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Scott Vernon September 1st 03 05:47 PM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 
I will probably sail down to Rock Hall tomorrow. The entrance to the
anchorage is 'a bit tricky' if not downright 'challenging'. The channel is a
mere 120' wide (only enough room for one boat at a time), and marked with
buoys. Also there is a 'confusing tide' (sometimes it's in, sometimes it's
out). I don't have the luxury of radar, plotting GPS, or a Rand McNally
'cruising guide'. All I have is a chart.
My question is; how many times should I 'pass back & forth ' studying the
challenging entrance? Should I just stay at the slip?

Scotty



Bobsprit September 1st 03 05:53 PM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 
Should I just stay at the slip?

Yup. Why change now?

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Bobsprit September 1st 03 05:57 PM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 
I don't have the luxury of radar, plotting GPS, or a Rand McNally
'cruising guide'.

You don't have a GPS?

RB

Scott Vernon September 1st 03 06:03 PM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 

"Bobsprit" wrote ...
Should I just stay at the slip?

Yup. That's what I do.


RwannaB




Scott Vernon September 1st 03 06:07 PM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 
still can't read, I see.


"Bobchicken" bobchicken@ NO CAN READ .com cackled...
I don't have the luxury of radar, plotting GPS, or a Rand McNally
'cruising guide'.

You don't have a GPS?

RB




Scott Vernon September 1st 03 06:17 PM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 
Gee! I hope I don't hit any rocks!


SV



Capt. Mooron September 1st 03 06:37 PM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 
I can't recommend the Bobsprit method of navigation by "Feel'n'Fear" .....
forgetting the batteries for your only GPS, having no idea of seafloor
topography, no clue as to tide and defying the warning on his cruising guide
to not use it for navigation is a deadly combo when you include tossing
common sense to the wind!

I can understand your angst after reading about all the errors made on
Alien's Epic voyage. He was fortunate that the Chaos Theory was in effect
and luckily the numerous errors cancelled each other out.

My recommendation would be to relax and enjoy the sail. Have a couple of
glasses of Rum and Coke... then you'll realize that it's far easier to
navigate properly than rely on an out of date poorly written fright mag like
the cruising guide Bob used... never mind the requirement to invent people
who you can state agreed with the fiasco presented as a "Trip Report"

CM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
| I will probably sail down to Rock Hall tomorrow. The entrance to the
| anchorage is 'a bit tricky' if not downright 'challenging'. The channel is
a
| mere 120' wide (only enough room for one boat at a time), and marked with
| buoys. Also there is a 'confusing tide' (sometimes it's in, sometimes it's
| out). I don't have the luxury of radar, plotting GPS, or a Rand McNally
| 'cruising guide'. All I have is a chart.
| My question is; how many times should I 'pass back & forth ' studying the
| challenging entrance? Should I just stay at the slip?
|
| Scotty
|
|



Horvath September 1st 03 09:21 PM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:47:29 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:

I will probably sail down to Rock Hall tomorrow. The entrance to the
anchorage is 'a bit tricky' if not downright 'challenging'. The channel is a
mere 120' wide (only enough room for one boat at a time), and marked with
buoys. Also there is a 'confusing tide' (sometimes it's in, sometimes it's
out). I don't have the luxury of radar, plotting GPS, or a Rand McNally
'cruising guide'. All I have is a chart.
My question is; how many times should I 'pass back & forth ' studying the
challenging entrance? Should I just stay at the slip?


Just don't run out of beer.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Capt. Mooron September 1st 03 09:42 PM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 

"Horvath" wrote in message

| Just don't run out of beer.

Oh cripes Horvath... you've just invoked the wrath of Bobsprit!

Retract that statement before Bob starts a sermon on the evils of alcohol
under sail!!

CM



Scott Vernon September 2nd 03 12:57 AM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 
I will take your recommendation and let you know how it worked upon my
return( no pics). Captain Morgan was emptied last trip, Bacardi and Pepsi
will have to do.

Scotty


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
I can't recommend the Bobsprit method of navigation by "Feel'n'Fear" .....
forgetting the batteries for your only GPS, having no idea of seafloor
topography, no clue as to tide and defying the warning on his cruising

guide
to not use it for navigation is a deadly combo when you include tossing
common sense to the wind!

