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Simple Simon September 1st 03 06:58 PM

What happens when you elect a Democrat president.
 
President Bill Clinton had the opportunity to stop, catch, or kill bin Laden
more than twelve times during his presidency, a new book set for release
this week claims.

And on at least two occasions through Drones and Global Positioning
Systems the Clinton Administration knew exactly where bin Laden was
-- and refused to take him out well after knowing he was as a national
security threat.

MORE

Former WALL STREET JOURNAL editorial writer Richard Miniter
and REGNERY Publishing are set for lift-off on LOSING BIN LADEN
[ranked #52,682 on Amazon's hit parade Sunday evening].

A Novak column on the book is set for Monday, and the WASHINGTON
TIMES will serialize later in the week, according to sources, but only the
DRUDGE REPORT can present an exclusive first look:

LOSING alleges and details:

* Osama bin Laden's rise to power and the September 11 attacks were d
ue to the inactions and failures of former President Bill Clinton and key
members of his administration who followed a law enforcement approach
to fighting global terrorism as opposed to engaging a war on terrorism on
national security grounds.

* How each failure by Clinton to retaliate made bin Laden look invincible
in the Arab world, allowing bin Laden to attract new recruits and money.

* The 1993 World Trade Center attack --- documents how Clinton refused
to believe it was a terrorist attack and viewed the bombing as an FBI
investigation therefore blocking the CIA from entering the investigation
on matters of national security.

* Drawn from secret Sudanese intelligence files, the full story of bin Laden's
role in shooting down America's Black Hawk helicopters in Mogadishu, Somalia.
This is the story that "Black Hawk Down" missed.

* President Clinton and a Democratic Senator Dennis DeConcini prevented
the CIA from hiring Arabic translators-while bin Laden and Arabic-speaking
terrorists killed Americans across the Near East.

* The story of Saudi Arabia's attempt to assassinate bin Laden in 1994.

* One of the FBI's most-trusted informants, Ali Mohammed, an Egyptian soldier,
was given a military security clearance but was actually a double agent working
for bin Laden.

* How the Administration engaged a policy to get Bin Laden removed from
the Sudan back to Pakistan and Afghanistan only to get him closer to training
camps and his recruits making him even more dangerous and embolden future
terrorist acts.

* How Assistant Secretary of State for East Africa Affairs Susan Rice
blocked opportunities to work with the Sudanese government looking to
turn over bin Laden to the United States.

* Documents numerous Sudanese attempts to work with the United States
to capture bin Laden only to be rejected by the US State Department.

* How the Monica Lewinsky and fundraising scandals, as well as a consuming
desire to be re-elected, prevented Clinton from waging a war on terror and
bin Laden and prevent 9/11.

* For more than two years Miniter interviewed soldiers, diplomats and
intelligence operatives in Middle East, Africa, and Europe but found his
best sources were, to his surprise, top level Clinton administration officials
including former National Security Advisor Tony Lake, former National
Security Advisor Sandy Berger, former Secretary of State Madeleine
Albright, Clinton's counterterrorism coordinator Richard Clarke, and
former Director of Central Intelligence James Woolsey.



Simple Simon September 1st 03 10:44 PM

What happens when you elect a Democrat president.
 


wrote in message ...
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:58:47 -0400, "Simple Simon" wrote:

President Bill Clinton had the opportunity to stop, catch, or kill bin Laden
more than twelve times during his presidency, a new book set for release
this week claims.


Bush has done any better? How many American soldiers were killed under the
Clinton administration trying to find Bin Laden? How many American soldiers have
been killed under the Bush administration, with no better results than Clinton?


President George W. Bush certainly HAS done better. Nobody
could have done worse than Clinton, by the way. Clinton and the
liberal Democrats did all they could to make this country a victim
of terrorism. They are still doing it as a matter of fact.

The point is if it wasn't for the fact that Clinton was derelict in his
duty and spent more time womanizing and playing the joker
bin Laden wouldn't have been the problem he turned out to be.

At least President Bush is fighting a war against terrorism. There
are going to be casualties. These casualties are the direct result of
Clinton's criminal lack of action because he wanted to remain
popular with all the anti-war assholes like yourself. He put his
popularity ahead of the security of the county. Most people realize
this now that it's too late to do anything about it. The only people
living in some sort of dream world are asshole liberals like yourself
who are too frightened or too self-absorbed to bother fighting for
the liberties you enjoy thanks to proper and moral men like
George W. Bush, Tony Blair and the valiant men and women
of the armed forces of these great countries. Clinton would
have us all huddling in buildings waiting for the next terrorist
attach right here on our own soil.

