Idiot! The Dart is an 18 foot beach cat, with a rather narrow 7.5 foot beam. Had they
been unballasted monohulls they still would have capsized.
http://www.dartcatamaran.ca/

Its typical the Neal the Lubber doesn't know the difference!

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Proves my point but still idiots like Jeff Morris claim
catamarans don't capsize. Had it been a ballasted
monhull race none of them would have capsized.

S.Simon - knows catamarans are not really seaworthy.


"Capt.American" wrote in message
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/359134.stm


More than 150 people have been rescued during a regatta in Weymouth
Bay, Dorset, after 77 yachts capsized during a squall.


The BBC's Liz MacKean: "It was a dramatic end to the national
championships"
The sailors were knocked off their 18ft Dart catamarans by a
south-easterly wind of up to force 6.

But rescuers were quick to react and a mass launch of coastguard
helicopters and lifeboats went into action at about 1600 BST.

After three hours all 156 competitors had been accounted for.



Portland harbour masters rescue a capsized catamaran
A 37-year-old woman was airlifted to the Dorset County Hospital in
Dorchester suffering from hypothermia. Other reports suggest that as
many as 30 people needed treatment for the effects of the cold, and
Weymouth and District Hospital was still on major incident alert.

The local Weymouth lifeboat acted as co-ordinator, and used private
boats as a ferry service for the rescued people.

One of the survivors, yachtsman Mark Wray, said: "It was frightening
out there. The boats were flipping over. Everyone was concentrating on
getting ashore."

Unexpected weather

Coastguards and competitors alike have dismissed suggestions that the
race organisers might have been irresponsible.



No protection against the elements
"We are not meteorologists and you have to take into account that
forecasting squalls is somewhat difficult," said Mark Clark, a
spokesman for the Maritime Coastguard Agency.

"It is a professionally organised event, and they would have taken
account of the weather forecast before they put out."

Bob Fletcher, a former Olympic class sailor, also said the organisers
were not to blame.

"It certainly wasn't irresponsible because the standard of the field
that went out there are well capable of coping with almost anything.

"Everybody wears life-jackets and dry-suits but the rescue services
got concerned about the number of people in the water at the same
time."

But a local meteorological spokesman said that heavy winds had been
forecast before the race.

'We were caught out'

The chairman of the United Kingdom International Dart Association,
Richard Brown, himself capsized six times during the race along with
his 17-year-old son Oliver.

"We were caught out," he said. "We knew heavy weather was coming but
not until later. It just blew up."

He added: "The race organisers realised the number of boats that were
capsizing and alerted the coastguard and emergency services.

He insisted that all the competitors had been properly equipped with
buoyancy aids and dry suits.

He also said that rescue boats and larger yachts used by the
organisers had been on hand at various points along the triangular
course.

"We sail to the normal standards set by the Royal Yachting
Association," he said.

The catamarans involved were fairly small high-performance sailing
vessels, which would have been severely buffeted by the unexpected
squall.

The trampoline-like netting platform, which joins the hulls and
supports the crew, offers no protection against the sea or elements.

*********************************

Like I said, Cats are unstable and dangerious, should be used under
USCG supervision only.

Capt. American

A cat is a cat is a cat. You have small cats and you have large cats.
Both of them capsize more easily than a similar sized ballasted
monohull. What's so hard to understand about such an obvious
fact. Winds and seas get plenty big at sea to capsize even the
biggest catamaran ever made. Size is not the determining factor -
the faulty design of the things is!

S.Simon - trying his best to save lives at sea.


"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message ...
Idiot! The Dart is an 18 foot beach cat, with a rather narrow 7.5 foot beam. Had they
been unballasted monohulls they still would have capsized.
http://www.dartcatamaran.ca/

Its typical the Neal the Lubber doesn't know the difference!

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Proves my point but still idiots like Jeff Morris claim
catamarans don't capsize. Had it been a ballasted
monhull race none of them would have capsized.

S.Simon - knows catamarans are not really seaworthy.


"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/359134.stm


More than 150 people have been rescued during a regatta in Weymouth
Bay, Dorset, after 77 yachts capsized during a squall.


The BBC's Liz MacKean: "It was a dramatic end to the national
championships"
The sailors were knocked off their 18ft Dart catamarans by a
south-easterly wind of up to force 6.

But rescuers were quick to react and a mass launch of coastguard
helicopters and lifeboats went into action at about 1600 BST.

After three hours all 156 competitors had been accounted for.



Portland harbour masters rescue a capsized catamaran
A 37-year-old woman was airlifted to the Dorset County Hospital in
Dorchester suffering from hypothermia. Other reports suggest that as
many as 30 people needed treatment for the effects of the cold, and
Weymouth and District Hospital was still on major incident alert.