I can understand your angst after reading about all the errors made on
Alien's Epic voyage. He was fortunate that the Chaos Theory was in effect
and luckily the numerous errors cancelled each other out.

My recommendation would be to relax and enjoy the sail. Have a couple of
glasses of Rum and Coke... then you'll realize that it's far easier to
navigate properly than rely on an out of date poorly written fright mag

like
the cruising guide Bob used... never mind the requirement to invent people
who you can state agreed with the fiasco presented as a "Trip Report"

CM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
| I will probably sail down to Rock Hall tomorrow. The entrance to the
| anchorage is 'a bit tricky' if not downright 'challenging'. The channel

is
a
| mere 120' wide (only enough room for one boat at a time), and marked

with
| buoys. Also there is a 'confusing tide' (sometimes it's in, sometimes

it's
| out). I don't have the luxury of radar, plotting GPS, or a Rand McNally
| 'cruising guide'. All I have is a chart.
| My question is; how many times should I 'pass back & forth ' studying

the
| challenging entrance? Should I just stay at the slip?
|
| Scotty
|
|





Scott Vernon September 2nd 03 12:59 AM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 
Thank you for your concern, Horvy 'ol buddy, but I don't drink beer.
However, there is always a bottle of rum on board 'Lisa Marie'.

Scotty

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:47:29 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:

I will probably sail down to Rock Hall tomorrow. The entrance to the
anchorage is 'a bit tricky' if not downright 'challenging'. The channel

is a
mere 120' wide (only enough room for one boat at a time), and marked with
buoys. Also there is a 'confusing tide' (sometimes it's in, sometimes

it's
out). I don't have the luxury of radar, plotting GPS, or a Rand McNally
'cruising guide'. All I have is a chart.
My question is; how many times should I 'pass back & forth ' studying

the
challenging entrance? Should I just stay at the slip?


Just don't run out of beer.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!




Horvath September 2nd 03 01:08 AM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 17:42:58 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote this crap:


"Horvath" wrote in message

| Just don't run out of beer.

Oh cripes Horvath... you've just invoked the wrath of Bobsprit!

Retract that statement before Bob starts a sermon on the evils of alcohol
under sail!!

CM



I retract nothing! No vessel should ever be out of beer.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Simple Simon September 2nd 03 01:15 AM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 
Beer is the lubricant of a real sailor. If you don't drink
grog you're no sailor.


"Horvath" wrote in message ...
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 17:42:58 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote this crap:


"Horvath" wrote in message

| Just don't run out of beer.

Oh cripes Horvath... you've just invoked the wrath of Bobsprit!

Retract that statement before Bob starts a sermon on the evils of alcohol
under sail!!

CM



I retract nothing! No vessel should ever be out of beer.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!




Scott Vernon September 2nd 03 01:20 AM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 
beer is NOT grog!!!!!!!


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Beer is the lubricant of a real sailor. If you don't drink
grog you're no sailor.


"Horvath" wrote in message

...
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 17:42:58 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote this crap:


"Horvath" wrote in message

| Just don't run out of beer.

Oh cripes Horvath... you've just invoked the wrath of Bobsprit!

Retract that statement before Bob starts a sermon on the evils of

alcohol
under sail!!

CM



I retract nothing! No vessel should ever be out of beer.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!






Simple Simon September 2nd 03 01:26 AM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ...
beer is NOT grog!!!!!!!


The Hell it ain't! Look up the definition of grog and you'll
see something like 'alcohol and water'. What is beer but
alcohol and water with a few hops thrown in for flavor?

S.Simon - a Captain who knows his grog!



Scott Vernon September 2nd 03 01:56 AM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 
Found this one first;

Grog (Groggy):

Comes from the nickname the British sailors had for their West Indies
Commander, Admiral Vernon, who wore a cloak made of a coarse cloth called
grogham. "Old Grog," as they called him, made his men dilute their daily
pint with water, in hopes of reducing the rum's effects; the men simply
drank the mixture faster, and became groggy.



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

...
beer is NOT grog!!!!!!!


The Hell it ain't! Look up the definition of grog and you'll
see something like 'alcohol and water'. What is beer but
alcohol and water with a few hops thrown in for flavor?

S.Simon - a Captain who knows his grog!





