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Capt.American September 9th 03 05:24 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/359134.stm


More than 150 people have been rescued during a regatta in Weymouth
Bay, Dorset, after 77 yachts capsized during a squall.


The BBC's Liz MacKean: "It was a dramatic end to the national
championships"
The sailors were knocked off their 18ft Dart catamarans by a
south-easterly wind of up to force 6.

But rescuers were quick to react and a mass launch of coastguard
helicopters and lifeboats went into action at about 1600 BST.

After three hours all 156 competitors had been accounted for.



Portland harbour masters rescue a capsized catamaran
A 37-year-old woman was airlifted to the Dorset County Hospital in
Dorchester suffering from hypothermia. Other reports suggest that as
many as 30 people needed treatment for the effects of the cold, and
Weymouth and District Hospital was still on major incident alert.

The local Weymouth lifeboat acted as co-ordinator, and used private
boats as a ferry service for the rescued people.

One of the survivors, yachtsman Mark Wray, said: "It was frightening
out there. The boats were flipping over. Everyone was concentrating on
getting ashore."

Unexpected weather

Coastguards and competitors alike have dismissed suggestions that the
race organisers might have been irresponsible.



No protection against the elements
"We are not meteorologists and you have to take into account that
forecasting squalls is somewhat difficult," said Mark Clark, a
spokesman for the Maritime Coastguard Agency.

"It is a professionally organised event, and they would have taken
account of the weather forecast before they put out."

Bob Fletcher, a former Olympic class sailor, also said the organisers
were not to blame.

"It certainly wasn't irresponsible because the standard of the field
that went out there are well capable of coping with almost anything.

"Everybody wears life-jackets and dry-suits but the rescue services
got concerned about the number of people in the water at the same
time."

But a local meteorological spokesman said that heavy winds had been
forecast before the race.

'We were caught out'

The chairman of the United Kingdom International Dart Association,
Richard Brown, himself capsized six times during the race along with
his 17-year-old son Oliver.

"We were caught out," he said. "We knew heavy weather was coming but
not until later. It just blew up."

He added: "The race organisers realised the number of boats that were
capsizing and alerted the coastguard and emergency services.

He insisted that all the competitors had been properly equipped with
buoyancy aids and dry suits.

He also said that rescue boats and larger yachts used by the
organisers had been on hand at various points along the triangular
course.

"We sail to the normal standards set by the Royal Yachting
Association," he said.

The catamarans involved were fairly small high-performance sailing
vessels, which would have been severely buffeted by the unexpected
squall.

The trampoline-like netting platform, which joins the hulls and
supports the crew, offers no protection against the sea or elements.

*********************************

Like I said, Cats are unstable and dangerious, should be used under
USCG supervision only.

Capt. American

Simple Simon September 9th 03 05:55 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
Proves my point but still idiots like Jeff Morris claim
catamarans don't capsize. Had it been a ballasted
monhull race none of them would have capsized.

S.Simon - knows catamarans are not really seaworthy.


"Capt.American" wrote in message om...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/359134.stm


More than 150 people have been rescued during a regatta in Weymouth
Bay, Dorset, after 77 yachts capsized during a squall.


The BBC's Liz MacKean: "It was a dramatic end to the national
championships"
The sailors were knocked off their 18ft Dart catamarans by a
south-easterly wind of up to force 6.

But rescuers were quick to react and a mass launch of coastguard
helicopters and lifeboats went into action at about 1600 BST.

After three hours all 156 competitors had been accounted for.



Portland harbour masters rescue a capsized catamaran
A 37-year-old woman was airlifted to the Dorset County Hospital in
Dorchester suffering from hypothermia. Other reports suggest that as
many as 30 people needed treatment for the effects of the cold, and
Weymouth and District Hospital was still on major incident alert.

The local Weymouth lifeboat acted as co-ordinator, and used private
boats as a ferry service for the rescued people.

One of the survivors, yachtsman Mark Wray, said: "It was frightening
out there. The boats were flipping over. Everyone was concentrating on
getting ashore."

Unexpected weather

Coastguards and competitors alike have dismissed suggestions that the
race organisers might have been irresponsible.



No protection against the elements
"We are not meteorologists and you have to take into account that
forecasting squalls is somewhat difficult," said Mark Clark, a
spokesman for the Maritime Coastguard Agency.

"It is a professionally organised event, and they would have taken
account of the weather forecast before they put out."

Bob Fletcher, a former Olympic class sailor, also said the organisers
were not to blame.

"It certainly wasn't irresponsible because the standard of the field
that went out there are well capable of coping with almost anything.

"Everybody wears life-jackets and dry-suits but the rescue services
got concerned about the number of people in the water at the same
time."

But a local meteorological spokesman said that heavy winds had been
forecast before the race.

'We were caught out'

The chairman of the United Kingdom International Dart Association,
Richard Brown, himself capsized six times during the race along with
his 17-year-old son Oliver.

"We were caught out," he said. "We knew heavy weather was coming but
not until later. It just blew up."

He added: "The race organisers realised the number of boats that were
capsizing and alerted the coastguard and emergency services.

He insisted that all the competitors had been properly equipped with
buoyancy aids and dry suits.

He also said that rescue boats and larger yachts used by the
organisers had been on hand at various points along the triangular
course.

"We sail to the normal standards set by the Royal Yachting
Association," he said.

