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Bobsprit September 12th 03 02:02 AM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
Here's a pic of Suzanne at the wheel of Marc's great Freedom 36...

http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/images/freedom.jpg

RB

SkitchNYC September 12th 03 01:44 PM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
Here's a pic of Suzanne at the wheel of Marc's great Freedom 36...



Did you lend her out?

Bobsprit September 12th 03 01:47 PM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
Here's a pic of Suzanne at the wheel of Marc's great Freedom 36...



Did you lend her out?

Now is THAT nice?
When are we invited to come check out that IP of yours? I promise...no pics of
you on the website!

RB

SkitchNYC September 12th 03 07:50 PM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
Here's a pic of Suzanne at the wheel of Marc's great Freedom 36...

Did you lend her out?

Now is THAT nice?
When are we invited to come check out that IP of yours?


Well, if I get the same loan as Marc, anytime.

Capt. Mooron September 12th 03 11:24 PM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 

wrote in message

| Ewww! sloppy seconds of THAT? You must be deperate. can't you find a
friendly
| goat or burro to help you out?

Oh come on Bill... this reflects worse on you than you understand. Suzanne
has done nothing to incur your verbal crap. If you want to attack Bob..
fine! Insulting Suzanne is a classless act. It's cowardly and something Bob
might stoop to do.

If you want to lower yourself to that level.... consider the repercussions
it will have on your argument.

Suzanne is an attractive young lady.

CM



katysails September 12th 03 11:35 PM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
Youse guys aren't being nice. The only thing Susanne ever did that was =
questionable was to take up with Bobby.....Think of what a kind and =
generous person she must be to put up with him.

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


felton September 12th 03 11:58 PM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:35:11 -0400, "katysails"
wrote:

Youse guys aren't being nice. The only thing Susanne ever did that was questionable was to take up with Bobby.....Think of what a kind and generous person she must be to put up with him.


I agree, although the picture she used to have posted on the Russian
mail-order bride site was more flattering.:)

Horvath September 13th 03 12:20 PM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 17:58:52 -0500, felton felton wrote this crap:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:35:11 -0400, "katysails"
wrote:

Youse guys aren't being nice. The only thing Susanne ever did that was questionable was to take up with Bobby.....Think of what a kind and generous person she must be to put up with him.


I agree, although the picture she used to have posted on the Russian
mail-order bride site was more flattering.:)


You're so desperate that you go to the Russian mail-order bride site?

I could set you up with some of the babes from my strip club. How
much can you afford?




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Bertie the Bunyip September 13th 03 12:49 PM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
Horvath wrote in :

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 17:58:52 -0500, felton felton wrote this crap:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:35:11 -0400, "katysails"
wrote:

Youse guys aren't being nice. The only thing Susanne ever did that
was questionable was to take up with Bobby.....Think of what a kind
and generous person she must be to put up with him.


I agree, although the picture she used to have posted on the Russian
mail-order bride site was more flattering.:)


You're so desperate that you go to the Russian mail-order bride site?

I could set you up with some of the babes from my strip club. How
much can you afford?



Good post Horvath

Bertie

Thom Stewart September 13th 03 03:13 PM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
So Nutsy,

How do you like sailing a boat where you only have ONE string to look
after? Isn't it a real kick?

How do you like the Size of that Pole coming inside the cabin with you?

I like them but they always leave me with a feeling of not being able to
make a decision about them, Pro or Con

I really like the Cat Boat mentality but I'm not sure at what size a
sail should be split into another sail.

Why don't you get a troll going about split rigs?

Don't forget to have Susy get a Sun Sight when the Lat/Long is the same
as the actual geographic location, no sun correction. It is one of the
many dumb things I like to do. If nothing else it lets you see Leap Year
coming at you.

OT


felton September 13th 03 03:54 PM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
On 13 Sep 2003 11:20:08 GMT, Horvath wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 17:58:52 -0500, felton felton wrote this crap:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:35:11 -0400, "katysails"
wrote:

Youse guys aren't being nice. The only thing Susanne ever did that was questionable was to take up with Bobby.....Think of what a kind and generous person she must be to put up with him.


I agree, although the picture she used to have posted on the Russian
mail-order bride site was more flattering.:)


You're so desperate that you go to the Russian mail-order bride site?

I could set you up with some of the babes from my strip club. How
much can you afford?


