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Wally September 12th 03 02:29 AM

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Where's the proper place to fly a Jolly Roger? The masthead?

And, am I right in thinking that it shouldn't be flown when in port?


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sv \Sensoria\ September 12th 03 10:12 AM

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Where's the proper place to fly a Jolly Roger?

Right before boarding a ship.....

Use a fake national flag to get close to the ship.....at the last moment put
up the Jolly.....



"Wally" wrote in message
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Where's the proper place to fly a Jolly Roger? The masthead?

And, am I right in thinking that it shouldn't be flown when in port?


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DSK September 12th 03 02:19 PM

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Wally wrote:

Where's the proper place to fly a Jolly Roger? The masthead?


No, it should be flown from the mizzen yard.



And, am I right in thinking that it shouldn't be flown when in port?


Depends on which port you're in.

DSK


Capt. Mooron September 12th 03 03:22 PM

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Wally... I only fly a Pirate's Flag.... off the flag post on the stern
rail. It's perfectly legal if you have a parrot.

CM

"Wally" wrote in message
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| Where's the proper place to fly a Jolly Roger? The masthead?
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| And, am I right in thinking that it shouldn't be flown when in port?
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| Wally
| www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com
| Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light.
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Wally September 12th 03 03:43 PM

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sv "Sensoria" wrote:
Where's the proper place to fly a Jolly Roger?

Right before boarding a ship.....

Use a fake national flag to get close to the ship.....at the last
moment put up the Jolly.....


Yes, I'm aware of the correct procedure - it's the location that I'm
enquiring into. My "Treasure Island" DVD shows the Jolly Roger being flown
at the masthead (it goes up when the remaining pirates take over the ship
while the good guys are ashore). However, the story is substantially changed
later on, so I'm not sure if the hollywood rendition is accurate regarding
the flag.


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Wally September 12th 03 03:51 PM

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DSK wrote:

Where's the proper place to fly a Jolly Roger? The masthead?


No, it should be flown from the mizzen yard.


I don't have a mizzen yard on my sloop, so I guess the spreaders is the
nearest to that. Port or starboard? (I plan to have the national flag and
club burgee on starboard, btw.)


And, am I right in thinking that it shouldn't be flown when in port?


Depends on which port you're in.


I'm about a mile up the water from the very port where RLS lodged after
writing Treasure Island, and where he was inspired to write Kidnapped. In
fact, the island that formed the basis for *the* island is about 30 miles
along the coast.


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Wally September 12th 03 03:54 PM

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Capt. Mooron wrote:

Wally... I only fly a Pirate's Flag.... off the flag post on the
stern rail. ...


Getting conflicting information on the correct etiquette regarding location.
I'd have thought that the masthead would be the best place, since it can be
most readily seen.


... It's perfectly legal if you have a parrot.


When your boat's called 'Hispaniola', the flag's a requirement. That said, I
don't what the thinking is behind those owl-shaped seagull scarers - you'd
think the makers would have the gumption and imagination to make them
parrot-shaped...


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sv \Sensoria\ September 12th 03 04:37 PM

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I just bought a Pirate 2 weeks ago.....for a party we were having on an
Island......We flew it so pop, mom and the kids would not land on the
beach......as it's popular

It worked really well...boats would see the flag and pass by.......Knowing
that there was a serious party going on.....

By the way a good pirate flag we set you back $45 bucks Canadian.....

I would fly it anywhere on my boat....... as everyone knows it's just a
joke.....

But I'm sure some people would find it offensive if you flew it from the
stern pole.....



"Wally" wrote in message
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Capt. Mooron wrote:

Wally... I only fly a Pirate's Flag.... off the flag post on the
stern rail. ...


Getting conflicting information on the correct etiquette regarding

location.
I'd have thought that the masthead would be the best place, since it can

be
most readily seen.


... It's perfectly legal if you have a parrot.


When your boat's called 'Hispaniola', the flag's a requirement. That said,

I
don't what the thinking is behind those owl-shaped seagull scarers - you'd
think the makers would have the gumption and imagination to make them
parrot-shaped...


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Capt. Mooron September 12th 03 04:45 PM

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"sv "Sensoria"" wrote in message

| But I'm sure some people would find it offensive if you flew it from the
| stern pole.....

Those are the ones I'm aiming at offending.....

