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Donal September 16th 03 12:55 AM

Fun in the lock!
 
A couple of weeks ago I was in a marina that had a locked entrance. The
lock was small (4-6 boats), and there was hardly any wind.

Coincidentally, a customer, who has a 40 ft power boat was visiting the same
marina. On the Sunday morning I noticed that he was standing on his
flybridge alone. I wandered over to his boat and went aboard.

He told me that he was watching the "fun" in the lock. He was moored no
more than 100ft from the lock, with a view straight in. He said that nearly
every boat that went in was getting into difficulties.

We chatted for a few minutes, and saw one 30 ft yacht try to wedge itself
between the lock walls. Later, we watched a 40+ foot old wooden motor boat
get into difficulties. The bow seemed to be secured, but the stern was
drifting away from the wall. There was lots of shouting, and we were smugly
commenting on their incompetence when there was a splash!!

I'd like to think that I react quickly in an emergency. However, the brain
doesn't work that way. I said that I thought that someone had fallen in.
Roger said that he thought so too. Roger then said that maybe we should go
to help. It was only at that point that we realised that a real emergency
existed, and we ran like mad.

It only took a few seconds to cover the 50 yards, but when we got there the
lockeeper was already in the water, supporting the 65(?) y/o woman who had
fallen in. They were holding onto a vertical rope on the lock wall. The
motor boat's stern was about 4-5 feet from the wall - and it was threatening
to come in and crush the pair in the water. I sat on the wall and was able
to get my feet into a position to stop the boat coming against the wall.
Roger is shouting at the skipper to switch his engines off. The skipper
seems to be more concerned with getting his boat alongside the lock wall-
and doesn't seem to have figured out that he might kill his wife (and the
lockeeper). At this point, I have a rope from the boat, and I also have my
feet on the stern -holding it off. I'm now also shouting at the skipper to
"turn the Fu*king engines off".

The engines got switched off, and we pulled the boat against the wall, a
couple of feet forward of the pair in the water. They pulled themselves
over to the boarding ladder of the boat. The skipper (husband) leaned over
the stern and told his wife to climb up the ladder. She tried, and said
that she couldn't. The skipper told her again to climb up! At this point I
said to him (our heads were only a foot apart) "she's in shock from the fall
and the cold". The husband didn't seem to understand.

Anyway, the lockeeper pushed her up onto the ladder, and he followed.

The lockeeper then got onto the wall - and expected a "thank you" from the
skipper. He was dissappointed. He even passed a comment about "seeing you
next week".

The keeper went up to the controls and closed the inner gates, then opened
the outer gates. The motor boat sailed off without a word of thanks.



With hindsight, I realised that the lockeeper had gone straight into the
water - without hesitation. He didn't have time to empty his pockets.
When *we* started to run, the lockeeper was still in his observation tower,
and less than 10 seconds later he was in the water. I suspect that he had a
wallet in his pocket - any money in it was ruined. He wasn't even offered a
bottle of wine.



This page shows the lock in question.
http://www.island-harbour.co.uk/getting.html


Regards


Donal
--




The_navigator© September 16th 03 01:32 AM

Fun in the lock!
 
Which goes to confirm the general incompetence of the motor head.

Cheers MC

Donal wrote:

A couple of weeks ago I was in a marina that had a locked entrance. The
lock was small (4-6 boats), and there was hardly any wind.

Coincidentally, a customer, who has a 40 ft power boat was visiting the same
marina. On the Sunday morning I noticed that he was standing on his
flybridge alone. I wandered over to his boat and went aboard.

He told me that he was watching the "fun" in the lock. He was moored no
more than 100ft from the lock, with a view straight in. He said that nearly
every boat that went in was getting into difficulties.

We chatted for a few minutes, and saw one 30 ft yacht try to wedge itself
between the lock walls. Later, we watched a 40+ foot old wooden motor boat
get into difficulties. The bow seemed to be secured, but the stern was
drifting away from the wall. There was lots of shouting, and we were smugly
commenting on their incompetence when there was a splash!!

I'd like to think that I react quickly in an emergency. However, the brain
doesn't work that way. I said that I thought that someone had fallen in.
Roger said that he thought so too. Roger then said that maybe we should go
to help. It was only at that point that we realised that a real emergency
existed, and we ran like mad.

