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Pics of some fond memories.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...88888637udZpWz

I am tempted to email some of these shots to some of our old Lightning
rivals, but that would be a bit childish even for me....

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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"DSK" wrote in message
...
Pics of some fond memories.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...88888637udZpWz

I am tempted to email some of these shots to some of our old Lightning
rivals, but that would be a bit childish even for me....

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



The Autumn Morning photo is fantastic. I'm going to print it at work
tomorrow to see how it comes out.
http://community.webshots.com/s/imag...5PWxyGu_fs.jpg


Regards


Donal
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The Captains Master wrote:


You stayed in front with a spinnaker set like that??
Amazing!

You talking set or trim? Our sets were usually a tad slow but clean &
methodical.

Actually, the spinnaker trim is quite good, pulled in a little too close
against the forestay. The vang needs to be eased and the boat rolled
slightly to windward (most people overdo windward heel). My wife needs to
be looking up at the chute instead of down, but she is probably cleaning up
lines after the set. The forward hand needs to sit down and pay attention,
though.

You probably are looking at the pole thinking it's too high, which is a
mistake many spinnaker trimmers make. Get it UP! The curl should be up on
the shoulder, like it is here. Buddy Melges says so and I have found it
gives better speed.

You can see by the wakes that we are going a lot faster than the pack of
boats behind. This particular race I remember well because we won by miles.
Partly due to luck in opening up just as the wind freshened & shifted. The
next race we ended up with a 2nd but were OCS along with about 5 other
boats. The day finished up with a terrific thunderstorm that is still quite
a vivid memory.

Sometimes I give serious thought to getting back into racing Lightnings.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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Donal wrote:


The Autumn Morning photo is fantastic. I'm going to print it at work
tomorrow to see how it comes out.
http://community.webshots.com/s/imag...5PWxyGu_fs.jpg


Thanks, Donal. My father took that picture and is quite proud of it. I'll
forward your comments, it's one of my favorites too. A 2'x2' blowup of it
hangs in our front hall.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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Looks like a lot of fun. good pics!
John Cairns
"DSK" wrote in message
...
Pics of some fond memories.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...88888637udZpWz

I am tempted to email some of these shots to some of our old Lightning
rivals, but that would be a bit childish even for me....

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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The Captains Master wrote:


Hmm tyhe vang yes, but I was more thinking of the way the head has
closed up as the mid luff sags.

Huh? There's nothing sagging noplace! Are we looking at the same picture??

Actually I was expecting some non flattering remarks about our douse & rounding
in the next pic, it was not at all smooth or timely. But fact is we did jump two
places there so it couldn't have been too bad.... actually we usually picked up
a spot or two at leeward marks... I was bummed when they went to gates!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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John Cairns wrote:

Looks like a lot of fun. good pics!

Thanks John

DSK

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Huh? There's nothing sagging noplace! Are we looking at the same picture??


The Captains Master wrote:
Yep, the one of Plummer in front of the fleet.
Head is not filled out at all which would pull that sagged luff back
in.

Nope, sorry. What you're looking at is a small curl 'way up on the shoulder of the
luff. No sag.

Lighting spinnakers (and I believe Etchells spinnakers are similar) are very full up
high. If there is any sagging in the upper part of the sail, a big crease forms down
the center, that's where the sail collapses first in too light air. One remedy is to
lower the pole but that's not a 100% sure cure.

My spinnaker techniques are not conventional, but most of the time we're among the
fastest boats off the wind. I've heard a lot of people say "your spinnaker is trimmed
wrong" as we pass them. Kind of funny........




Actually I was expecting some non flattering remarks about our douse & rounding
in the next pic, it was not at all smooth or timely. But fact is we did jump two
places there so it couldn't have been too bad.... actually we usually picked up
a spot or two at leeward marks... I was bummed when they went to gates!



Yep a good move but you've gotta watch the guys without a clue who
harded up onto you before you get around.

That's why God gave me lungs.... to shout "ROOM, DAMMIT" so loud that airports
complain about the noise.....