CM



Wally September 12th 03 04:47 PM

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sv "Sensoria" wrote:

By the way a good pirate flag we set you back $45 bucks Canadian.....


I got a 3x2' nylon or polyester one on eBay for 3ukp. Decent quality,
printed, with grommets rather than rope and toggles.


I would fly it anywhere on my boat....... as everyone knows it's just
a joke.....


Indeed. I plan to use it to strike terror into the hearts of next season's
race fleet in the slow yacht class.


But I'm sure some people would find it offensive if you flew it from
the stern pole.....


They're welcome to put on their 'Little Admiral' hats and fly insults from
their signal halyards.


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Capt. Mooron September 12th 03 09:32 PM

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Wally... when you're a Pirate... you just don't ask for permission nor
partake of etiquette. Fly the darned Flag anywhere it pleases you. If some
fool comes up alongside and laments the fact... have your crew stand to the
rail and drop their "gunports" to adequately fire a proper barge of
"Moons"....

I carry one of those stuffed plush Parrots... [it was a gift from the Girls
on my last Hen Frigate Tour].

BTW... you should really get a good Pirates Hat! [ not one of those lame gay
Greek Fisherman's Hats like Oz wears]

CM

"Wally" wrote in message
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| Capt. Mooron wrote:
|
| Wally... I only fly a Pirate's Flag.... off the flag post on the
| stern rail. ...
|
| Getting conflicting information on the correct etiquette regarding
location.
| I'd have thought that the masthead would be the best place, since it can
be
| most readily seen.
|
|
| ... It's perfectly legal if you have a parrot.
|
| When your boat's called 'Hispaniola', the flag's a requirement. That said,
I
| don't what the thinking is behind those owl-shaped seagull scarers - you'd
| think the makers would have the gumption and imagination to make them
| parrot-shaped...
|
|
| --
| Wally
| www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com
| Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light.
|
|
|



Wally September 12th 03 10:21 PM

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Capt. Mooron wrote:

Wally... when you're a Pirate... you just don't ask for permission
nor partake of etiquette. Fly the darned Flag anywhere it pleases
you. If some fool comes up alongside and laments the fact... have
your crew stand to the rail and drop their "gunports" to adequately
fire a proper barge of "Moons"....


So far, the offers to crew have been from women. I'm not sure if they'd be
into firing off a barrage of moons (mind you, they could fire them inboard
to the cockpit...).


I carry one of those stuffed plush Parrots... [it was a gift from the
Girls on my last Hen Frigate Tour].


A mate of mine has one of those in his conservatory - it has batteries and
says things like 'pretty polly' when you pull a cord.


BTW... you should really get a good Pirates Hat! [ not one of those
lame gay Greek Fisherman's Hats like Oz wears]


Been thinking about the hat, and the eye patch, but I draw the line before
the peg leg. As for the Greek Fisherman's Hat, gimme a break - I'm not some
nancy boy!


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Capt. Mooron September 12th 03 10:36 PM

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"Wally" wrote in message
| So far, the offers to crew have been from women. I'm not sure if they'd be
| into firing off a barrage of moons (mind you, they could fire them inboard
| to the cockpit...).

Get'em Drunk first...

| A mate of mine has one of those in his conservatory - it has batteries and
| says things like 'pretty polly' when you pull a cord.

Steal it... that's what a real Pirate would do!!!!

| Been thinking about the hat, and the eye patch, but I draw the line before
| the peg leg. As for the Greek Fisherman's Hat, gimme a break - I'm not
some
| nancy boy!

Oz is a Corporate Pirate.... real pirates hate them types! ;-)

CM



Donal September 13th 03 11:57 PM

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"Wally" wrote in message
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Where's the proper place to fly a Jolly Roger? The masthead?

And, am I right in thinking that it shouldn't be flown when in port?


I hate to be a killjoy .... BUT ...

.... There is an old law on the statute books that says that it is every
sailor's duty to sink any vessel that is flying the Jolly Roger.

If I was on port tack, and I had a collision with a boat that was on
starboard tack flying a jolly Roger, then I would claim that I had done it
on purpose. I wouldn't have anything to lose, would I?

Now ... I will make up for being a killjoy!!!