It only took a few seconds to cover the 50 yards, but when we got there the
lockeeper was already in the water, supporting the 65(?) y/o woman who had
fallen in. They were holding onto a vertical rope on the lock wall. The
motor boat's stern was about 4-5 feet from the wall - and it was threatening
to come in and crush the pair in the water. I sat on the wall and was able
to get my feet into a position to stop the boat coming against the wall.
Roger is shouting at the skipper to switch his engines off. The skipper
seems to be more concerned with getting his boat alongside the lock wall-
and doesn't seem to have figured out that he might kill his wife (and the
lockeeper). At this point, I have a rope from the boat, and I also have my
feet on the stern -holding it off. I'm now also shouting at the skipper to
"turn the Fu*king engines off".

The engines got switched off, and we pulled the boat against the wall, a
couple of feet forward of the pair in the water. They pulled themselves
over to the boarding ladder of the boat. The skipper (husband) leaned over
the stern and told his wife to climb up the ladder. She tried, and said
that she couldn't. The skipper told her again to climb up! At this point I
said to him (our heads were only a foot apart) "she's in shock from the fall
and the cold". The husband didn't seem to understand.

Anyway, the lockeeper pushed her up onto the ladder, and he followed.

The lockeeper then got onto the wall - and expected a "thank you" from the
skipper. He was dissappointed. He even passed a comment about "seeing you
next week".

The keeper went up to the controls and closed the inner gates, then opened
the outer gates. The motor boat sailed off without a word of thanks.



With hindsight, I realised that the lockeeper had gone straight into the
water - without hesitation. He didn't have time to empty his pockets.
When *we* started to run, the lockeeper was still in his observation tower,
and less than 10 seconds later he was in the water. I suspect that he had a
wallet in his pocket - any money in it was ruined. He wasn't even offered a
bottle of wine.



This page shows the lock in question.
http://www.island-harbour.co.uk/getting.html


Regards


Donal
--





Capt. Mooron September 16th 03 02:15 AM

Fun in the lock!
 
I would have bitch slapped the owner of the boat at the first sign of
incompetence... refusal to comprehend enough to turn off the engine.....
then very loudly humiliated him and question his ability to be allowed to
venture onto the water.

You acted quite civil Donal.... it appears he was fleeing a very
embarrassing moment. Make sure the incident, party and the boat get
mentioned in the local paper.

CM



"Donal" wrote in message
...
| A couple of weeks ago I was in a marina that had a locked entrance. The
| lock was small (4-6 boats), and there was hardly any wind.
|
| Coincidentally, a customer, who has a 40 ft power boat was visiting the
same
| marina. On the Sunday morning I noticed that he was standing on his
| flybridge alone. I wandered over to his boat and went aboard.
|
| He told me that he was watching the "fun" in the lock. He was moored no
| more than 100ft from the lock, with a view straight in. He said that
nearly
| every boat that went in was getting into difficulties.
|
| We chatted for a few minutes, and saw one 30 ft yacht try to wedge itself
| between the lock walls. Later, we watched a 40+ foot old wooden motor
boat
| get into difficulties. The bow seemed to be secured, but the stern was
| drifting away from the wall. There was lots of shouting, and we were
smugly
| commenting on their incompetence when there was a splash!!
|
| I'd like to think that I react quickly in an emergency. However, the
brain
| doesn't work that way. I said that I thought that someone had fallen in.
| Roger said that he thought so too. Roger then said that maybe we should
go
| to help. It was only at that point that we realised that a real emergency
| existed, and we ran like mad.
|
| It only took a few seconds to cover the 50 yards, but when we got there
the
| lockeeper was already in the water, supporting the 65(?) y/o woman who had
| fallen in. They were holding onto a vertical rope on the lock wall.
The
| motor boat's stern was about 4-5 feet from the wall - and it was
threatening
| to come in and crush the pair in the water. I sat on the wall and was
able
| to get my feet into a position to stop the boat coming against the wall.
| Roger is shouting at the skipper to switch his engines off. The skipper
| seems to be more concerned with getting his boat alongside the lock wall-
| and doesn't seem to have figured out that he might kill his wife (and the
| lockeeper). At this point, I have a rope from the boat, and I also have
my
| feet on the stern -holding it off. I'm now also shouting at the skipper
to
| "turn the Fu*king engines off".
|
| The engines got switched off, and we pulled the boat against the wall, a
| couple of feet forward of the pair in the water. They pulled themselves
| over to the boarding ladder of the boat. The skipper (husband) leaned
over
| the stern and told his wife to climb up the ladder. She tried, and said
| that she couldn't. The skipper told her again to climb up! At this point
I
| said to him (our heads were only a foot apart) "she's in shock from the
fall
| and the cold". The husband didn't seem to understand.
|
| Anyway, the lockeeper pushed her up onto the ladder, and he followed.
|
| The lockeeper then got onto the wall - and expected a "thank you" from the
| skipper. He was dissappointed. He even passed a comment about "seeing
you
| next week".
|
| The keeper went up to the controls and closed the inner gates, then opened
| the outer gates. The motor boat sailed off without a word of thanks.
|
|
|
| With hindsight, I realised that the lockeeper had gone straight into the
| water - without hesitation. He didn't have time to empty his pockets.
| When *we* started to run, the lockeeper was still in his observation
tower,
| and less than 10 seconds later he was in the water. I suspect that he had
a
| wallet in his pocket - any money in it was ruined. He wasn't even offered
a
| bottle of wine.
|
|
|
| This page shows the lock in question.
| http://www.island-harbour.co.uk/getting.html
|
|
| Regards
|
|
| Donal
| --
|
|
|