The catamarans involved were fairly small high-performance sailing
vessels, which would have been severely buffeted by the unexpected
squall.

The trampoline-like netting platform, which joins the hulls and
supports the crew, offers no protection against the sea or elements.

*********************************

Like I said, Cats are unstable and dangerious, should be used under
USCG supervision only.

Capt. American




Bobsprit September 9th 03 05:56 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
Proves my point but still idiots like Jeff Morris claim
catamarans don't capsize. Had it been a ballasted
monhull race none of them would have capsized.

That race had big cruising cats in it?
Wow!!!!

Neal, even when you're close to making a point, you always blow it!

RB

Jeff Morris September 9th 03 06:02 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
Idiot! The Dart is an 18 foot beach cat, with a rather narrow 7.5 foot beam. Had they
been unballasted monohulls they still would have capsized.
http://www.dartcatamaran.ca/

Its typical the Neal the Lubber doesn't know the difference!

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Proves my point but still idiots like Jeff Morris claim
catamarans don't capsize. Had it been a ballasted
monhull race none of them would have capsized.

S.Simon - knows catamarans are not really seaworthy.


"Capt.American" wrote in message

om...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/359134.stm


More than 150 people have been rescued during a regatta in Weymouth
Bay, Dorset, after 77 yachts capsized during a squall.


The BBC's Liz MacKean: "It was a dramatic end to the national
championships"
The sailors were knocked off their 18ft Dart catamarans by a
south-easterly wind of up to force 6.

But rescuers were quick to react and a mass launch of coastguard
helicopters and lifeboats went into action at about 1600 BST.

After three hours all 156 competitors had been accounted for.



Portland harbour masters rescue a capsized catamaran
A 37-year-old woman was airlifted to the Dorset County Hospital in
Dorchester suffering from hypothermia. Other reports suggest that as
many as 30 people needed treatment for the effects of the cold, and
Weymouth and District Hospital was still on major incident alert.

The local Weymouth lifeboat acted as co-ordinator, and used private
boats as a ferry service for the rescued people.

One of the survivors, yachtsman Mark Wray, said: "It was frightening
out there. The boats were flipping over. Everyone was concentrating on
getting ashore."

Unexpected weather

Coastguards and competitors alike have dismissed suggestions that the
race organisers might have been irresponsible.



No protection against the elements
"We are not meteorologists and you have to take into account that
forecasting squalls is somewhat difficult," said Mark Clark, a
spokesman for the Maritime Coastguard Agency.

"It is a professionally organised event, and they would have taken
account of the weather forecast before they put out."

Bob Fletcher, a former Olympic class sailor, also said the organisers
were not to blame.

"It certainly wasn't irresponsible because the standard of the field
that went out there are well capable of coping with almost anything.

"Everybody wears life-jackets and dry-suits but the rescue services
got concerned about the number of people in the water at the same
time."

But a local meteorological spokesman said that heavy winds had been
forecast before the race.

'We were caught out'

The chairman of the United Kingdom International Dart Association,
Richard Brown, himself capsized six times during the race along with
his 17-year-old son Oliver.

"We were caught out," he said. "We knew heavy weather was coming but
not until later. It just blew up."

He added: "The race organisers realised the number of boats that were
capsizing and alerted the coastguard and emergency services.

He insisted that all the competitors had been properly equipped with
buoyancy aids and dry suits.

He also said that rescue boats and larger yachts used by the
organisers had been on hand at various points along the triangular
course.

"We sail to the normal standards set by the Royal Yachting
Association," he said.

The catamarans involved were fairly small high-performance sailing
vessels, which would have been severely buffeted by the unexpected
squall.

The trampoline-like netting platform, which joins the hulls and
supports the crew, offers no protection against the sea or elements.

*********************************

Like I said, Cats are unstable and dangerious, should be used under
USCG supervision only.

Capt. American






Simple Simon September 9th 03 06:08 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
A cat is a cat is a cat! The only difference between a
small one and a big one is it takes a little more wind
to capsize the big ones.

S.Simon - knows catamarans of all sizes are unsafe


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
Proves my point but still idiots like Jeff Morris claim
catamarans don't capsize. Had it been a ballasted
monhull race none of them would have capsized.

That race had big cruising cats in it?
Wow!!!!

Neal, even when you're close to making a point, you always blow it!

RB




Simple Simon September 9th 03 06:10 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 

A cat is a cat is a cat. You have small cats and you have large cats.
Both of them capsize more easily than a similar sized ballasted
monohull. What's so hard to understand about such an obvious
fact. Winds and seas get plenty big at sea to capsize even the
biggest catamaran ever made. Size is not the determining factor -
the faulty design of the things is!

S.Simon - trying his best to save lives at sea.


"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message ...
Idiot! The Dart is an 18 foot beach cat, with a rather narrow 7.5 foot beam. Had they
been unballasted monohulls they still would have capsized.
http://www.dartcatamaran.ca/

Its typical the Neal the Lubber doesn't know the difference!

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Proves my point but still idiots like Jeff Morris claim
catamarans don't capsize. Had it been a ballasted
monhull race none of them would have capsized.

S.Simon - knows catamarans are not really seaworthy.


"Capt.American" wrote in message

om...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/359134.stm


More than 150 people have been rescued during a regatta in Weymouth
Bay, Dorset, after 77 yachts capsized during a squall.