Thanks for the offer. It's always good to hear other people's success
stories, but I think having a girlfriend who can be deported is the
way to go.



Marc September 13th 03 04:34 PM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
Not quite Tom. I may only have one line less than you (opposing jib
sheet) and posssibly more.
Main Halyard
Jib Halyard
Jib Sheet
Port and Stb'd Traveller
Vang
Ist Reef
2nd Reef
Main Sheet
Cunningham
Out Haul
Jib Down Haul
Preventer
Main Leach Cord
Jib Leach Cord

One of the nice features is that all controls, except for the leach
cords, preventer and jib down haul, lead to the starboard cockpit
forward.
Self tacking is a kick and single handing is a joy.

As for the mast butt, it is integrated into the V berth and is not an
issue.

The Freedom 36 is a catSloop with a 500sf main and a 190sf jib.

My next boat and the boat after that will be a Freedom.


On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 07:13:07 -0700 (PDT), (Thom
Stewart) wrote:

So Nutsy,

How do you like sailing a boat where you only have ONE string to look
after? Isn't it a real kick?

How do you like the Size of that Pole coming inside the cabin with you?

I like them but they always leave me with a feeling of not being able to
make a decision about them, Pro or Con

I really like the Cat Boat mentality but I'm not sure at what size a
sail should be split into another sail.

Why don't you get a troll going about split rigs?

Don't forget to have Susy get a Sun Sight when the Lat/Long is the same
as the actual geographic location, no sun correction. It is one of the
many dumb things I like to do. If nothing else it lets you see Leap Year
coming at you.

OT



Jonathan Ganz September 13th 03 05:59 PM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
Certainly more than you, and certainly never from a strip club.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 17:58:52 -0500, felton felton wrote this crap:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:35:11 -0400, "katysails"
wrote:

Youse guys aren't being nice. The only thing Susanne ever did that was

questionable was to take up with Bobby.....Think of what a kind and generous
person she must be to put up with him.

I agree, although the picture she used to have posted on the Russian
mail-order bride site was more flattering.:)


You're so desperate that you go to the Russian mail-order bride site?

I could set you up with some of the babes from my strip club. How
much can you afford?




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!




Jonathan Ganz September 13th 03 06:00 PM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
Now that's funny!

felton wrote in message ...
On 13 Sep 2003 11:20:08 GMT, Horvath wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 17:58:52 -0500, felton felton wrote this crap:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:35:11 -0400, "katysails"
wrote:

Youse guys aren't being nice. The only thing Susanne ever did that was

questionable was to take up with Bobby.....Think of what a kind and generous
person she must be to put up with him.

I agree, although the picture she used to have posted on the Russian
mail-order bride site was more flattering.:)


You're so desperate that you go to the Russian mail-order bride site?

I could set you up with some of the babes from my strip club. How
much can you afford?


Thanks for the offer. It's always good to hear other people's success
stories, but I think having a girlfriend who can be deported is the
way to go.





Bobsprit September 13th 03 06:24 PM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
How do you like sailing a boat where you only have ONE string to look
after? Isn't it a real kick?

The Freedom 36 has a self tending jib that still needs to be trimmed.
While I loved Marc's boat, it's not the boat for us at this stage. When we go
to a larger boat we want to have a faster hull. Marc is retired and has more
time, but the extra couple of knots from a 34xl would be useful for us and we
don't mind the extra work with the rig.
Apart from that I could easily see myself owning a Freedom down the road. It's
ideal for Marc's needs and is far more comfortable than I expected a 36 footer
could be. It feels like a 40-45' boat below and was just as roomy (more so?)
than the C&C 37xl (40') we boarded after the sail.

RB


Donal September 14th 03 12:11 AM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...


If you want to lower yourself to that level.... consider the

repercussions
it will have on your argument.

Suzanne is an attractive young lady.


You're showing your age, there, Mooron!

"young" is a relative term.

A 47 y/o woman might look young to you. That just says that you are at
least 48.



Regards


Donal
--





Donal September 14th 03 12:13 AM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 

felton wrote in message ...
but I think having a girlfriend who can be deported is the
way to go.



You *must* be married????


Regards


Donal
--




Horvath September 14th 03 12:38 AM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 09:54:24 -0500, felton felton wrote this crap:

You're so desperate that you go to the Russian mail-order bride site?

I could set you up with some of the babes from my strip club. How
much can you afford?