Jeff Morris September 16th 03 02:56 AM

Fun in the lock!
 
An interesting story. Clearly, the man was beating a hasty retreat ... hopefully he had
second thoughts about his ungracious behavior.

BTW, you said "I suspect that he had a wallet in his pocket - any money in it was
ruined." Does your local currency dissolve in water? That doesn't seem like a good
idea, especially given your damp climate. In the States we run old bills through the
washing machine to make them look new again! I hope the Republicans don't realize the
fiscal benefits of dissolving money.

-jeff



"Donal" wrote in message
...
A couple of weeks ago I was in a marina that had a locked entrance. The
lock was small (4-6 boats), and there was hardly any wind.

Coincidentally, a customer, who has a 40 ft power boat was visiting the same
marina. On the Sunday morning I noticed that he was standing on his
flybridge alone. I wandered over to his boat and went aboard.

He told me that he was watching the "fun" in the lock. He was moored no
more than 100ft from the lock, with a view straight in. He said that nearly
every boat that went in was getting into difficulties.

We chatted for a few minutes, and saw one 30 ft yacht try to wedge itself
between the lock walls. Later, we watched a 40+ foot old wooden motor boat
get into difficulties. The bow seemed to be secured, but the stern was
drifting away from the wall. There was lots of shouting, and we were smugly
commenting on their incompetence when there was a splash!!

I'd like to think that I react quickly in an emergency. However, the brain
doesn't work that way. I said that I thought that someone had fallen in.
Roger said that he thought so too. Roger then said that maybe we should go
to help. It was only at that point that we realised that a real emergency
existed, and we ran like mad.

It only took a few seconds to cover the 50 yards, but when we got there the
lockeeper was already in the water, supporting the 65(?) y/o woman who had
fallen in. They were holding onto a vertical rope on the lock wall. The
motor boat's stern was about 4-5 feet from the wall - and it was threatening
to come in and crush the pair in the water. I sat on the wall and was able
to get my feet into a position to stop the boat coming against the wall.
Roger is shouting at the skipper to switch his engines off. The skipper
seems to be more concerned with getting his boat alongside the lock wall-
and doesn't seem to have figured out that he might kill his wife (and the
lockeeper). At this point, I have a rope from the boat, and I also have my
feet on the stern -holding it off. I'm now also shouting at the skipper to
"turn the Fu*king engines off".

The engines got switched off, and we pulled the boat against the wall, a
couple of feet forward of the pair in the water. They pulled themselves
over to the boarding ladder of the boat. The skipper (husband) leaned over
the stern and told his wife to climb up the ladder. She tried, and said
that she couldn't. The skipper told her again to climb up! At this point I
said to him (our heads were only a foot apart) "she's in shock from the fall
and the cold". The husband didn't seem to understand.

Anyway, the lockeeper pushed her up onto the ladder, and he followed.