The BBC's Liz MacKean: "It was a dramatic end to the national
championships"
The sailors were knocked off their 18ft Dart catamarans by a
south-easterly wind of up to force 6.

But rescuers were quick to react and a mass launch of coastguard
helicopters and lifeboats went into action at about 1600 BST.

After three hours all 156 competitors had been accounted for.



Portland harbour masters rescue a capsized catamaran
A 37-year-old woman was airlifted to the Dorset County Hospital in
Dorchester suffering from hypothermia. Other reports suggest that as
many as 30 people needed treatment for the effects of the cold, and
Weymouth and District Hospital was still on major incident alert.

The local Weymouth lifeboat acted as co-ordinator, and used private
boats as a ferry service for the rescued people.

One of the survivors, yachtsman Mark Wray, said: "It was frightening
out there. The boats were flipping over. Everyone was concentrating on
getting ashore."

Unexpected weather

Coastguards and competitors alike have dismissed suggestions that the
race organisers might have been irresponsible.



No protection against the elements
"We are not meteorologists and you have to take into account that
forecasting squalls is somewhat difficult," said Mark Clark, a
spokesman for the Maritime Coastguard Agency.

"It is a professionally organised event, and they would have taken
account of the weather forecast before they put out."

Bob Fletcher, a former Olympic class sailor, also said the organisers
were not to blame.

"It certainly wasn't irresponsible because the standard of the field
that went out there are well capable of coping with almost anything.

"Everybody wears life-jackets and dry-suits but the rescue services
got concerned about the number of people in the water at the same
time."

But a local meteorological spokesman said that heavy winds had been
forecast before the race.

'We were caught out'

The chairman of the United Kingdom International Dart Association,
Richard Brown, himself capsized six times during the race along with
his 17-year-old son Oliver.

"We were caught out," he said. "We knew heavy weather was coming but
not until later. It just blew up."

He added: "The race organisers realised the number of boats that were
capsizing and alerted the coastguard and emergency services.

He insisted that all the competitors had been properly equipped with
buoyancy aids and dry suits.

He also said that rescue boats and larger yachts used by the
organisers had been on hand at various points along the triangular
course.

"We sail to the normal standards set by the Royal Yachting
Association," he said.

The catamarans involved were fairly small high-performance sailing
vessels, which would have been severely buffeted by the unexpected
squall.

The trampoline-like netting platform, which joins the hulls and
supports the crew, offers no protection against the sea or elements.

*********************************

Like I said, Cats are unstable and dangerious, should be used under
USCG supervision only.

Capt. American








Bobsprit September 9th 03 06:15 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
A cat is a cat is a cat! The only difference between a
small one and a big one is it takes a little more wind
to capsize the big ones.

Bwahahahahahaha!
This is the difference between Neal and I. He's willing to lie about sailing
and boats to troll and do so in a way that is actually harmful to any newbie
who happens by.
His comments about Cats capsizing have ZERO evidence and no credibility.
A big well designed Cat is as safe as most any other design. For coastal
cruising in relative confort it's simply can't be matched.
Neal would do well to buy one.

RB

Bobsprit September 9th 03 06:16 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
Its typical the Neal the Lubber doesn't know the difference!

He knows. He's angry and jealous.

Let it go. He thinks a Sunfish is more stable than a Hobie 16.

RB

Simple Simon September 9th 03 06:19 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
Zero evidence? Bwahahahahahahah. I guess you don't
think the link posted above is proof enough?

S.Simon - constantly kicking Booby's ass up one side
and down the other.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
A cat is a cat is a cat! The only difference between a
small one and a big one is it takes a little more wind
to capsize the big ones.

Bwahahahahahaha!
This is the difference between Neal and I. He's willing to lie about sailing
and boats to troll and do so in a way that is actually harmful to any newbie
who happens by.
His comments about Cats capsizing have ZERO evidence and no credibility.
A big well designed Cat is as safe as most any other design. For coastal
cruising in relative confort it's simply can't be matched.
Neal would do well to buy one.

RB




Bobsprit September 9th 03 06:24 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
Zero evidence? Bwahahahahahahah. I guess you don't
think the link posted above is proof enough?

There was a link about big cruising cats flipping? Please repost it!

RB

Simple Simon September 9th 03 06:43 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
Like I said before, a cat is a cat is a cat.

S.Simon - Booby's nemisis


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
Zero evidence? Bwahahahahahahah. I guess you don't
think the link posted above is proof enough?

There was a link about big cruising cats flipping? Please repost it!

RB




Donal September 9th 03 07:08 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 

"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/359134.stm


The catamarans involved were fairly small high-performance sailing
vessels, which would have been severely buffeted by the unexpected
squall.


Honestly, CA, If I didn't think that you were so stupid, I would think that
you were trolling!!

If that had been a fleet of Topper Buzz's or RS Vareo's then the result
would have been exactly the same.



The trampoline-like netting platform, which joins the hulls and
supports the crew, offers no protection against the sea or elements.


Neither does the trapeze on similiar high perfomance monohulls of the same
size.


Regards


Donal
--





Jonathan Ganz September 9th 03 08:02 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
If you're going to post the link, why do you copy and paste
the text also? Seems stupid and a waste of time.

