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Wally August 27th 03 11:49 AM

What should you enter in your log?
 
"The Captains Master" wrote in message

Seeing as how there has been so much discussion about logs, and after
reading Donals poor example,I thought it might be a good idea to
discuss what information should be entered in this official and in
some cases legally bound document.

I'll start!

A crew list.


Intended destination (or route if going out for a short sail).


--
Wally
I demand rigidly-defined areas of uncertainty!
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk




katysails August 27th 03 11:52 AM

What should you enter in your log?
 
Lat and long of departure point

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Wally August 27th 03 11:56 AM

What should you enter in your log?
 
"katysails" wrote in message news:bii2d5

Lat and long of departure point


Departure time, current weather and tide.


--
Wally
I demand rigidly-defined areas of uncertainty!
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk




katysails August 27th 03 12:06 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
weather conditions at the time of departure

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


James August 27th 03 12:15 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 

"The Captains Master" wrote in message
...

Seeing as how there has been so much discussion about logs, and after
reading Donals poor example,I thought it might be a good idea to
discuss what information should be entered in this official and in
some cases legally bound document.

I'll start!

A crew list.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




The truth! Logs need to be acuurate.. warts and all.



Jonathan Ganz August 27th 03 03:50 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
Quantity and quality of liquor on board.

"The Captains Master" wrote in message
...

Seeing as how there has been so much discussion about logs, and after
reading Donals poor example,I thought it might be a good idea to
discuss what information should be entered in this official and in
some cases legally bound document.

I'll start!

A crew list.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





Jonathan Ganz August 27th 03 03:51 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
Boat status.. fuel level, problems noted/fixed

"The Captains Master" wrote in message
...

Seeing as how there has been so much discussion about logs, and after
reading Donals poor example,I thought it might be a good idea to
discuss what information should be entered in this official and in
some cases legally bound document.

I'll start!

A crew list.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





Wally August 27th 03 03:52 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
"The Captains Master" wrote in message

A crew list.


GPS battery check list.


--
Wally
I demand rigidly-defined areas of uncertainty!
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk




Capt. Mooron August 27th 03 04:24 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
What you enter in your log..... is far different than what you enter in
your pre-departure checklist... which is what you bozos have reduced this
to.

Log:
Departure Time
Tide
Weather [Temp/Barometer/ Visual]
Course Mag
Course true
Variation
Chart Number
Engine Hours
[Deviation tables on inside cover]
Course changes + times
Fixes [methods utilized including references]
Drift and Set
Log data - [average speed]
Notes regarding uncharted obstructions, general conditions, watch changes,
helm changes, sail set and trim,etc.

Hope that clears things up for everyone!

CM


"The Captains Master" wrote in message
...
|
| Seeing as how there has been so much discussion about logs, and after
| reading Donals poor example,I thought it might be a good idea to
| discuss what information should be entered in this official and in
| some cases legally bound document.
|
| I'll start!
|
| A crew list.
|
|
| Oz1...of the 3 twins.
| I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.
|
|



Bobsprit August 27th 03 04:26 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 

GPS battery check list.

Ahh, you beat me to it! I also forgot the nice loaf of bread Suzanne baked.

RB

Bobsprit August 27th 03 04:26 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
which is what you bozos have reduced this

Cluck the Duck and shoes for industry!


RB

otnmbrd August 27th 03 04:33 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
There are "Logs" and then there are "Logs". If you want to avoid
creating a single monster, you may want to create some separate logs to
cover certain areas .... crew list, equipment checks and maintenance
records, route plans with dates, etc., and keep your voyage log for nav
points, weather, course changes, watch changes, courses and speeds,
compass corrections, distances traveled.

otn

The Captains Master wrote:

Seeing as how there has been so much discussion about logs, and after
reading Donals poor example,I thought it might be a good idea to
discuss what information should be entered in this official and in
some cases legally bound document.

I'll start!

A crew list.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Bobsprit August 27th 03 05:33 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
Professional Captains often keep two logs. One for the
authorities and one for themselves. The one for the authorities
is keep short, concise and often does not reflect real life.

Who gives a damn? You sail a pathetic Coronado 27 that never goes anywhere!

Bwahahahaha!

Neal's Log: 1989-2003-Hung on the mooring.

RB

Capt. Mooron August 27th 03 05:44 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
I've also noticed he avoids any topic regarding navigation like the plague.
Maybe he uses the Line of Sight / By Golly-By Gosh method ??

CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| Professional Captains often keep two logs. One for the
| authorities and one for themselves. The one for the authorities
| is keep short, concise and often does not reflect real life.
|
| Who gives a damn? You sail a pathetic Coronado 27 that never goes
anywhere!
|
| Bwahahahaha!
|
| Neal's Log: 1989-2003-Hung on the mooring.
|
| RB



Marc August 27th 03 07:50 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
No, its the "' I've been sailing here for years and there ain't no
rocks" method.
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:44:14 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote:

I've also noticed he avoids any topic regarding navigation like the plague.
Maybe he uses the Line of Sight / By Golly-By Gosh method ??

CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| Professional Captains often keep two logs. One for the
| authorities and one for themselves. The one for the authorities
| is keep short, concise and often does not reflect real life.
|
| Who gives a damn? You sail a pathetic Coronado 27 that never goes
anywhere!
|
| Bwahahahaha!
|
| Neal's Log: 1989-2003-Hung on the mooring.
|
| RB



The_navigator© August 27th 03 11:45 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
Did you starve as well?

Cheers MC

Bobsprit wrote:

GPS battery check list.

Ahh, you beat me to it! I also forgot the nice loaf of bread Suzanne baked.

RB



The_navigator© August 27th 03 11:46 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
I agree.

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Professional Captains often keep two logs. One for the
authorities and one for themselves. The one for the authorities
is keep short, concise and often does not reflect real life.

For example, Shen44 or otnmbrd will, in restricted visibility,
enter into the log something like, "Slowed down to a safe speed
as required by the Rules due to thick fog," while in fact they
slowed down for about five minutes to pump the oil from
the bilges and to toss illegal garbage overboard and then
went back to full cruising speed.

Since a ships log is considered a legal document they NEVER
put any incriminating information in the 'official' log. Truck
drivers do this all the time, as well. DOT, like the Coast Guard,
can and will use a log against you.

S.Simon
(Master Mariner)


"otnmbrd" wrote in message ink.net...

There are "Logs" and then there are "Logs". If you want to avoid
creating a single monster, you may want to create some separate logs to
cover certain areas .... crew list, equipment checks and maintenance
records, route plans with dates, etc., and keep your voyage log for nav
points, weather, course changes, watch changes, courses and speeds,
compass corrections, distances traveled.

otn

The Captains Master wrote:


Seeing as how there has been so much discussion about logs, and after
reading Donals poor example,I thought it might be a good idea to
discuss what information should be entered in this official and in
some cases legally bound document.

I'll start!

A crew list.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.







The_navigator© August 27th 03 11:47 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
Not really he just heads due east and provided he makes say 3 knots will
hit land in 24-36 hours

Cheers MC

Capt. Mooron wrote:

I've also noticed he avoids any topic regarding navigation like the plague.
Maybe he uses the Line of Sight / By Golly-By Gosh method ??

CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| Professional Captains often keep two logs. One for the
| authorities and one for themselves. The one for the authorities
| is keep short, concise and often does not reflect real life.
|
| Who gives a damn? You sail a pathetic Coronado 27 that never goes
anywhere!
|
| Bwahahahaha!
|
| Neal's Log: 1989-2003-Hung on the mooring.
|
| RB




Capt. Mooron August 28th 03 12:31 AM

What should you enter in your log?
 

"The Captains Master" wrote in message
|
| Oh yeah, clear as my mothers mudcake.
| Your "predeparture checklist" is the important part. It details
| water,fuel,persons onboard etc etc etc.
| You are required to list full details of all crew in the "predeparture
| checklist" which will be examined by customs or port authority when
| entering their country. You are also required to hold all passports
| for presentation when asked.
|
| The 'log" that you are keeping is a navigation log only.

And pray tell me why.... in your rabid response did you think I wrote:
"| What you enter in your log..... is far different than what you enter
in
| your pre-departure checklist... "

I thinking it was the drugs that are affecting your mental state... ???

CM




katysails August 28th 03 12:48 AM

What should you enter in your log?
 
Oh, for the loveaPete, just go to West Marine and buy a preprinted log =
and fill in the blanks....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Capt. Mooron August 28th 03 01:22 AM

What should you enter in your log?
 

"The Captains Master" wrote in message

| Ummm Mooron, the "predeparture checklist" as you call it detailing
| your crew, water and fuel is your log!

Wow Oz.... my pre-Departure Checklist involves crew to sign on the Log, and
then a fixed sheet that is checked off You know.. the basics valves, oil,
water, fuel, filed sail plan, etc.

|
| The "checklist" is something you use to go shopping.

I think that's a Shopping List....

|
| Must be your withdrawal....got the DT's yet?