The lockeeper then got onto the wall - and expected a "thank you" from the
skipper. He was dissappointed. He even passed a comment about "seeing you
next week".

The keeper went up to the controls and closed the inner gates, then opened
the outer gates. The motor boat sailed off without a word of thanks.



With hindsight, I realised that the lockeeper had gone straight into the
water - without hesitation. He didn't have time to empty his pockets.
When *we* started to run, the lockeeper was still in his observation tower,
and less than 10 seconds later he was in the water. I suspect that he had a
wallet in his pocket - any money in it was ruined. He wasn't even offered a
bottle of wine.



This page shows the lock in question.
http://www.island-harbour.co.uk/getting.html


Regards


Donal
--






thunder September 16th 03 12:13 PM

Fun in the lock!
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:15:27 -0300, Capt. Mooron wrote:

I would have bitch slapped the owner of the boat at the first sign of
incompetence... refusal to comprehend enough to turn off the engine.....
then very loudly humiliated him and question his ability to be allowed to
venture onto the water.


I can understand questioning his competence, but bitch slapping a 65 year
old?

You acted quite civil Donal.... it appears he was fleeing a very
embarrassing moment. Make sure the incident, party and the boat get
mentioned in the local paper.

CM



"Donal" wrote in message
...
| A couple of weeks ago I was in a marina that had a locked entrance.
| The lock was small (4-6 boats), and there was hardly any wind.
|
| Coincidentally, a customer, who has a 40 ft power boat was visiting
| the
same
| marina. On the Sunday morning I noticed that he was standing on his
| flybridge alone. I wandered over to his boat and went aboard.
|
| He told me that he was watching the "fun" in the lock. He was moored
| no more than 100ft from the lock, with a view straight in. He said
| that
nearly
| every boat that went in was getting into difficulties.
|
| We chatted for a few minutes, and saw one 30 ft yacht try to wedge
| itself between the lock walls. Later, we watched a 40+ foot old
| wooden motor
boat
| get into difficulties. The bow seemed to be secured, but the stern
| was drifting away from the wall. There was lots of shouting, and we
| were
smugly
| commenting on their incompetence when there was a splash!!
|
| I'd like to think that I react quickly in an emergency. However, the
brain
| doesn't work that way. I said that I thought that someone had fallen
| in. Roger said that he thought so too. Roger then said that maybe we
| should
go
| to help. It was only at that point that we realised that a real
| emergency existed, and we ran like mad.
|
| It only took a few seconds to cover the 50 yards, but when we got
| there
the
| lockeeper was already in the water, supporting the 65(?) y/o woman who
| had fallen in. They were holding onto a vertical rope on the lock
| wall.
The
| motor boat's stern was about 4-5 feet from the wall - and it was
threatening
| to come in and crush the pair in the water. I sat on the wall and was
able
| to get my feet into a position to stop the boat coming against the
| wall. Roger is shouting at the skipper to switch his engines off. The
| skipper seems to be more concerned with getting his boat alongside the
| lock wall- and doesn't seem to have figured out that he might kill his
| wife (and the lockeeper). At this point, I have a rope from the boat,
| and I also have
my
| feet on the stern -holding it off. I'm now also shouting at the
| skipper
to
| "turn the Fu*king engines off".
|
| The engines got switched off, and we pulled the boat against the wall,
| a couple of feet forward of the pair in the water. They pulled
| themselves over to the boarding ladder of the boat. The skipper
| (husband) leaned
over
| the stern and told his wife to climb up the ladder. She tried, and
| said that she couldn't. The skipper told her again to climb up! At
| this point
I
| said to him (our heads were only a foot apart) "she's in shock from
| the
fall
| and the cold". The husband didn't seem to understand.
|
| Anyway, the lockeeper pushed her up onto the ladder, and he followed.
|
| The lockeeper then got onto the wall - and expected a "thank you" from
| the skipper. He was dissappointed. He even passed a comment about
| "seeing
you
| next week".
|
| The keeper went up to the controls and closed the inner gates, then
| opened the outer gates. The motor boat sailed off without a word of
| thanks.
|
|
|
| With hindsight, I realised that the lockeeper had gone straight into
| the water - without hesitation. He didn't have time to empty his
| pockets. When *we* started to run, the lockeeper was still in his
| observation
tower,
| and less than 10 seconds later he was in the water. I suspect that he
| had
a
| wallet in his pocket - any money in it was ruined. He wasn't even
| offered
a
| bottle of wine.
|
|
|
| This page shows the lock in question.
| http://www.island-harbour.co.uk/getting.html
|
|
| Regards
|
|
| Donal
| --
|
|
|



Vito September 16th 03 02:46 PM

Fun in the lock!
 
thunder wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:15:27 -0300, Capt. Mooron wrote:

I would have bitch slapped the owner ....