"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/359134.stm


More than 150 people have been rescued during a regatta in Weymouth
Bay, Dorset, after 77 yachts capsized during a squall.


The BBC's Liz MacKean: "It was a dramatic end to the national
championships"
The sailors were knocked off their 18ft Dart catamarans by a
south-easterly wind of up to force 6.

But rescuers were quick to react and a mass launch of coastguard
helicopters and lifeboats went into action at about 1600 BST.

After three hours all 156 competitors had been accounted for.



Portland harbour masters rescue a capsized catamaran
A 37-year-old woman was airlifted to the Dorset County Hospital in
Dorchester suffering from hypothermia. Other reports suggest that as
many as 30 people needed treatment for the effects of the cold, and
Weymouth and District Hospital was still on major incident alert.

The local Weymouth lifeboat acted as co-ordinator, and used private
boats as a ferry service for the rescued people.

One of the survivors, yachtsman Mark Wray, said: "It was frightening
out there. The boats were flipping over. Everyone was concentrating on
getting ashore."

Unexpected weather

Coastguards and competitors alike have dismissed suggestions that the
race organisers might have been irresponsible.



No protection against the elements
"We are not meteorologists and you have to take into account that
forecasting squalls is somewhat difficult," said Mark Clark, a
spokesman for the Maritime Coastguard Agency.

"It is a professionally organised event, and they would have taken
account of the weather forecast before they put out."

Bob Fletcher, a former Olympic class sailor, also said the organisers
were not to blame.

"It certainly wasn't irresponsible because the standard of the field
that went out there are well capable of coping with almost anything.

"Everybody wears life-jackets and dry-suits but the rescue services
got concerned about the number of people in the water at the same
time."

But a local meteorological spokesman said that heavy winds had been
forecast before the race.

'We were caught out'

The chairman of the United Kingdom International Dart Association,
Richard Brown, himself capsized six times during the race along with
his 17-year-old son Oliver.

"We were caught out," he said. "We knew heavy weather was coming but
not until later. It just blew up."

He added: "The race organisers realised the number of boats that were
capsizing and alerted the coastguard and emergency services.

He insisted that all the competitors had been properly equipped with
buoyancy aids and dry suits.

He also said that rescue boats and larger yachts used by the
organisers had been on hand at various points along the triangular
course.

"We sail to the normal standards set by the Royal Yachting
Association," he said.

The catamarans involved were fairly small high-performance sailing
vessels, which would have been severely buffeted by the unexpected
squall.

The trampoline-like netting platform, which joins the hulls and
supports the crew, offers no protection against the sea or elements.

*********************************

Like I said, Cats are unstable and dangerious, should be used under
USCG supervision only.

Capt. American




Jonathan Ganz September 9th 03 08:03 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
BS. Not even close. Racing is a wholly different situation.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
A cat is a cat is a cat! The only difference between a
small one and a big one is it takes a little more wind
to capsize the big ones.

S.Simon - knows catamarans of all sizes are unsafe


"Bobsprit" wrote in message

...
Proves my point but still idiots like Jeff Morris claim
catamarans don't capsize. Had it been a ballasted
monhull race none of them would have capsized.

That race had big cruising cats in it?
Wow!!!!

Neal, even when you're close to making a point, you always blow it!

RB






Jonathan Ganz September 9th 03 08:03 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
It isn't. You're comparing apples to oranges.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Zero evidence? Bwahahahahahahah. I guess you don't
think the link posted above is proof enough?

S.Simon - constantly kicking Booby's ass up one side
and down the other.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

...
A cat is a cat is a cat! The only difference between a
small one and a big one is it takes a little more wind
to capsize the big ones.

Bwahahahahahaha!
This is the difference between Neal and I. He's willing to lie about

sailing
and boats to troll and do so in a way that is actually harmful to any

newbie
who happens by.
His comments about Cats capsizing have ZERO evidence and no credibility.
A big well designed Cat is as safe as most any other design. For coastal
cruising in relative confort it's simply can't be matched.
Neal would do well to buy one.

RB






Jonathan Ganz September 9th 03 08:05 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
It is on the back of a pickup, which is the only place
he's got experience with either.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Its typical the Neal the Lubber doesn't know the difference!

He knows. He's angry and jealous.

Let it go. He thinks a Sunfish is more stable than a Hobie 16.

RB




Joe Butcher September 9th 03 10:25 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
If you're going to post the link, why do you copy and paste
the text also? Seems stupid and a waste of time.



Thats cause your a self centered TOTALLY GAY queen of San Fran asshole
Gaynzy.

I posted a link just incase you wanted to see the pictures that are
with the story. Thats the only way boobsie believes anything.

Second, some people perfer not to have to go to another web-site and
back to a newsgroup, and all that english spam full of pictures of
crooked tooth salesmen can be annoying. I was trying to be nice and
save you the hassle of having to clean your cookies.

Capt. American








"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/359134.stm


More than 150 people have been rescued during a regatta in Weymouth
Bay, Dorset, after 77 yachts capsized during a squall.


The BBC's Liz MacKean: "It was a dramatic end to the national
championships"
The sailors were knocked off their 18ft Dart catamarans by a
south-easterly wind of up to force 6.

But rescuers were quick to react and a mass launch of coastguard
helicopters and lifeboats went into action at about 1600 BST.

After three hours all 156 competitors had been accounted for.