Scott Vernon September 2nd 03 02:03 AM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 
And then this one, notice the reference to dear old Grt. grt. grt. granddad;

Grog
1) Grog is an expression for watered rum. In 1740, Admiral Vernon, RN
(whose nickname was "Old Grog") ordered that rum rations be watered.

2) Grog originally referred to a mixture of rum cut with water. The
admiral in question, Edward Vernon (1684-1757), had given an order in 1740
that the rum normally served to seamen be watered down -- previously, they
had gotten straight rum as part of their standard ration. Vernon's nickname
was Old Grog, after his custom of wearing a grogram cloak, and Grog was
transferred from the admiral's nickname to the name of the drink he required
for his men. The word is first found in the 1750s



--
Scott Vernon
Plowville PA __/)__/)__


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

...
beer is NOT grog!!!!!!!


The Hell it ain't! Look up the definition of grog and you'll
see something like 'alcohol and water'. What is beer but
alcohol and water with a few hops thrown in for flavor?

S.Simon - a Captain who knows his grog!





Simple Simon September 2nd 03 02:07 AM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 


Nowadays grog means beer too.

http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Canal/9509/ scroll down

http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Canal/9509/ look under BYOG

S.Simon - a Captain with a cosmopolitian outlook


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ...
And then this one, notice the reference to dear old Grt. grt. grt. granddad;

Grog
1) Grog is an expression for watered rum. In 1740, Admiral Vernon, RN
(whose nickname was "Old Grog") ordered that rum rations be watered.

2) Grog originally referred to a mixture of rum cut with water. The
admiral in question, Edward Vernon (1684-1757), had given an order in 1740
that the rum normally served to seamen be watered down -- previously, they
had gotten straight rum as part of their standard ration. Vernon's nickname
was Old Grog, after his custom of wearing a grogram cloak, and Grog was
transferred from the admiral's nickname to the name of the drink he required
for his men. The word is first found in the 1750s



--
Scott Vernon
Plowville PA __/)__/)__


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

...
beer is NOT grog!!!!!!!


The Hell it ain't! Look up the definition of grog and you'll
see something like 'alcohol and water'. What is beer but
alcohol and water with a few hops thrown in for flavor?

S.Simon - a Captain who knows his grog!







Scott Vernon September 2nd 03 02:22 AM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 
That's a damn Australian site! Who cares what those simple minded
,backwoods, sheep shagging, up-side-downers call it.

Grog is watered down rum.

Scotty


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...


Nowadays grog means beer too.

http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Canal/9509/ scroll down

http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Canal/9509/ look under BYOG

S.Simon - a Captain with a cosmopolitian outlook


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

...
And then this one, notice the reference to dear old Grt. grt. grt.

granddad;

Grog
1) Grog is an expression for watered rum. In 1740, Admiral Vernon,

RN
(whose nickname was "Old Grog") ordered that rum rations be watered.

2) Grog originally referred to a mixture of rum cut with water. The
admiral in question, Edward Vernon (1684-1757), had given an order in

1740
that the rum normally served to seamen be watered down -- previously,

they
had gotten straight rum as part of their standard ration. Vernon's

nickname
was Old Grog, after his custom of wearing a grogram cloak, and Grog was
transferred from the admiral's nickname to the name of the drink he

required
for his men. The word is first found in the 1750s



--
Scott Vernon
Plowville PA __/)__/)__


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

...
beer is NOT grog!!!!!!!


The Hell it ain't! Look up the definition of grog and you'll
see something like 'alcohol and water'. What is beer but
alcohol and water with a few hops thrown in for flavor?

S.Simon - a Captain who knows his grog!









Jonathan Ganz September 2nd 03 04:50 AM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 
And all vessels are without you!

On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 00:08:51 +0000, Horvath wrote:

On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 17:42:58 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote this crap:


"Horvath" wrote in message

| Just don't run out of beer.

Oh cripes Horvath... you've just invoked the wrath of Bobsprit!

Retract that statement before Bob starts a sermon on the evils of alcohol
under sail!!

CM



I retract nothing! No vessel should ever be out of beer.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!



Horvath September 2nd 03 12:25 PM

Capt. Mooron, please advise...
 
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:59:30 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:

Thank you for your concern, Horvy 'ol buddy, but I don't drink beer.
However, there is always a bottle of rum on board 'Lisa Marie'.

Snotty


Wuss!




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!


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