I can understand questioning his competence, but bitch slapping a 65 year old?


Right up the man's alley.

Donal September 16th 03 06:33 PM

Fun in the lock!
 

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
An interesting story. Clearly, the man was beating a hasty retreat ...

hopefully he had
second thoughts about his ungracious behavior.

BTW, you said "I suspect that he had a wallet in his pocket - any money

in it was
ruined." Does your local currency dissolve in water? That doesn't seem

like a good
idea, especially given your damp climate. In the States we run old bills

through the
washing machine to make them look new again! I hope the Republicans don't

realize the
fiscal benefits of dissolving money.


Actually, we have had tougher new notes here for a few years. They are
probably waterproof. The keeper's clothes would have need cleaning. He
should have been offered something.


Regards


Donal
--



katysails September 16th 03 11:28 PM

Fun in the lock!
 
I would have bitch slapped the owner of the boat at the first sign of
incompetence...=20

Donal already satated that the woman was in her 60's...chances are the =
man was probably even older, has lost his reaction time, and possibly is =
already suffering from dementia. Bitch-slapping people does nothing to =
improve a situation, but does tend to inflame others, especially when =
they perceive that the elderly are being abused (hint-hint....taking a =
walk in your own shoes). I am not defending the man's actions or lack =
thereof, but different people react in diffrent ways and he, too, could =
have been suffering from shock or disbelief. The thankful part is that =
there was someone there to act, there was someone there, to assist the =
old man, and that no lasting damage seems to have occurred. =20

Shock is a weird thing. People act totally out of character when it =
strikes. Some people are lucky and have had training to react =
immediately...if a person has never been in a bad or dangerous =
situation, they may not even realize how bad things really are, even =
staring at it right in the face. It's wasy to condemn people. It is =
much harder to understand them. It is always better to at least try to =
understand than to condemn. (unless of course, you're talking about a =
few jaded individuals that we all know...)

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


katysails September 16th 03 11:31 PM

Fun in the lock!
 

He
should have been offered something.


Regards


Donal
You don't know that he wasn't after all was aid and done. After the man =
took his wife home and got over it all, it is very possible he came back =
and recompensed the lock keeper. =20
--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Capt. Mooron September 17th 03 12:05 AM

Fun in the lock!
 

"thunder" wrote in message

| I can understand questioning his competence, but bitch slapping a 65 year
| old?

I know some 65 year olds that could kick your butt. Why is it people think
that when someone reaches 65 ... they're automatically a feeble imbecile?
Yeah I'd bitch slap a 65 year old just as quick as I would a 25 year
old.....

I didn't say beat him into a friggin' coma!
GET A GRIP!

CM



Capt. Mooron September 17th 03 12:06 AM

Fun in the lock!
 

"Vito" wrote in message
...
| thunder wrote:
|
| On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:15:27 -0300, Capt. Mooron wrote:
|
| I would have bitch slapped the owner ....
|
| I can understand questioning his competence, but bitch slapping a 65
year old?
|
|
| Right up the man's alley.

While you'd be bangin' his old lady and making fun of him wouldn't you
dipwad...

CM



Capt. Mooron September 17th 03 01:14 AM

Fun in the lock!
 
Nah... I would've bitch slapped him for not turning the engines off .......
I mean how old a 65 are you talking here... too senile to operate a vessel,
to weak to walk?

My old man is 30 years older than that... and if 65... it would make this
dude Donal referred to only 17 years older than me.

Who's saying he was older than his wife... who can say she was 60. Maybe she
looked 60 but was only 50. Maybe her husband was only 4 years older than
me... would that make it OKAY?

He obviously couldn't give a hoot about his wife!!

CM




"katysails" wrote in message
...
I would have bitch slapped the owner of the boat at the first sign of
incompetence...