Portland harbour masters rescue a capsized catamaran
A 37-year-old woman was airlifted to the Dorset County Hospital in
Dorchester suffering from hypothermia. Other reports suggest that as
many as 30 people needed treatment for the effects of the cold, and
Weymouth and District Hospital was still on major incident alert.

The local Weymouth lifeboat acted as co-ordinator, and used private
boats as a ferry service for the rescued people.

One of the survivors, yachtsman Mark Wray, said: "It was frightening
out there. The boats were flipping over. Everyone was concentrating on
getting ashore."

Unexpected weather

Coastguards and competitors alike have dismissed suggestions that the
race organisers might have been irresponsible.



No protection against the elements
"We are not meteorologists and you have to take into account that
forecasting squalls is somewhat difficult," said Mark Clark, a
spokesman for the Maritime Coastguard Agency.

"It is a professionally organised event, and they would have taken
account of the weather forecast before they put out."

Bob Fletcher, a former Olympic class sailor, also said the organisers
were not to blame.

"It certainly wasn't irresponsible because the standard of the field
that went out there are well capable of coping with almost anything.

"Everybody wears life-jackets and dry-suits but the rescue services
got concerned about the number of people in the water at the same
time."

But a local meteorological spokesman said that heavy winds had been
forecast before the race.

'We were caught out'

The chairman of the United Kingdom International Dart Association,
Richard Brown, himself capsized six times during the race along with
his 17-year-old son Oliver.

"We were caught out," he said. "We knew heavy weather was coming but
not until later. It just blew up."

He added: "The race organisers realised the number of boats that were
capsizing and alerted the coastguard and emergency services.

He insisted that all the competitors had been properly equipped with
buoyancy aids and dry suits.

He also said that rescue boats and larger yachts used by the
organisers had been on hand at various points along the triangular
course.

"We sail to the normal standards set by the Royal Yachting
Association," he said.

The catamarans involved were fairly small high-performance sailing
vessels, which would have been severely buffeted by the unexpected
squall.

The trampoline-like netting platform, which joins the hulls and
supports the crew, offers no protection against the sea or elements.

*********************************

Like I said, Cats are unstable and dangerious, should be used under
USCG supervision only.

Capt. American


Simple Simon September 9th 03 10:35 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
Why don't you just pussyfoot around the issue . . .


"Joe Butcher" wrote in message om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
If you're going to post the link, why do you copy and paste
the text also? Seems stupid and a waste of time.



Thats cause your a self centered TOTALLY GAY queen of San Fran asshole
Gaynzy.

I posted a link just incase you wanted to see the pictures that are
with the story. Thats the only way boobsie believes anything.

Second, some people perfer not to have to go to another web-site and
back to a newsgroup, and all that english spam full of pictures of
crooked tooth salesmen can be annoying. I was trying to be nice and
save you the hassle of having to clean your cookies.

Capt. American








"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/359134.stm


More than 150 people have been rescued during a regatta in Weymouth
Bay, Dorset, after 77 yachts capsized during a squall.


The BBC's Liz MacKean: "It was a dramatic end to the national
championships"
The sailors were knocked off their 18ft Dart catamarans by a
south-easterly wind of up to force 6.

But rescuers were quick to react and a mass launch of coastguard
helicopters and lifeboats went into action at about 1600 BST.

After three hours all 156 competitors had been accounted for.



Portland harbour masters rescue a capsized catamaran
A 37-year-old woman was airlifted to the Dorset County Hospital in
Dorchester suffering from hypothermia. Other reports suggest that as
many as 30 people needed treatment for the effects of the cold, and
Weymouth and District Hospital was still on major incident alert.

The local Weymouth lifeboat acted as co-ordinator, and used private
boats as a ferry service for the rescued people.

One of the survivors, yachtsman Mark Wray, said: "It was frightening
out there. The boats were flipping over. Everyone was concentrating on
getting ashore."

Unexpected weather

Coastguards and competitors alike have dismissed suggestions that the
race organisers might have been irresponsible.



No protection against the elements
"We are not meteorologists and you have to take into account that
forecasting squalls is somewhat difficult," said Mark Clark, a
spokesman for the Maritime Coastguard Agency.

"It is a professionally organised event, and they would have taken
account of the weather forecast before they put out."

Bob Fletcher, a former Olympic class sailor, also said the organisers
were not to blame.

"It certainly wasn't irresponsible because the standard of the field
that went out there are well capable of coping with almost anything.

"Everybody wears life-jackets and dry-suits but the rescue services
got concerned about the number of people in the water at the same
time."

But a local meteorological spokesman said that heavy winds had been
forecast before the race.

'We were caught out'

The chairman of the United Kingdom International Dart Association,
Richard Brown, himself capsized six times during the race along with
his 17-year-old son Oliver.

"We were caught out," he said. "We knew heavy weather was coming but
not until later. It just blew up."

He added: "The race organisers realised the number of boats that were
capsizing and alerted the coastguard and emergency services.

He insisted that all the competitors had been properly equipped with
buoyancy aids and dry suits.

He also said that rescue boats and larger yachts used by the
organisers had been on hand at various points along the triangular
course.

"We sail to the normal standards set by the Royal Yachting
Association," he said.

The catamarans involved were fairly small high-performance sailing
vessels, which would have been severely buffeted by the unexpected
squall.

