against Sinful Usenet Users Since 1874
"My little finger shall be thicker than my father's loins" - Kings 12:10

Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip September 25th 03 09:18 AM

Are the Nine Virtues supported in the Sagas?
 
The Lord alerted my mind to the presence of this EVIL article by Bertie
the Bunyip, and I thusly replied:

Nik wrote in
:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:59:18 +0200, mark lothschütz
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 07:18:47 +1200, Nik
wrote:

So are you, rephrased, a Thelemite or a Heathen?


I am a heathen, but I also do like Crowley's work. That's all.
Some of my best frieds are christians and I do not have a problem with
that as long as they are not trying to talk me into their beliefs. Some
other good friends of mine are muslims and same here; I also know some
buddhists and two hindus - and same thing here as well.
So tolerance is the word here. They respect me being a heathen and I
respect them being whatever.

Yes, this is an asatru/heathen newsgroup, but that does not make it
offensive when I use a sig that is not explicitly asatru, does it? I
use this sig globally (in all newsgroups I post in). But if anyone
finds this offensive I will switch it off.


I'm not offended by it, I just think that its in strong contradiction
with the Havamal.

It is always up to you, of course, but it would seem that you're in two
minds.


Hey Njiky, why don't you explain why you lied

Abot me being Roger Williams?

About me being TOSsed from any ISP at all?

About me claiming I was jewish?


Well nazi boy?

Evade evade evade.


There's something wrong with him, I think.

--
The Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip

Smiting Revenge Against Sinful Usenet Users Since 1874
"My little finger shall be thicker than my father's loins" - Kings 12:10

Bertie the Bunyip September 27th 03 06:11 AM

Are the Nine Virtues supported in the Sagas?
 
satan (Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip) wrote
in s.com:

The Lord alerted my mind to the presence of this EVIL article by Bertie
the Bunyip, and I thusly replied:

Nik wrote in
:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:59:18 +0200, mark lothschütz
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 07:18:47 +1200, Nik
wrote:

So are you, rephrased, a Thelemite or a Heathen?


I am a heathen, but I also do like Crowley's work. That's all.
Some of my best frieds are christians and I do not have a problem with
that as long as they are not trying to talk me into their beliefs. Some
other good friends of mine are muslims and same here; I also know some
buddhists and two hindus - and same thing here as well.
So tolerance is the word here. They respect me being a heathen and I
respect them being whatever.

Yes, this is an asatru/heathen newsgroup, but that does not make it
offensive when I use a sig that is not explicitly asatru, does it? I
use this sig globally (in all newsgroups I post in). But if anyone
finds this offensive I will switch it off.

I'm not offended by it, I just think that its in strong contradiction
with the Havamal.

It is always up to you, of course, but it would seem that you're in two
minds.


Hey Njiky, why don't you explain why you lied

Abot me being Roger Williams?

About me being TOSsed from any ISP at all?

About me claiming I was jewish?


Well nazi boy?

Evade evade evade.


There's something wrong with him, I think.


More than one thing, I suspect.


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip September 27th 03 06:38 AM

Are the Nine Virtues supported in the Sagas?
 
(Doug Freyburger) wrote in
om:

Dirk Bruere wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:

Well, the Nine Virtues are a modern attempt at distilling
the Eddas and Sagas into a small list of principles. So
if the Nine Virtues are well crafted, they should reflect
the lessons of the Sagas and Eddas.

...
One of the reasons that there are several alternate versions
of the Nive Virtues is there are more than nine general
lessons to be learned from the Lore. So the choice of the
Nine show the choser's biases.


So name the virtue, and you'll generally be able to find
someone in the Lore living up to that standard and doing
well. You'll also be able to find someone brought up as a
bad example and what happened to them, also.


So, any suggestions for a tenth?


Teamwork. Being able to get along with folks to pursue a common
goal is better than each acting on his own with no shared view.



Snort!


Sounds like a good ralying cry to me!

Bertie

Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip September 27th 03 08:10 AM

Are the Nine Virtues supported in the Sagas?
 
The Lord alerted my mind to the presence of this EVIL article by Bertie
the Bunyip, and I thusly replied:

satan (Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip)
wrote in s.com:

The Lord alerted my mind to the presence of this EVIL article by Bertie
the Bunyip, and I thusly replied:

Nik wrote in
:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:59:18 +0200, mark lothschütz
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 07:18:47 +1200, Nik
wrote:

So are you, rephrased, a Thelemite or a Heathen?


I am a heathen, but I also do like Crowley's work. That's all.
Some of my best frieds are christians and I do not have a problem
with that as long as they are not trying to talk me into their
beliefs. Some other good friends of mine are muslims and same here; I
also know some buddhists and two hindus - and same thing here as
well. So tolerance is the word here. They respect me being a heathen
and I respect them being whatever.

Yes, this is an asatru/heathen newsgroup, but that does not make it
offensive when I use a sig that is not explicitly asatru, does it? I
use this sig globally (in all newsgroups I post in). But if anyone
finds this offensive I will switch it off.

I'm not offended by it, I just think that its in strong contradiction
with the Havamal.

It is always up to you, of course, but it would seem that you're in
two minds.

Hey Njiky, why don't you explain why you lied

Abot me being Roger Williams?

About me being TOSsed from any ISP at all?

About me claiming I was jewish?


Well nazi boy?

Evade evade evade.


There's something wrong with him, I think.


More than one thing, I suspect.


It's all true.

--
The Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip

Smiting Revenge Against Sinful Usenet Users Since 1874
"My little finger shall be thicker than my father's loins" - Kings 12:10

Bertie the Bunyip October 3rd 03 08:54 AM

Are the Nine Virtues supported in the Sagas?
 
satan (Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip) wrote in message ws.com...
The Lord alerted my mind to the presence of this EVIL article by Bertie
the Bunyip, and I thusly replied:

satan (Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip)
wrote in s.com:

The Lord alerted my mind to the presence of this EVIL article by Bertie
the Bunyip, and I thusly replied:

Nik wrote in
:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:59:18 +0200, mark lothschütz
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 07:18:47 +1200, Nik
wrote:

So are you, rephrased, a Thelemite or a Heathen?


I am a heathen, but I also do like Crowley's work. That's all.
Some of my best frieds are christians and I do not have a problem
with that as long as they are not trying to talk me into their
beliefs. Some other good friends of mine are muslims and same here; I
also know some buddhists and two hindus - and same thing here as
well. So tolerance is the word here. They respect me being a heathen
and I respect them being whatever.

Yes, this is an asatru/heathen newsgroup, but that does not make it
offensive when I use a sig that is not explicitly asatru, does it? I
use this sig globally (in all newsgroups I post in). But if anyone
finds this offensive I will switch it off.

I'm not offended by it, I just think that its in strong contradiction
with the Havamal.

It is always up to you, of course, but it would seem that you're in
two minds.

Hey Njiky, why don't you explain why you lied

Abot me being Roger Williams?

About me being TOSsed from any ISP at all?

About me claiming I was jewish?


Well nazi boy?

Evade evade evade.

There's something wrong with him, I think.


More than one thing, I suspect.


It's all true.



Absolutely.

Bertie


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