Donal already satated that the woman was in her 60's...chances are the man
was probably even older, has lost his reaction time, and possibly is already
suffering from dementia. Bitch-slapping people does nothing to improve a
situation, but does tend to inflame others, especially when they perceive
that the elderly are being abused (hint-hint....taking a walk in your own
shoes). I am not defending the man's actions or lack thereof, but different
people react in diffrent ways and he, too, could have been suffering from
shock or disbelief. The thankful part is that there was someone there to
act, there was someone there, to assist the old man, and that no lasting
damage seems to have occurred.

Shock is a weird thing. People act totally out of character when it
strikes. Some people are lucky and have had training to react
immediately...if a person has never been in a bad or dangerous situation,
they may not even realize how bad things really are, even staring at it
right in the face. It's wasy to condemn people. It is much harder to
understand them. It is always better to at least try to understand than to
condemn. (unless of course, you're talking about a few jaded individuals
that we all know...)

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Vito September 17th 03 03:13 PM

Fun in the lock!
 
Donal wrote:

If I ever witness such a thing again, I will be less civil. I wonder how
much the keeper had to pay to get his trousers dry cleaned? There wasn't
even an attempt to say "thank you".


A thot occurred to me on the subject: maybe the husband was far less
that greatful but could hardly say so. Perhaps he'd worked hard to
murder his wife and make it look like an accident; then you and the lock
keeper intervened and ruined his day. Or perhaps he is approaching
senility and got too confused by the unexpected turn of events to
function properly. Old people do that some times. Don't ask me how I
know but you will too someday .... (c:

Donal September 17th 03 10:57 PM

Fun in the lock!
 

"katysails" wrote in message
...

He
should have been offered something.


You don't know that he wasn't after all was aid and done. After the man
took his wife home and got over it all, it is very possible he came
back and recompensed the lock keeper.

--

Somehow, I doubt that he did. He seemed more annoyed at his wife's
"behaviour" than anything else.

If I can find the time, I'll phone the marina tomorrow - and ask.



Regards


Donal
--




Capt. Mooron September 18th 03 01:57 AM

Fun in the lock!
 

"Vito" wrote in message
| A thot occurred to me on the subject:

Realy Vito... a whole "thot".... Wow!


maybe the husband was far less
| that greatful but could hardly say so. Perhaps he'd worked hard to
| murder his wife and make it look like an accident;

Ya Think??? .... tell us Vito... what happened to you that resulted in such
loathing and cynicism of your fellow man? What drove you to your delusional
fantasies about biker gangs, gang bangs, gang rapes, ganging up against....
wait a minute here... do I detect a pattern?
I bet you weren't "accepted" into your local gang!... shunned by your peers
as a spineless coward! Now your hate for anyone displaying any success 9is
evident in your twisted tales of vengeance against those you believe to be
your superiors.

Can't you just be happy being Vito the Village Idiot.

then you and the lock
| keeper intervened and ruined his day. Or perhaps he is approaching
| senility and got too confused by the unexpected turn of events to
| function properly. Old people do that some times. Don't ask me how I
| know but you will too someday .... (c:

Yeah... sure Vito.... and just maybe he was overcompensating or trying to
hide his self doubt and inherent panic at any challenge. Sounds like a dead
ringer for you! Bwahahahahahahahahhaaaa

CM



The_navigator© September 18th 03 05:48 AM

Fun in the lock!
 
Just call him 'Vi' = village idiot (and a very stupid editor and vile by
half).

Cheers MC

Capt. Mooron wrote:

"Vito" wrote in message
| A thot occurred to me on the subject:

Realy Vito... a whole "thot".... Wow!


maybe the husband was far less
| that greatful but could hardly say so. Perhaps he'd worked hard to
| murder his wife and make it look like an accident;

Ya Think??? .... tell us Vito... what happened to you that resulted in such
loathing and cynicism of your fellow man? What drove you to your delusional
fantasies about biker gangs, gang bangs, gang rapes, ganging up against....
wait a minute here... do I detect a pattern?
I bet you weren't "accepted" into your local gang!... shunned by your peers
as a spineless coward! Now your hate for anyone displaying any success 9is
evident in your twisted tales of vengeance against those you believe to be
your superiors.