Thanks for the offer. It's always good to hear other people's success
stories, but I think having a girlfriend who can be deported is the
way to go.


Good plan! If you tire of her, or she just ****es you off,
deportation is only a phone call away. No laywers, no judges, no
strings. Way to go!




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Yardmouth September 14th 03 12:48 AM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
Horvath wrote in :

On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 09:59:48 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Certainly more than you, and certainly never from a strip club.


You go to those gay strip clubs, anyway.


It's never very far from your mind, is it?


Yardmouth

felton September 14th 03 04:51 AM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 00:13:28 +0100, "Donal"
wrote:


felton wrote in message ...
but I think having a girlfriend who can be deported is the
way to go.



You *must* be married????


Regards


Donal


Often, but not at present:) Never again will I be in a relationship
that requires me to move if things go South:)

Jonathan Ganz September 14th 03 06:36 AM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
Only in your fantasies.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 09:59:48 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Certainly more than you, and certainly never from a strip club.


You go to those gay strip clubs, anyway.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!




Eddie Bernard September 15th 03 10:37 PM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
Over the hills and far away in alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Bertie
the Bunyip came to play...

Horvath wrote in :

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 17:58:52 -0500, felton felton wrote this crap:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:35:11 -0400, "katysails"
wrote:

Youse guys aren't being nice. The only thing Susanne ever did that
was questionable was to take up with Bobby.....Think of what a kind
and generous person she must be to put up with him.

I agree, although the picture she used to have posted on the Russian
mail-order bride site was more flattering.:)


You're so desperate that you go to the Russian mail-order bride site?

I could set you up with some of the babes from my strip club. How
much can you afford?


Good post Horvath


Post of the century, I'd say.

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Dirk Bruere at Neopax September 15th 03 10:40 PM

Asatru resources
 


I invite other Asatruar to add their own, which I will then combine.
I would also appreciate info on failed links.
If anyone has objections to any site or org then mail me with precise
details.

Note that listed here are only a fraction of the available resources.
However, enough should exist here to enable you to find what I omit.

There is also a copy of this on my site at

http://www.neopax.com/asatru/AsatruResources.TXT

feel free to link to it if you're feeling lazy.

Also, this information can be copied/used in any way by anyone. I claim no
copyright over this list nor any intellectual property rights.


Mailing lists:
http://www.irminsul.org/as/aswlist.html THE list of lists
http://groups.yahoo.com/community/Our_Meadhall *Continuation of A_N_A
http://www.heathengyldas.com/ *AngloSaxon Heathenry
http://www.eskimo.com/~valkyrie/as/aslal.html *The Asatru-L list
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Asatru-U
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASHMAIL *Anglo-Saxon Heathen Mail List
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hagalazrunedance
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Heathenbooks *Beginning Lore Study Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galdrabok *Runes/magick
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HeathenHerbs *Herbalism
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HeathenParenting
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saxontroth
http://www.webcom.com/~lstead/asalist.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asynjur *Female aspects
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Asatru-Daily-Quiz
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Asatroth
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HammersandAttitudes *Hail Thor!
http://eGroups.com/group/nordisk_asetro *Nordisk Asetro
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Norse_Mythology
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Regintroth *Northvegr Félag
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Northern-Lore-Quiz/ *Daily quiz
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Well/ *The Well


Magazines
http://onn.dlhc.org/ *Odins Nation News
http://TheRunestone.com *The Runestone
http://stoneheathen.org *Stone Heathen and Wotans Watchtower
http://www.odinic-rite.org/orbonline.html *magazine section of Odinic Rite
http://www.heathenry.org/news/ *Heathen News - general
http://www.northvegr.org/leidstjarna/index.html *Journal of the Northern
Star
http://www.northvegr.org/tru/index.html *Asatru archeology
*Bearclaw mailed from the AFA