The trampoline-like netting platform, which joins the hulls and
supports the crew, offers no protection against the sea or elements.

*********************************

Like I said, Cats are unstable and dangerious, should be used under
USCG supervision only.

Capt. American




Capt.American September 9th 03 10:36 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...
Proves my point but still idiots like Jeff Morris claim
catamarans don't capsize. Had it been a ballasted
monhull race none of them would have capsized.

That race had big cruising cats in it?
Wow!!!!

Neal, even when you're close to making a point, you always blow it!

RB



HEY RB,

The point is they all flipped over. One guy flipped 7 times!

And the reported did say Yachts!

Capt. American

Capt.American September 9th 03 10:41 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/359134.stm


The catamarans involved were fairly small high-performance sailing
vessels, which would have been severely buffeted by the unexpected
squall.


Honestly, CA, If I didn't think that you were so stupid, I would think that
you were trolling!!



I never troll NG's




If that had been a fleet of Topper Buzz's or RS Vareo's then the result
would have been exactly the same.



So.




The trampoline-like netting platform, which joins the hulls and
supports the crew, offers no protection against the sea or elements.


Neither does the trapeze on similiar high perfomance monohulls of the same
size.


And.




Regards


Donal
--



Capt. American and thanks for the Hankerchief suggestion

katysails September 9th 03 10:41 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
So the truth outs at last....Capt American is really the nefarious Joe =
Butcher....so how is Terri these days? Has she learned how to spell =
yet? Or did she move on to other waters?

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Capt.American September 9th 03 10:44 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
If you're going to post the link, why do you copy and paste
the text also? Seems stupid and a waste of time.


4U2C and read everything dunce.

CA


"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/359134.stm


More than 150 people have been rescued during a regatta in Weymouth
Bay, Dorset, after 77 yachts capsized during a squall.


The BBC's Liz MacKean: "It was a dramatic end to the national
championships"
The sailors were knocked off their 18ft Dart catamarans by a
south-easterly wind of up to force 6.

But rescuers were quick to react and a mass launch of coastguard
helicopters and lifeboats went into action at about 1600 BST.

After three hours all 156 competitors had been accounted for.



Portland harbour masters rescue a capsized catamaran
A 37-year-old woman was airlifted to the Dorset County Hospital in
Dorchester suffering from hypothermia. Other reports suggest that as
many as 30 people needed treatment for the effects of the cold, and
Weymouth and District Hospital was still on major incident alert.

The local Weymouth lifeboat acted as co-ordinator, and used private
boats as a ferry service for the rescued people.

One of the survivors, yachtsman Mark Wray, said: "It was frightening
out there. The boats were flipping over. Everyone was concentrating on
getting ashore."

Unexpected weather

Coastguards and competitors alike have dismissed suggestions that the
race organisers might have been irresponsible.



No protection against the elements
"We are not meteorologists and you have to take into account that
forecasting squalls is somewhat difficult," said Mark Clark, a
spokesman for the Maritime Coastguard Agency.

"It is a professionally organised event, and they would have taken
account of the weather forecast before they put out."

Bob Fletcher, a former Olympic class sailor, also said the organisers
were not to blame.

"It certainly wasn't irresponsible because the standard of the field
that went out there are well capable of coping with almost anything.

"Everybody wears life-jackets and dry-suits but the rescue services
got concerned about the number of people in the water at the same
time."

But a local meteorological spokesman said that heavy winds had been
forecast before the race.

'We were caught out'

The chairman of the United Kingdom International Dart Association,
Richard Brown, himself capsized six times during the race along with
his 17-year-old son Oliver.

"We were caught out," he said. "We knew heavy weather was coming but
not until later. It just blew up."

He added: "The race organisers realised the number of boats that were
capsizing and alerted the coastguard and emergency services.

He insisted that all the competitors had been properly equipped with
buoyancy aids and dry suits.

He also said that rescue boats and larger yachts used by the
organisers had been on hand at various points along the triangular
course.

"We sail to the normal standards set by the Royal Yachting
Association," he said.

The catamarans involved were fairly small high-performance sailing
vessels, which would have been severely buffeted by the unexpected
squall.

The trampoline-like netting platform, which joins the hulls and
supports the crew, offers no protection against the sea or elements.

*********************************

Like I said, Cats are unstable and dangerious, should be used under
USCG supervision only.

Capt. American


DSK September 9th 03 10:50 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 


"Capt.American" wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/359134.stm

More than 150 people have been rescued during a regatta in Weymouth
Bay, Dorset, after 77 yachts capsized during a squall.


That was a quite a while ago.

These were beach cats, knucklehead. They are as much like cruising
multihulls as a Sunfish is like an IACC class racer.



Like I said, Cats are unstable and dangerious, should be used under
USCG supervision only.


Considering what would likely happen to you, if you were put in a
something like a 505 or a Johnson 18, and hit by a Force 4 much less 6,
you have no credibility whatever talking about catamaran sailing. You own
a heavy cow barn of a boat, what makes you think you this qualifies you to
talk about racing classes?

DSK


Simple Simon September 9th 03 10:53 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 


You're trying to reason with a couple of stupid Democrats.

They can't think any more clearly about boats than they can
about politics. They have little common sense and no logic.