Can't you just be happy being Vito the Village Idiot.

then you and the lock
| keeper intervened and ruined his day. Or perhaps he is approaching
| senility and got too confused by the unexpected turn of events to
| function properly. Old people do that some times. Don't ask me how I
| know but you will too someday .... (c:

Yeah... sure Vito.... and just maybe he was overcompensating or trying to
hide his self doubt and inherent panic at any challenge. Sounds like a dead
ringer for you! Bwahahahahahahahahhaaaa

CM




katysails September 18th 03 01:34 PM

Fun in the lock!
 
He seemed more annoyed at his wife's
"behaviour" than anything else.

Oh...well, then...one of the "you embarrassed me in front of a crowd" =
type...If so, then Moron can have him.

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Capt. Mooron September 18th 03 09:48 PM

Fun in the lock!
 
Like I said... Bitch Slap some sense into him.... it wouldn't take long and
the results are immediate.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
He seemed more annoyed at his wife's
"behaviour" than anything else.

Oh...well, then...one of the "you embarrassed me in front of a crowd"
type...If so, then Moron can have him.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



katysails September 18th 03 11:37 PM

Fun in the lock!
 
Like I said... Bitch Slap some sense into him.... =20

sigh...always so extreme....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Capt. Mooron September 19th 03 12:16 AM

Fun in the lock!
 
Moderation is for Monks to truly enjoy life... take big bites - Robert A
Heinlein

Right back at Ya! :-)

CM



"katysails" wrote in message
...
Like I said... Bitch Slap some sense into him....

sigh...always so extreme....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Vito September 22nd 03 05:59 PM

Fun in the lock!
 
"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

Like I said... Bitch Slap some sense into him.... it wouldn't take long and
the results are immediate.


Yup, provided it was some weak old man in his dotage - as may well be
the case here. Otherwise you'd be hiding behind some computer somewhere.

Vito September 22nd 03 08:38 PM

Fun in the lock!
 
"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

Ya Think??? .... tell us Vito... what happened to you that resulted in such
loathing and cynicism of your fellow man? ...


I get along fine with my fellow men, it's the blowhards and phonies I
have trouble with. But God loves them else he wouldn't have made so many
of them.

What made me cynical was 65 years dealing with DUDES. It's like being a
Rotty in a pack of yap-yap Chihuahuas constantly congratulating
themselves on scaring off the mail man. I see dudes at Daytona posing
beside customs somebody else built, dressed as tho they just stepped out
of Easy Rider - so proud and feisty you'd think they were real. In fact
every one of them thinks the dude beside him IS real ... until they see
a real ass-kicking administered by experts! I've seen dudes dressed up
like 12 year olds playing mountain man, dissing playmates for not having
the "right" beadwork. I've seen dudes strive for status on horses they'd
been afraid of before folks like me had gentled them and I've seen dudes
strutting at discos trying to bluff other wimps til they see a little
blood, then it's stampede for the exit. I saw one run a bluff on a man
with a knife then be surprised when he got cut. I've seen them pull guns
and shoot the sky then run lock themselves in a girls bedroom when their
bluff got called. OTOH I'm unsportsmanlike because I shoot deer off my
back porch instead of a tree stand and worse because I "unfairly" bounce
dojo ballerinas off walls if one tries to kick me. Guess what they say
when I get PO'd and have a half-dozen bangers punish some idiot with
2x4s while I visit the sheriff? Oh the shame of it all ....

Now another dude comes along, this one playing tough sailor, his ego all
tied up in another game. But he don't know it's a game because, thanks
to a sheltered life, it's the only game he knows. You yap yap about
three ladies using you as a sex toy but get all offended when you find
out that others like them use bikers then marry mealtickets ... like
you? You yap yap about 'bitch slapping' some old guy for dissing a woman
who, for all you know snagged him in the old hair trap then made his
life miserable for the last 45 years. Yap, yap, yap. But you'd be the
first to holler "police" then "mama" if the same old geezer dropped a
dime on you; just like Danny did when Sinatra let him fight.

Don't get me wrong, I've played games myself - biker, sport car racer,
mountain man, etc. but the difference is I know they're games whilst
dudes like you, from golf pros to gang bangers think *their* game is
reality until they end up as a wife or mealticket or reality bites their
ass under somebody's feet. Then they bawl and call for their mamas and
whine about injustice. Lemme tell you, being around them is enough to
make *anybody* cynical.