If you want to fly a "fun" flag, then look up the "pilot jack". The last
time that I flew one was at an MOD rally! Bear in mind that I have an Irish
accent. When questioned about it, I said that silly English rules did not
apply to the Irish, and that we could fly whatever we liked on our boats!
(a quick look at the stern would have revealed that we were flying a red
ensign!!!).

Get yourself a pilot jack. It is waaaaay more fun that a Jolly Roger.



Regards


Donal
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Wally September 14th 03 02:15 AM

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Donal wrote:

Where's the proper place to fly a Jolly Roger? The masthead?

And, am I right in thinking that it shouldn't be flown when in port?


I hate to be a killjoy .... BUT ...

... There is an old law on the statute books that says that it is
every sailor's duty to sink any vessel that is flying the Jolly Roger.


I believe that, during WWII, British submarines used the Jolly Roger as
their flag or colours, with variations on the theme for each boat.


If I was on port tack, and I had a collision with a boat that was on
starboard tack flying a jolly Roger, then I would claim that I had
done it on purpose. I wouldn't have anything to lose, would I?


See above. Visit Faslane. :-)

More info...

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/flag-ctl.html
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/pirates.html
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/pl~uboat.html



Get yourself a pilot jack. It is waaaaay more fun that a Jolly
Roger.


Nah, doesn't have the instant recognition factor. :-)


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Donal September 14th 03 11:10 PM

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"Wally" wrote in message
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Donal wrote:


Get yourself a pilot jack. It is waaaaay more fun that a Jolly
Roger.


Nah, doesn't have the instant recognition factor. :-)


You're absolutlely correct! People will think that you are claiming that
the Queen is aboard.

Anybody who sees a Jolly Roger, will know that it is a joke. Most people
who see a "pilot jack" will be very confused.

Have you *seen* one? If not, then I'll try to find a link.

Regards

Donal
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Wally September 15th 03 07:02 PM

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Donal wrote:

Nah, doesn't have the instant recognition factor. :-)


You're absolutlely correct! People will think that you are claiming
that the Queen is aboard.


I must admit that that idea has merit...


Anybody who sees a Jolly Roger, will know that it is a joke. Most
people who see a "pilot jack" will be very confused.


A different joke or statement, perhaps. I freely admit to being influenced
by Treasure Island - I read it as a boy and I think the attraction to
sailing was subliminally set back then. I also used to watch 'Daktari' on TV
when I was kid and, when I grew up (a bit) and got a Landrover, it was
painted with Daktari zebra stripes. It's only natural for my boat to be
called 'Hispaniola' and fly a Jolly Roger. :-)


Have you *seen* one? If not, then I'll try to find a link.


Found a pic on the same site I posted other links to.


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Donal September 15th 03 11:13 PM

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"Wally" wrote in message
...
Donal wrote:

Nah, doesn't have the instant recognition factor. :-)


You're absolutlely correct! People will think that you are claiming
that the Queen is aboard.


I must admit that that idea has merit...


I've had people come up and question me about it. They generally have a
blue ensign, and are usually very suspicious. After talking to me, they
tend to be even more suspicious.



Anybody who sees a Jolly Roger, will know that it is a joke. Most
people who see a "pilot jack" will be very confused.


A different joke or statement, perhaps. I freely admit to being influenced
by Treasure Island - I read it as a boy and I think the attraction to
sailing was subliminally set back then. I also used to watch 'Daktari' on

TV
when I was kid and, when I grew up (a bit) and got a Landrover, it was
painted with Daktari zebra stripes. It's only natural for my boat to be
called 'Hispaniola' and fly a Jolly Roger. :-)


Yeah, I can understand that. My boat is called "Setanta" for similiar
reasons.


Regards


Donal
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The_navigator© September 16th 03 12:59 AM

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Why do you say that? I fly the blue ensign by the way...

Cheers MC

Donal wrote:


You're absolutlely correct! People will think that you are claiming that
the Queen is aboard.

Anybody who sees a Jolly Roger, will know that it is a joke. Most people
who see a "pilot jack" will be very confused.



Donal September 16th 03 01:23 AM

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"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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Why do you say that? I fly the blue ensign by the way...


I tend to view the blue ensign as a warning that the boat is going to hit
two other boats as it tries to enter its berth. A white ensign suggests
that the boat is likely to hit 5 other vessels as it attempts to enter the
marina!

Regards


Donal
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