Booby and Morris are hopeless. You shove proof of the
instability of catamarans right in their pimply faces and they
make excuses like "Well, they were small cats and they
were racing and it doesn't count!" What weenies! the point
is catamarans of all sizes are more stable capsized than
right side up. This is exactly the opposite of a ballasted
monohull. That fact alone should be proof enough for them.

But, noooooooo . . .

Then they come back with, "Well, I'd rather be upside down
clinging to my cat or living inside the swamped hulls than drowned
at bottom with my sunk monohull". They claim positive flotation
for multihulls when this is only the case for some of the smallerones
and those designed with multiple watertight bulkheads, etc. They don't
seem to think that monohulls can be built and sailed with positive
flotation as well. Further, they don't seem to realize that even the
biggest multihull is small compared to some of the winds and waves
they'll encounter in a storm at sea. Losers!

S.Simon


"Capt.American" wrote in message om...
(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...
Proves my point but still idiots like Jeff Morris claim
catamarans don't capsize. Had it been a ballasted
monhull race none of them would have capsized.

That race had big cruising cats in it?
Wow!!!!

Neal, even when you're close to making a point, you always blow it!

RB



HEY RB,

The point is they all flipped over. One guy flipped 7 times!

And the reported did say Yachts!

Capt. American




Simple Simon September 9th 03 10:59 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
Terry of fame? She was a hoot. Much more fun
than you, Katy. I hope Joe didn't stangle her or something . . .

S.Simon


"katysails" wrote in message ...
So the truth outs at last....Capt American is really the nefarious Joe Butcher....so how is Terri these days? Has she learned
how to spell yet? Or did she move on to other waters?

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Lady Pilot September 9th 03 11:28 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 

"Simple Simon" wrote:

A cat is a cat is a cat.


Yeah, I have a cat too! hehee

LP (don't let your minds fall in the gutter)



NH_/\)_ September 9th 03 11:59 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
was this guy one of them teehee
http://www.geocities.com/hobiegary/SRMystere.html

NH_/)_




"Capt.American" wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/359134.stm

More than 150 people have been rescued during a regatta in Weymouth
Bay, Dorset, after 77 yachts capsized during a squall.


That was a quite a while ago.

These were beach cats, knucklehead. They are as much like cruising
multihulls as a Sunfish is like an IACC class racer.



Like I said, Cats are unstable and dangerious, should be used under
USCG supervision only.


Considering what would likely happen to you, if you were put in a
something like a 505 or a Johnson 18, and hit by a Force 4 much less 6,
you have no credibility whatever talking about catamaran sailing. You own
a heavy cow barn of a boat, what makes you think you this qualifies you to
talk about racing classes?

DSK





Simple Simon September 10th 03 12:04 AM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 

"The Captains Master" wrote in message ...
On 09 Sep 2003 17:15:16 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:
Actually the difference is that you are at least prepared to learn.
Cappy has learned nothing new since the 60's


There's one thing I've learned recently. It makes the
newsgroup less of a waste of time . . .

Your posts are all a big waste of my time! PLONK!



Donal September 10th 03 12:10 AM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 

"Joe Butcher" wrote in message

Second, some people perfer not to have to go to another web-site and
back to a newsgroup, and all that english spam full of pictures of
crooked tooth salesmen can be annoying. I was trying to be nice and
save you the hassle of having to clean your cookies.


Quite right!

I don't usually bother to follow links, so I appreciate it when people post
some text.




Capt. American



Is that really you? I thought that you were on the East coast?



Regards


Donal
--




Capt. Mooron September 10th 03 12:18 AM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
Try that on a Hobie 18... good luck! I always carried a collapsible
rubber bucket and used that to increase my leverage.

CM

"NH_/)_" wrote in message
om...
| was this guy one of them teehee
| http://www.geocities.com/hobiegary/SRMystere.html
|
| NH_/)_
|
|
|
|
| "Capt.American" wrote:
|
| http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/359134.stm
|
| More than 150 people have been rescued during a regatta in Weymouth
| Bay, Dorset, after 77 yachts capsized during a squall.
|
| That was a quite a while ago.
|
| These were beach cats, knucklehead. They are as much like cruising
| multihulls as a Sunfish is like an IACC class racer.
|
|
|
| Like I said, Cats are unstable and dangerious, should be used under
| USCG supervision only.
|
| Considering what would likely happen to you, if you were put in a
| something like a 505 or a Johnson 18, and hit by a Force 4 much less 6,
| you have no credibility whatever talking about catamaran sailing. You
own
| a heavy cow barn of a boat, what makes you think you this qualifies you
to
| talk about racing classes?
|
| DSK
|
|
|
|



Horvath September 10th 03 01:15 AM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Cats
 
On 09 Sep 2003 17:15:16 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this
crap:

A cat is a cat is a cat! The only difference between a
small one and a big one is it takes a little more wind
to capsize the big ones.

Bwahahahahahaha!
This is the difference between Neal and I. He's willing to lie about sailing
and boats to troll and do so in a way that is actually harmful to any newbie
who happens by.
His comments about Cats capsizing have ZERO evidence and no credibility.
A big well designed Cat is as safe as most any other design. For coastal
cruising in relative confort it's simply can't be matched.
Neal would do well to buy one.

RB


At my yacht club, there's lots of cats on the beach. Most have a
football-shaped float at the top of the mast. I was told that when
they flip over, this helps get them upright, and keeps the stick from
digging into the bottom.