The local Weymouth lifeboat acted as co-ordinator, and used private
boats as a ferry service for the rescued people.

One of the survivors, yachtsman Mark Wray, said: "It was frightening
out there. The boats were flipping over. Everyone was concentrating on
getting ashore."

Unexpected weather

Coastguards and competitors alike have dismissed suggestions that the
race organisers might have been irresponsible.



No protection against the elements
"We are not meteorologists and you have to take into account that
forecasting squalls is somewhat difficult," said Mark Clark, a
spokesman for the Maritime Coastguard Agency.

"It is a professionally organised event, and they would have taken
account of the weather forecast before they put out."

Bob Fletcher, a former Olympic class sailor, also said the organisers
were not to blame.

"It certainly wasn't irresponsible because the standard of the field
that went out there are well capable of coping with almost anything.

"Everybody wears life-jackets and dry-suits but the rescue services
got concerned about the number of people in the water at the same
time."

But a local meteorological spokesman said that heavy winds had been
forecast before the race.

'We were caught out'

The chairman of the United Kingdom International Dart Association,
Richard Brown, himself capsized six times during the race along with
his 17-year-old son Oliver.

"We were caught out," he said. "We knew heavy weather was coming but
not until later. It just blew up."

He added: "The race organisers realised the number of boats that were
capsizing and alerted the coastguard and emergency services.

He insisted that all the competitors had been properly equipped with
buoyancy aids and dry suits.

He also said that rescue boats and larger yachts used by the
organisers had been on hand at various points along the triangular
course.

"We sail to the normal standards set by the Royal Yachting
Association," he said.

The catamarans involved were fairly small high-performance sailing
vessels, which would have been severely buffeted by the unexpected
squall.

The trampoline-like netting platform, which joins the hulls and
supports the crew, offers no protection against the sea or elements.

*********************************

Like I said, Cats are unstable and dangerious, should be used under
USCG supervision only.

Capt. American

Its typical the Neal the Lubber doesn't know the difference!

He knows. He's angry and jealous.

Let it go. He thinks a Sunfish is more stable than a Hobie 16.

RB

It is on the back of a pickup, which is the only place
he's got experience with either.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Its typical the Neal the Lubber doesn't know the difference!

He knows. He's angry and jealous.

Let it go. He thinks a Sunfish is more stable than a Hobie 16.

RB

"Simple Simon" wrote:

A cat is a cat is a cat.

Yeah, I have a cat too! hehee

LP (don't let your minds fall in the gutter)

"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/359134.stm

The catamarans involved were fairly small high-performance sailing
vessels, which would have been severely buffeted by the unexpected
squall.

Honestly, CA, If I didn't think that you were so stupid, I would think that
you were trolling!!

If that had been a fleet of Topper Buzz's or RS Vareo's then the result
would have been exactly the same.



The trampoline-like netting platform, which joins the hulls and
supports the crew, offers no protection against the sea or elements.

Neither does the trapeze on similiar high perfomance monohulls of the same
size.


Regards


Donal
--

"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/359134.stm

The catamarans involved were fairly small high-performance sailing
vessels, which would have been severely buffeted by the unexpected
squall.

Honestly, CA, If I didn't think that you were so stupid, I would think that
you were trolling!!


I never troll NG's




If that had been a fleet of Topper Buzz's or RS Vareo's then the result
would have been exactly the same.


So.




The trampoline-like netting platform, which joins the hulls and
supports the crew, offers no protection against the sea or elements.

Neither does the trapeze on similiar high perfomance monohulls of the same
size.

And.




Regards


Donal
--


Capt. American and thanks for the Hankerchief suggestion

So the truth outs at last....Capt American is really the nefarious Joe =
Butcher....so how is Terri these days? Has she learned how to spell =
yet? Or did she move on to other waters?

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Terry of fame? She was a hoot. Much more fun
than you, Katy. I hope Joe didn't stangle her or something . . .

S.Simon


"katysails" wrote in message ...
So the truth outs at last....Capt American is really the nefarious Joe Butcher....so how is Terri these days? Has she learned
how to spell yet? Or did she move on to other waters?

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

"katysails" wrote in message ...
So the truth outs at last....Capt American is really the nefarious Joe
Butcher....so how is Terri these days? Has she learned how to spell
yet? Or did she move on to other waters?


Yes I must confess, Im also Gilligan, Babs, Bobspirt, Scotty, Loco,
and yes Terri. Sorry if this upsets anyone.

Capt. American~alias Joe, Gilligan, Babs, loco, Scotty, Terri and 7 or
8 others.