Organisations:

http://www.kith-of-yggdrasil.org *Kith of Yggdrasil (UK)
http://www.odinic-rite.org/ *The Odinic Rite
http://www.runestone.org/ *Asatru Folk Assembly
http://www.irminsul.org/ *Irminsul Aettir
http://www.ealdriht.org/ *Angelseaxisce Ealdriht Webpage
http://www.thetroth.org/ *The Troth
http://alliance.eagleut.com/ *Asatru Alliance
http://www.asatru.org/ *Asatru Alliance
http://www.mackaos.com.au/Pagan/AET.html *Assembly of the Elder Troth
http://www.friggasweb.org *Frigga's web
http://atschool.eduweb.co.uk/pbrough/stav/index.html *STAV - martial art
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atla...575/about.html *Wednesbury Theod
http://www.ciak.org/ *Confederation of Independent Asatru Kindreds
http://www.northvegr.org/ *Northvegr Félag (was Midhnott Sol)
http://www.europaltd.com/ *The Rune Gild
http://www.bifrost.no/ *Åsatrufellesskapet Bifrost
http://www.fornsidr.dk/ *Firn Siðr, Ase- og Vanesamfundet i Danmark
http://www.asatro.a.se/ *Sveriges Asatrosamfund
http://www.forn-sed.org/
http://www.astradyne.co.uk/midgard/ *Midgards Web
http://www.thorshof.org/
http://www.aswynn.co.uk/ *Freya Aswynn
http://www.kami.demon.co.uk/gesithas/ *The English Companions
http://www.vigrid.freeserve.co.uk/ *Wodens Folk (English)
http://www.heathenry.org/ *Norse Heathenry Society
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/5346/ *New Zealand Asatru Fellowship

Sites:

http://mail.surfamerica.net/~hewitt/contents.htm *Steve Hewitt's site
http://home.earthlink.net/~lavransrm/ *Marklander, Lavrans page
http://www.bcsupernet.com/users/wodan/ *Wodanesdag Press
http://home.columbus.rr.com/greatashkindred
http://www.asgardtroth.org *Asgard Troth
http://www.river-wood-samfelag.org
http://dmoz.org/Society/Religion_and...y/Pagan/Asatru *Staffan
Vilcans
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Foru...u/asalink.html *An Asatru
resources list
http://www.geocities.com/athens/forum/5346/ *New Zealand Fellowship
http://www.webcom.com/~lstead/RBValues.html *The Nine Virtues
http://members.tripod.com/redwolfs_hall/redwolf.htm *Redwolf's Hall
http://members.tripod.com/redwolfs_hall/projectmain.htm *The Union project*
http://www1.tip.nl/users/t887876/ *Nehelennia Sibbe
http://members.home.net/tagbarbarason/
http://www.runahof.fsnet.co.uk/
http://www.runenstab.de *German Runesites
http://www.runenring.de
http://www.imperia-europa.org/ *French site, very good technically
http://www.webcom.com/~lstead/Ravenbok.html *Raven kindred
http://www.asatru-online.de/ * Stilkam's Asatru-Online.de
http://www.geocities.com/osred/ *Odinism Australia
http://www.frostmaiden.com/VTA/main.htm *Vinland Tribal Alliance
http://www.angelfire.com/in2/iac/ *Indiana Asatru Council
http://www.heidendom.nl/ *Netherlands
http://www.arild-hauge.com/ *Norwegian site
http://www.candlepublishing.co.uk/frigg/index.htm *Fellowship of Frigg -
female aspects

Other:
http://www.geocities.com/hgraw/Nanagoat0.html *Poems and stories for young
children
http://www.runegild.org/runaraven1.html *Runa Raven Press

http://www.oxfordancestors.com *Genetic profiling on male and female lines
http://www.jelldragon.com *Excellent British source of Heathen goods
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/OMACL/ *Online Medieval And Classical Resources
http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/mythlinks.html *Germanic myths and legends
http://www.asatru.is/ *Asatru in Iceland
http://asatru.org/wrldtree.htm *World Tree Publications
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ye_Brewers_N_Cooks *Brewing and Cooking group
http://come.to/norse.com *Norse mythology
http://ealdriht.heathengyldas.com/personals/ *For romance and
friendship...?
http://ealdriht.heathengyldas.com/haligwaerstow *Haligwaerstow Priest Guild
http://www.solorb.com/gfc/mead//mead.html *Mead
http://www.midhnottsol.org/dictionary/index.html *An Asatru Dictionary
http://www.undernet.org /join #Asatru, IRC Undernet Chat
http://www.irminsul.org/ru/ru.html *Runelore
http://www.europaltd.com/ *Ritual items for sale
http://radio-asatru.org *RADIO ASATRU
http://members.aol.com/cbsunny/ *Mostly Runes, a good treatment!
http://www11.ewebcity.com/izekube/runes.asp *Your name in runes
http://members.aol.com/asoren/Heathen/Herbal.htm *Herbal resource list
http://www.geocities.com/folkway_tradehall/index.html *Folkway Tradehall
http://lorestore.org *New and used books
http://www.angelfire.com/mt/sifsbles...tunicslrg.html *Clothing
http://www.kami.demon.co.uk/gesithas/runes/fonts.html *Runic fonts
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare...557/fonts1.htm *Runic and other
fonts
http://huginn.ealdriht.org/ *Asatru Search Engine - find it here!
http://q.webring.com/hub?ring=asatruandheathen *Crafts webring
http://www.calontirtrim.com/ *Patterned trims for clothing
http://www.eddan.net/ *Eddas set to music