If cats don't flip over, then why is the float at the top of the mast?




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Jonathan Ganz September 10th 03 04:28 AM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Cats
 
It's not possible Oz. He's a fool.

"The Captains Nemesis" wrote in message
...
On 10 Sep 2003 00:15:31 GMT, Horvath wrote:

At my yacht club, there's lots of cats on the beach. Most have a
football-shaped float at the top of the mast. I was told that when
they flip over, this helps get them upright, and keeps the stick from
digging into the bottom.

If cats don't flip over, then why is the float at the top of the mast?


Try to keep up Holly...please.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





Capt. Mooron September 10th 03 01:36 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Cats
 

"Horvath" wrote in message
| At my yacht club, there's lots of cats on the beach. Most have a
| football-shaped float at the top of the mast. I was told that when
| they flip over, this helps get them upright, and keeps the stick from
| digging into the bottom.
|
| If cats don't flip over, then why is the float at the top of the mast?

Easy Horvath... those are for the people that can't afford the newer high
tech inflatable sails.

CM



Capt.American September 10th 03 02:48 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
(Joe Butcher) wrote in message . com...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
If you're going to post the link, why do you copy and paste
the text also? Seems stupid and a waste of time.



Thats cause your a self centered TOTALLY GAY queen of San Fran asshole
Gaynzy.

I posted a link just incase you wanted to see the pictures that are
with the story. Thats the only way boobsie believes anything.

Second, some people perfer not to have to go to another web-site and
back to a newsgroup, and all that english spam full of pictures of
crooked tooth salesmen can be annoying. I was trying to be nice and
save you the hassle of having to clean your cookies.

Capt. American


Thanks Joe, I concur, but if gay boy ganz need a slap I'll do it!


Capt.American















"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/359134.stm


More than 150 people have been rescued during a regatta in Weymouth
Bay, Dorset, after 77 yachts capsized during a squall.


The BBC's Liz MacKean: "It was a dramatic end to the national
championships"
The sailors were knocked off their 18ft Dart catamarans by a
south-easterly wind of up to force 6.

But rescuers were quick to react and a mass launch of coastguard
helicopters and lifeboats went into action at about 1600 BST.

After three hours all 156 competitors had been accounted for.



Portland harbour masters rescue a capsized catamaran
A 37-year-old woman was airlifted to the Dorset County Hospital in
Dorchester suffering from hypothermia. Other reports suggest that as
many as 30 people needed treatment for the effects of the cold, and
Weymouth and District Hospital was still on major incident alert.

The local Weymouth lifeboat acted as co-ordinator, and used private
boats as a ferry service for the rescued people.

One of the survivors, yachtsman Mark Wray, said: "It was frightening
out there. The boats were flipping over. Everyone was concentrating on
getting ashore."

Unexpected weather

Coastguards and competitors alike have dismissed suggestions that the
race organisers might have been irresponsible.



No protection against the elements
"We are not meteorologists and you have to take into account that
forecasting squalls is somewhat difficult," said Mark Clark, a
spokesman for the Maritime Coastguard Agency.

"It is a professionally organised event, and they would have taken
account of the weather forecast before they put out."

Bob Fletcher, a former Olympic class sailor, also said the organisers
were not to blame.

"It certainly wasn't irresponsible because the standard of the field
that went out there are well capable of coping with almost anything.

"Everybody wears life-jackets and dry-suits but the rescue services
got concerned about the number of people in the water at the same
time."

But a local meteorological spokesman said that heavy winds had been
forecast before the race.

'We were caught out'

The chairman of the United Kingdom International Dart Association,
Richard Brown, himself capsized six times during the race along with
his 17-year-old son Oliver.

"We were caught out," he said. "We knew heavy weather was coming but
not until later. It just blew up."

He added: "The race organisers realised the number of boats that were
capsizing and alerted the coastguard and emergency services.

He insisted that all the competitors had been properly equipped with
buoyancy aids and dry suits.

He also said that rescue boats and larger yachts used by the
organisers had been on hand at various points along the triangular
course.

"We sail to the normal standards set by the Royal Yachting
Association," he said.

The catamarans involved were fairly small high-performance sailing
vessels, which would have been severely buffeted by the unexpected
squall.

The trampoline-like netting platform, which joins the hulls and
supports the crew, offers no protection against the sea or elements.

*********************************

Like I said, Cats are unstable and dangerious, should be used under
USCG supervision only.

Capt. American


Capt.American September 10th 03 03:02 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
"katysails" wrote in message ...
So the truth outs at last....Capt American is really the nefarious Joe
Butcher....so how is Terri these days? Has she learned how to spell
yet? Or did she move on to other waters?



Yes I must confess, Im also Gilligan, Babs, Bobspirt, Scotty, Loco,
and yes Terri. Sorry if this upsets anyone.

Capt. American~alias Joe, Gilligan, Babs, loco, Scotty, Terri and 7 or
8 others.

katysails September 10th 03 11:17 PM

They all capsized ~Regatta of Fools!
 
Yes I must confess, Im also Gilligan, Babs, Bobspirt, Scotty, Loco,
and yes Terri. Sorry if this upsets anyone.

You're also a liar. Except about also being Terri. Everyone knows I'm =
really Gilligan and Babs and Per and Donal.

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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