So now it's your turn: tell us Capt wink how did you get the funny
title, why do you think it makes you better than, say, a high-dollar
pimp, and when and how did you make your first bones. And while you're
here how about a picture in those seal fur panties and the caribou boa.

The_navigator© September 22nd 03 10:15 PM

Fun in the lock!
 


Vito wrote:


I get along fine with my fellow men, it's the blowhards and phonies I
have trouble with. But God loves them else he wouldn't have made so many
of them.


Looked in the mirror recently?

Cheers MC


Capt. Mooron September 22nd 03 11:29 PM

Fun in the lock!
 
Ain't that just the kicker..... Vito's life history presented because he
can't comprehend rhetoric....

CM

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
|
|
| Vito wrote:
|
|
| I get along fine with my fellow men, it's the blowhards and phonies I
| have trouble with. But God loves them else he wouldn't have made so many
| of them.
|
|
| Looked in the mirror recently?
|
| Cheers MC
|



Capt. Mooron September 22nd 03 11:30 PM

Fun in the lock!
 
How old does one have to be to don the mantel of "dotage".... ???

CM

"Vito" wrote in message
...
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote:
|
| Like I said... Bitch Slap some sense into him.... it wouldn't take long
and
| the results are immediate.
|
| Yup, provided it was some weak old man in his dotage - as may well be
| the case here. Otherwise you'd be hiding behind some computer somewhere.



Donal September 23rd 03 01:02 AM

Fun in the lock!
 

"Vito" wrote in message
...
"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

Ya Think??? .... tell us Vito... what happened to you that resulted in

such
loathing and cynicism of your fellow man? ...


I get along fine with my fellow men, it's the blowhards and phonies I
have trouble with. But God loves them else he wouldn't have made so many
of them.

Don't get me wrong, I've played games myself - biker, sport car racer,
mountain man, etc. but the difference is I know they're games


.....and yet you don't seem to be able to see that this is Usenet, and *not*
real life???


Please explain?


Regards

Donal
--




Capt. Mooron September 23rd 03 01:18 AM

Fun in the lock!
 
....are you in your "dotage"???
....and if you are will you shut up if I bitch slap you?

CM



"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
| How old does one have to be to don the mantel of "dotage".... ???
|
| CM
|
| "Vito" wrote in message
| ...
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote:
| |
| | Like I said... Bitch Slap some sense into him.... it wouldn't take
long
| and
| | the results are immediate.
| |
| | Yup, provided it was some weak old man in his dotage - as may well be
| | the case here. Otherwise you'd be hiding behind some computer somewhere.
|
|



The_navigator© September 23rd 03 02:31 AM

Fun in the lock!
 
Shhh. Next he'll question if he exists at all.

Cheers MC

Donal wrote:

"Vito" wrote in message
...

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

Ya Think??? .... tell us Vito... what happened to you that resulted in


such

loathing and cynicism of your fellow man? ...


I get along fine with my fellow men, it's the blowhards and phonies I
have trouble with. But God loves them else he wouldn't have made so many
of them.

Don't get me wrong, I've played games myself - biker, sport car racer,
mountain man, etc. but the difference is I know they're games



....and yet you don't seem to be able to see that this is Usenet, and *not*
real life???


Please explain?


Regards

Donal
--





Vito September 23rd 03 06:19 PM

Fun in the lock!
 
Donal wrote:

....and yet you don't seem to be able to see that this is Usenet, and *not*
real life???

Thank you Donal. I understand now.

Vito September 23rd 03 06:30 PM

Fun in the lock!
 
"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

...are you in your "dotage"???


Not quite ... oops, I almost forgot Donal's admonishment and answered
honestly ... Hell no! I'm 7ft and 400 lbs of rock hard bone and muscle
with a mind so sharp I dabble in advanced math just for fun. I can't
hope to match y'all at dreaming but thats a start.

...and if you are will you shut up if I bitch slap you?

Naw, I'd flip ya over and add another star to me brown wings.

Scott Vernon September 23rd 03 07:32 PM

Fun in the lock!
 
"Vito" wrote

Naw, I'd flip ya over and add another star to me brown wings.


been diving in the **** pile again, haven't you?





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