S.Simon - a Captain who's serious about sailing



Horvath September 2nd 03 01:14 AM

What happens when you elect a Democrat president.
 
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:56:11 GMT, wrote
this crap:

On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:58:47 -0400, "Simple Simon" wrote:

President Bill Clinton had the opportunity to stop, catch, or kill bin Laden
more than twelve times during his presidency, a new book set for release
this week claims.


Bush has done any better? How many American soldiers were killed under the
Clinton administration trying to find Bin Laden? How many American soldiers have
been killed under the Bush administration, with no better results than Clinton?


Isn't it about the same? Oh wait! Bin Laden wasn't in Waco Texas, or
Mogadishu.





Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

The Carrolls September 3rd 03 02:52 AM

What happens when you elect a Democrat president.
 

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
President Bill Clinton had the opportunity to stop, catch, or kill bin

Laden
more than twelve times during his presidency, a new book set for release
this week claims.


And Jr. Bush has all but given up on finding him intending instead to wage
his vendetta at our expense on Saddam Hussein, manufacturing evidence,
missinterpretering evidence to his favor and in general being unobjective.
When was the last time you heard President Bush speak of Bin Laden?

And on at least two occasions through Drones and Global Positioning
Systems the Clinton Administration knew exactly where bin Laden was
-- and refused to take him out well after knowing he was as a national
security threat.


They did send cruise missles on one occasion, and took great heat for it.

MORE

Former WALL STREET JOURNAL editorial writer Richard Miniter
and REGNERY Publishing are set for lift-off on LOSING BIN LADEN
[ranked #52,682 on Amazon's hit parade Sunday evening].

A Novak column on the book is set for Monday, and the WASHINGTON
TIMES will serialize later in the week, according to sources, but only the
DRUDGE REPORT can present an exclusive first look:

LOSING alleges and details:

* Osama bin Laden's rise to power and the September 11 attacks were d
ue to the inactions and failures of former President Bill Clinton and key
members of his administration who followed a law enforcement approach
to fighting global terrorism as opposed to engaging a war on terrorism on
national security grounds.

* How each failure by Clinton to retaliate made bin Laden look invincible
in the Arab world, allowing bin Laden to attract new recruits and money.

* The 1993 World Trade Center attack --- documents how Clinton refused
to believe it was a terrorist attack and viewed the bombing as an FBI
investigation therefore blocking the CIA from entering the investigation
on matters of national security.


If we choose to blame Clinton for the 9-11 attack, we must blame Bush senior
for the 1993 attacks.

* Drawn from secret Sudanese intelligence files, the full story of bin

Laden's
role in shooting down America's Black Hawk helicopters in Mogadishu,

Somalia.
This is the story that "Black Hawk Down" missed


Again we wouldn't even have been in that role in Somolia but for Bush
Senior..

* President Clinton and a Democratic Senator Dennis DeConcini prevented
the CIA from hiring Arabic translators-while bin Laden and Arabic-speaking
terrorists killed Americans across the Near East.


I find that hard to believe, perhaps we had enough Farizi speaking
operatives and didn't need more.

* The story of Saudi Arabia's attempt to assassinate bin Laden in 1994.

* One of the FBI's most-trusted informants, Ali Mohammed, an Egyptian

soldier,
was given a military security clearance but was actually a double agent

working
for bin Laden.


Who hired him? Bush, Reagan or Clinton?

* How the Administration engaged a policy to get Bin Laden removed from
the Sudan back to Pakistan and Afghanistan only to get him closer to

training
camps and his recruits making him even more dangerous and embolden future
terrorist acts.


These were training camps we had paid for with when Bin Laden was our good
buddy under Reagan.

* How Assistant Secretary of State for East Africa Affairs Susan Rice
blocked opportunities to work with the Sudanese government looking to
turn over bin Laden to the United States.


The Sudenese government has never been friendly to the US. Why should we
have believed them?

* Documents numerous Sudanese attempts to work with the United States
to capture bin Laden only to be rejected by the US State Department.