Etchells bows make really neat holes :-)

Yeah, that's a bummer. But it gives the crew something to do... BAIL, DAMMIT!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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The Captains Master wrote:


Yep, Etchells chutes are very big headed. My preferrred one the Ullman
"Fatboy runner" pretty much says it all.
We fly the pole high as possible but would definately drag it down a
bit if the luff started to look like yours...I take your point that
you were in front...beats me :-)

Well, I started trimming chutes this way after reading Buddy Melges book 'Sailing Smart.'
He talks about sail trim in a very unconventional but practical way, so far his advice
seems to work. Since then I've been eyeballing the spinnaker luff trying to get the luff
curl way up high, and carrying the pole higher than usual. I also carry the halyard looser
than other people, get the sail out in front.



My spinnaker techniques are not conventional, but most of the time we're among the
fastest boats off the wind. I've heard a lot of people say "your spinnaker is trimmed
wrong" as we pass them. Kind of funny........

Yep, I'm always being asked why we carry the pole so far back in heavy
air. "Makes the boat really unstable" but it sure is fast living on
the edge and that really is the essence.
If it works for you...so be it.

If you can keep the leach from getting too open and rolling the boat, yes.

Another thing is that people usually overdo windward heel. The usual reasoning is to get
the center of effort over the hull for 'more efficiency' but that produces lee helm and a
very uneasy ride. If the leg is DDW, I pull the CB all the way up and use just enough
windward heel to get a neutral helm.... maybe slight lee helm.

In Lasers, everybody is sailing on the windward rail and using the leach for the luff
nowadays. I have not perfected that trick, it looks strange.



Mate, lots of the time they just don't hear no matter what....and I
really do try hard to avoid punching that neat little triangle in
their side...Honest!

Hey, if you had rights and they shut the door... sometimes ya can't help it ;)





Etchells bows make really neat holes :-)

Yeah, that's a bummer. But it gives the crew something to do... BAIL, DAMMIT!

Yep that keeps em busy.
I've seen and completed races with quite big holes in the boat.
Twin double acting pumps are a distinct advantage :-)

Wow, you have twins for crew? Cool!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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S.Simon - a sailor who has a better computer aboard than most
home users.

You do? I have a new Pentium 4 and Mac G4 for video editing. My notebook is a
new Toshiba P3.
I have a feeling my Phone is better than your computer!

Bwahahahaha!

RB

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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| S.Simon - a sailor who has a better computer aboard than most
| home users.
|
| You do? I have a new Pentium 4 and Mac G4 for video editing. My notebook
is a
| new Toshiba P3.
| I have a feeling my Phone is better than your computer!

Pentium 4 what?
Toshiba P3 is a dinosaur.. what is it a 600
G4... the G5 rocks.

CM

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I resent that! My laptop has a Pentium IIIm with speed-step.

It runs at 733 mhz when loafing and at 1333 mhz when topped out.

It's faster than a desktop, 2.0 gigahertz, Pentium IV and uses about
half the electricity. If you don't believe it read some back issues of
computer magazines. So much ignorance - so little time.

S.Simon - the one and only.


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| S.Simon - a sailor who has a better computer aboard than most
| home users.
|
| You do? I have a new Pentium 4 and Mac G4 for video editing. My notebook
is a
| new Toshiba P3.
| I have a feeling my Phone is better than your computer!

Pentium 4 what?
Toshiba P3 is a dinosaur.. what is it a 600
G4... the G5 rocks.

CM

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Hey, silly. Those magazines have a cornucopia of software
they run to determine CPU speed. The Pentuim IIIm is
faster then a desktop Pentium IV running at the same
speed by a significant margin. A Pentium IIIm running
at 1333 MHZ beats a Pentium IV desktop chip every
time.

S.Simon - a sailor who knows CPUs like the back of his hand.


wrote in message ...
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 18:30:27 -0400, "Simple Simon" wrote:

If you don't believe it read some back issues of
computer magazines. So much ignorance - so little time.


Yes, that about sums up the expertise found in computer mags!

Geez, but you are a simp!

BB

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Pentium 4 what?
Toshiba P3 is a dinosaur.. what is it a 600
G4... the G5 rocks.

Toshiba P3 is new...it's a tablette notebook, dummy! The G5 is crashing Final
Cut Pro, so we can't use the bloody thing yet. We'll get one the moment it's up
and running.
Pentium 4 2.8 from HP (Pavilion) and still in the bloody box. I'll set it up
next week.

RB

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It runs at 733 mhz when loafing and at 1333 mhz when topped out.

Like I said...my phone is faster as is my old notebook retired to boat only
use!