--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millennium
http://www.theconsensus.org



The_navigator© September 16th 03 12:50 AM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
I agree and have said as much as before. The fact that she took up
nursing shows that her mothering instinct are strong. She also likes
tending the sick and lame and Booby surely fits those needs too. A match
made in heaven I'd say!

Cheers MC

katysails wrote:

Youse guys aren't being nice. The only thing Susanne ever did that was questionable was to take up with Bobby.....Think of what a kind and generous person she must be to put up with him.



The_navigator© September 16th 03 12:51 AM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
Leave your avarice out of this!

Cheers MC

Horvath wrote:



I could set you up with some of the babes from my strip club. How
much can you afford?




Doug Freyburger September 16th 03 05:38 PM

At the Wheel of a Freedom
 
Eddie Bernard wrote"
Bertie the Bunyip came to play...

Good post Horvath


Post of the century, I'd say.


This is in response to a response to a troll with the
handle Bertie. In many cases he has chosen several
newsgroups to crosspost this thread to.

Please don't feed the trolls. It only feeds their
sick little egos and pollutes the newsgroups further.

Also, be kind to the mentally ill. Don't get into
battles with them. Bertie isn't just a regular troll,
he's spent years attacking alt.religion.asatru
hurling personal insults and false accusations. He
has done so using several accounts, too. Here's one.
A glance at the number of postings shows that he is
obsessive and paraniod:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...:A%40a.aaaaaa+

Note that he crossposts to get as many people
involved as possible, another indication of mental
illness. To show his level of obssession, glance at
the sheer number of troll postings he has done on
news:alt.religion.asatru (ARA):

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...eligion.asatru

That search will take you back as far as 2001, and it
will show many accounts he posts from, accounts that
he uses to have conversations with himself, and so on.
He has been trolling ARA since 1999. The man needs pity
and medical help.

One of his maccabre twists is that he accuses folks on
ARA of being Nazis. There was a heathen revival in
Germany and Austria in the 1920s and 10930s. Those
people were among the first targets the real Nazis sent
to their deaths in the concentration camps. The Jews
were targetted when Germany and Austria ran out of
heathens. Asatru and Nazism are polar opposites much
like Judaism and Nazism because of this. Most of the
documentation I've read about the pre-WWII Asatru
revival has been in print, so I welcome web references
the the writings of those who were killed in the camps.
The Asatru Alliance's quarterly Vor Tru ran a series on
them for several years.

What is Asatru really about, then? I follow the old
gods and goddesses known in northern Europe in the times
before Christianity came through. Thor and Sif, Odin
and Frigga, Ull and Skadhi and so on. Their adventures
are recorded in the myths of the Norse, Saxons, Goths
and so on across the sprectrum of Germanic peoples.

Like any religion, Asatru teaches a moral code. It has
lessons that lead a person to be a better person. It
has Lore that was passed down from generation to
generation until it contains lessons of everyday life.

Dirk Buerre posts a large list of links to various
Asatru resources. To give a quick idea of what Asatru
is and who Asatruar, I offer a few of the ones I
recommend to newcomers. I'm in the US so I'm most
interested in US resources, especially ones that span
borders:

http://www.thetroth.org/ *The Troth
http://www.friggasweb.org *Frigga's web
http://www.irminsul.org/ *Irminsul Aettir
http://alliance.eagleut.com/ *Asatru Alliance

The starting point for read are the Poetic Edda and
the Prose Edda which are the best preserved Norse
myths, and Saxo Grammaticus which contains mainland
European versions of the old tales:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...049972-9079868
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...049972-9079868
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...049972-9079868
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...049972-9079868
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books

Hail Asgard!
Doug Freyburger


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