IBID

* How the Monica Lewinsky and fundraising scandals, as well as a consuming
desire to be re-elected, prevented Clinton from waging a war on terror and
bin Laden and prevent 9/11

..
He kept our Soldiers out of harms way knowing he would take heat for the
timely launching of cruse missiles

* For more than two years Miniter interviewed soldiers, diplomats and
intelligence operatives in Middle East, Africa, and Europe but found his
best sources were, to his surprise, top level Clinton administration

officials
including former National Security Advisor Tony Lake, former National
Security Advisor Sandy Berger, former Secretary of State Madeleine
Albright, Clinton's counterterrorism coordinator Richard Clarke, and
former Director of Central Intelligence James Woolsey.


They were doing their job by being on top of the situations, able to
assimilate information from several aources and give informed answere.





The Carrolls September 3rd 03 02:57 AM

What happens when you elect a Democrat president.
 
On another note, what we got ourt of our last democratic president was 8
years of peace and prosperity and a very republican(at least that was the
party line up to this president)balanced budget. Out of our last
republician, 2 wars, a stockmarket diving like a club fighter and depending
who you believe 3 to 8 thousand dollars of debt for every man woman and
child in this country.



Horvath September 3rd 03 10:55 AM

What happens when you elect a Democrat president.
 
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 01:57:41 GMT, "The Carrolls"
wrote this crap:

On another note, what we got ourt of our last democratic president was 8
years of peace and prosperity and a very republican(at least that was the
party line up to this president)balanced budget. Out of our last
republician, 2 wars, a stockmarket diving like a club fighter and depending
who you believe 3 to 8 thousand dollars of debt for every man woman and
child in this country.


You've been watching too much Cartoon Network. Didn't you ever hear
of Kosovo, Waco Texas, or Mogadishu? Didn't you hear how Klinton's
buddies, like Kenny Lay, inflated the stock market for their personal
fortune. Insider trading was so common that Hillary Clinton did it
herself. And did somebody mention the national debt? Under Klinton,
it reached the highest levels in history.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Bobsprit September 3rd 03 11:37 AM

What happens when you elect a Democrat president.
 
Why lie about this stuff, Horvath. Clinton paid down the debt better than any
president.

http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/.../clinton.debt/

Why do think Bush claimed there was a surplus to hand out in tax returns?

RB

Jonathan Ganz September 3rd 03 05:19 PM

What happens when you elect a Democrat president.
 
Horrry isn't lying. He's just stupid.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Why lie about this stuff, Horvath. Clinton paid down the debt better than

any
president.

http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/.../clinton.debt/

Why do think Bush claimed there was a surplus to hand out in tax returns?

RB




The Carrolls September 3rd 03 09:11 PM

What happens when you elect a Democrat president.
 
First of all Kenny Lay is one of "W's" best friends according to George
himself, at least up to the bankrupcy. Second Kosovo and Mogadishu were UN
overseen peacekeeping operations, not an all out USA against whom-ever war.
Third, insider trading, Hillary was never president, and I won't blame Bill
Clinton for her actions any more than I will George senior for any of
Barbras actions. Fourth, you're so wrong about Clintons national debt, The
debt was a surplus of half a trillon dollars when "W" took office.I wont
even go into things like unemployment rates or the Israel, Palestine.
"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 01:57:41 GMT, "The Carrolls"
wrote this crap:

On another note, what we got ourt of our last democratic president was 8
years of peace and prosperity and a very republican(at least that was the
party line up to this president)balanced budget. Out of our last
republician, 2 wars, a stockmarket diving like a club fighter and

depending
who you believe 3 to 8 thousand dollars of debt for every man woman and
child in this country.


You've been watching too much Cartoon Network. Didn't you ever hear
of Kosovo, Waco Texas, or Mogadishu? Didn't you hear how Klinton's
buddies, like Kenny Lay, inflated the stock market for their personal
fortune. Insider trading was so common that Hillary Clinton did it
herself. And did somebody mention the national debt? Under Klinton,
it reached the highest levels in history.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!




Bobsprit September 3rd 03 09:54 PM

What happens when you elect a Democrat president.
 
Fourth, you're so wrong about Clintons national debt, The
debt was a surplus of half a trillon dollars when "W" took office.

Horvath, like Neal, just says ANYTHING in their partisan hatred and
frustration. While I'm a democrat, I don't always vote that way.
But Bush was a turkey from day one. And more than half the country knew it.

RB


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