RB

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message

| Toshiba P3 is new...it's a tablette notebook, dummy!

That's where the confusion is then... you said


The G5 is crashing Final
| Cut Pro, so we can't use the bloody thing yet. We'll get one the moment
it's up
| and running.

I quess that's as good an excuse as I've heard as to why I haven't seen an
video of you sailing upwind with the helm free.

| Pentium 4 2.8 from HP (Pavilion) and still in the bloody box. I'll set it
up
| next week.

I built my own P4 2.5 ... metal case.

CM

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You both lose. I'm running a PIV 3.06 gig. with 2x200 gig harddisks.
This is my "small" machine, WinTel that it is.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Pentium 4 what?
Toshiba P3 is a dinosaur.. what is it a 600
G4... the G5 rocks.

Toshiba P3 is new...it's a tablette notebook, dummy! The G5 is crashing
Final
Cut Pro, so we can't use the bloody thing yet. We'll get one the moment
it's up
and running.
Pentium 4 2.8 from HP (Pavilion) and still in the bloody box. I'll set it
up
next week.

RB

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I built my own P4 2.5 ... metal case.

Metal case? Does that make it better?

RB

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You both lose. I'm running a PIV 3.06 gig. with 2x200 gig harddisks.
This is my "small" machine, WinTel that it is.

I flip my machines every 24 months or so, buying mid-pack stuff in most cases.
Wasn't trying to win, just show Neal he's well behind.

RB

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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| I built my own P4 2.5 ... metal case.
|
| Metal case? Does that make it better?

Yes actually ... especially in my climate. The metal allows for better heat
dissipation. It acts like a heat sink and draws heat from the CPU allowing
it to run cooler. The case is always cool to the touch.. even on hot days.
It's the surface area I believe. The 4 fans help as well. I'm running a RAID
system and have it overclocked to a slight degree.

My friend has a water cooled system on his and runs at very high threshold
overclocked speeds. His performance tests are way up there.

CM

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My P4 2.5 Gig is well into the 3 gig range on performance tests...
overclocked with a 300Mhz frontside bus and a gig of ram.
I'm running XP Pro O/S

CM


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
| You both lose. I'm running a PIV 3.06 gig. with 2x200 gig harddisks.
| This is my "small" machine, WinTel that it is.
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| Pentium 4 what?
| Toshiba P3 is a dinosaur.. what is it a 600
| G4... the G5 rocks.
|
| Toshiba P3 is new...it's a tablette notebook, dummy! The G5 is crashing
| Final
| Cut Pro, so we can't use the bloody thing yet. We'll get one the moment
| it's up
| and running.
| Pentium 4 2.8 from HP (Pavilion) and still in the bloody box. I'll set
it
| up
| next week.
|
| RB
|
|

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Like you really need all that speed just to connect to a 33k dialup. Duh!

S.Simon


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
My P4 2.5 Gig is well into the 3 gig range on performance tests...
overclocked with a 300Mhz frontside bus and a gig of ram.
I'm running XP Pro O/S

CM


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
| You both lose. I'm running a PIV 3.06 gig. with 2x200 gig harddisks.
| This is my "small" machine, WinTel that it is.
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| Pentium 4 what?
| Toshiba P3 is a dinosaur.. what is it a 600
| G4... the G5 rocks.
|
| Toshiba P3 is new...it's a tablette notebook, dummy! The G5 is crashing
| Final
| Cut Pro, so we can't use the bloody thing yet. We'll get one the moment
| it's up
| and running.
| Pentium 4 2.8 from HP (Pavilion) and still in the bloody box. I'll set
it
| up
| next week.
|
| RB
|
|

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Try again... 3046 kbs.

I bet your cell phone has a circular dialer.....

CM

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| Like you really need all that speed just to connect to a 33k dialup. Duh!
|
| S.Simon
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
| My P4 2.5 Gig is well into the 3 gig range on performance tests...
| overclocked with a 300Mhz frontside bus and a gig of ram.
| I'm running XP Pro O/S
|
| CM
|
|
| "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
| ...
| | You both lose. I'm running a PIV 3.06 gig. with 2x200 gig harddisks.
| | This is my "small" machine, WinTel that it is.
| |
| | "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Pentium 4 what?
| | Toshiba P3 is a dinosaur.. what is it a 600
| | G4... the G5 rocks.
| |
| | Toshiba P3 is new...it's a tablette notebook, dummy! The G5 is
crashing
| | Final
| | Cut Pro, so we can't use the bloody thing yet. We'll get one the
moment
| | it's up
| | and running.
| | Pentium 4 2.8 from HP (Pavilion) and still in the bloody box. I'll
set
| it
| | up
| | next week.
| |
| | RB
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

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Darn, ok. Well, you win.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You both lose. I'm running a PIV 3.06 gig. with 2x200 gig harddisks.
This is my "small" machine, WinTel that it is.

I flip my machines every 24 months or so, buying mid-pack stuff in most
cases.
Wasn't trying to win, just show Neal he's well behind.

RB

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XP isn't bad, but it still crashes more than I'd like.
The servers are all Unix-based systems.

I had limited time when I picked out the motherboard,
and the Gigahertz was on sale. In retrospect, I should
have gotten the Intel.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
My P4 2.5 Gig is well into the 3 gig range on performance tests...
overclocked with a 300Mhz frontside bus and a gig of ram.
I'm running XP Pro O/S

CM


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
| You both lose. I'm running a PIV 3.06 gig. with 2x200 gig harddisks.
| This is my "small" machine, WinTel that it is.
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| Pentium 4 what?
| Toshiba P3 is a dinosaur.. what is it a 600
| G4... the G5 rocks.
|
| Toshiba P3 is new...it's a tablette notebook, dummy! The G5 is
crashing
| Final
| Cut Pro, so we can't use the bloody thing yet. We'll get one the
moment
| it's up
| and running.
| Pentium 4 2.8 from HP (Pavilion) and still in the bloody box. I'll set
it
| up
| next week.
|
| RB
|
|

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You don't??

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Like you really need all that speed just to connect to a 33k dialup. Duh!

S.Simon


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
My P4 2.5 Gig is well into the 3 gig range on performance tests...
overclocked with a 300Mhz frontside bus and a gig of ram.
I'm running XP Pro O/S

CM


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
| You both lose. I'm running a PIV 3.06 gig. with 2x200 gig harddisks.
| This is my "small" machine, WinTel that it is.
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| Pentium 4 what?
| Toshiba P3 is a dinosaur.. what is it a 600
| G4... the G5 rocks.
|
| Toshiba P3 is new...it's a tablette notebook, dummy! The G5 is
crashing
| Final
| Cut Pro, so we can't use the bloody thing yet. We'll get one the
moment
| it's up
| and running.
| Pentium 4 2.8 from HP (Pavilion) and still in the bloody box. I'll
set
it
| up
| next week.
|
| RB
|
|

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
| XP isn't bad, but it still crashes more than I'd like.
| The servers are all Unix-based systems.

What are you talkin' about.... I've yet to crash any of my XP Pro O/Ss.
None, Nada, Zip.... The only time I've seen it crash was on my buddy's way
overclocked system... even then it shut down and restarted on it's own with
no prompt. It's bar none the easiest and most stable platform in the
Microsoft lineup. You guys really need to get out of the stoneage.

If there was another O/S out there that had the ability to run as many
commercially available programs and applications... I'd buy and try. So far
these alternate O/S developers have been trying attacking this problem ass
backwards. Like buying a wagon and hoping a horse will back into the
harness.

Don't hate Bill because he's rich and has you by the short and curlies...

CM

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I'm talking about doing more on it than connecting to the
internet. I'm pretty hard on systems. Never seen a system
I couldn't crash.

But, you're right. It's the most stable so far as far as M****
goes.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
| XP isn't bad, but it still crashes more than I'd like.
| The servers are all Unix-based systems.

What are you talkin' about.... I've yet to crash any of my XP Pro O/Ss.
None, Nada, Zip.... The only time I've seen it crash was on my buddy's
way
overclocked system... even then it shut down and restarted on it's own
with
no prompt. It's bar none the easiest and most stable platform in the
Microsoft lineup. You guys really need to get out of the stoneage.

If there was another O/S out there that had the ability to run as many
commercially available programs and applications... I'd buy and try. So
far
these alternate O/S developers have been trying attacking this problem ass
backwards. Like buying a wagon and hoping a horse will back into the
harness.

Don't hate Bill because he's rich and has you by the short and curlies...

CM