Nah... I got some Shake from a friend... it's mild but it does have a nice
mellow high.
I often stop drinking for months... like when I'm working I don't drink or
smoke drugs. It's never seemed to be a problem. I don't miss it at all when
it's not around. Is it a problem for you Oz???

CM





otnmbrd August 28th 03 07:36 AM

What should you enter in your log?
 
Seriously doubt you know the difference between a "Rough Log", "Smooth
Log", and "Official Log".

otn

Simple Simon wrote:
Professional Captains often keep two logs. One for the
authorities and one for themselves. The one for the authorities
is keep short, concise and often does not reflect real life.

For example, Shen44 or otnmbrd will, in restricted visibility,
enter into the log something like, "Slowed down to a safe speed
as required by the Rules due to thick fog," while in fact they
slowed down for about five minutes to pump the oil from
the bilges and to toss illegal garbage overboard and then
went back to full cruising speed.

Since a ships log is considered a legal document they NEVER
put any incriminating information in the 'official' log. Truck
drivers do this all the time, as well. DOT, like the Coast Guard,
can and will use a log against you.

S.Simon
(Master Mariner)


"otnmbrd" wrote in message ink.net...

There are "Logs" and then there are "Logs". If you want to avoid
creating a single monster, you may want to create some separate logs to
cover certain areas .... crew list, equipment checks and maintenance
records, route plans with dates, etc., and keep your voyage log for nav
points, weather, course changes, watch changes, courses and speeds,
compass corrections, distances traveled.

otn

The Captains Master wrote:


Seeing as how there has been so much discussion about logs, and after
reading Donals poor example,I thought it might be a good idea to
discuss what information should be entered in this official and in
some cases legally bound document.

I'll start!

A crew list.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.







Simple Simon August 28th 03 04:25 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
Bwaahahahahhahahahahaha! I know more than you might
think I do. I certainly know enough to realize you guys
operate in a quasi-legal mode 100% of the time. This is
why you and your ilk represent a danger to all mariners
including yourselves.

You scofflaws attempt to give the impression that you're
professionals but nothing could be further from the truth.
You're a bunch of arrogant buffoons and liars who
represent the very worst of humanity. You can't even get
a job ashore so you, like a good deal of other criminal rabble,
take the only job you can get - as chief flunky aboard some
derelict freighter. That's why you hate the fact that decent,
law-abiding, sailors like myself who know the Rules and
recognize the abuses you so-called professionals perpetrate
to make a mockery out of them can easily point out your
abuses. I'm not one of the 'club'. I 've enough pride in
myself to never lower myself to your status. The day I take
money to abuse the law and my profession is the day I'll
put a gun to my headd. I'm one of the few mariners who
takes operating a vessel seriously and as such remain a
serious threat to any and all scofflaws.

S.Simon
Master Mariner

"otnmbrd" wrote in message nk.net...
Seriously doubt you know the difference between a "Rough Log", "Smooth
Log", and "Official Log".

otn

Simple Simon wrote:
Professional Captains often keep two logs. One for the
authorities and one for themselves. The one for the authorities
is keep short, concise and often does not reflect real life.

For example, Shen44 or otnmbrd will, in restricted visibility,
enter into the log something like, "Slowed down to a safe speed
as required by the Rules due to thick fog," while in fact they
slowed down for about five minutes to pump the oil from
the bilges and to toss illegal garbage overboard and then
went back to full cruising speed.

Since a ships log is considered a legal document they NEVER
put any incriminating information in the 'official' log. Truck
drivers do this all the time, as well. DOT, like the Coast Guard,
can and will use a log against you.

S.Simon
(Master Mariner)


"otnmbrd" wrote in message ink.net...

There are "Logs" and then there are "Logs". If you want to avoid
creating a single monster, you may want to create some separate logs to
cover certain areas .... crew list, equipment checks and maintenance
records, route plans with dates, etc., and keep your voyage log for nav
points, weather, course changes, watch changes, courses and speeds,
compass corrections, distances traveled.

otn

The Captains Master wrote:


Seeing as how there has been so much discussion about logs, and after
reading Donals poor example,I thought it might be a good idea to
discuss what information should be entered in this official and in
some cases legally bound document.

I'll start!

A crew list.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.









Bobsprit August 28th 03 05:44 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 

Bwaahahahahhahahahahaha! I know more than you might
think I do.

That little, eh?

RB

otnmbrd August 28th 03 05:49 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
ROFLMAO In other words, as expected, you DON'T know the difference.

otn

Simple Simon wrote:
Bwaahahahahhahahahahaha! I know more than you might
think I do. I certainly know enough to realize you guys
operate in a quasi-legal mode 100% of the time. This is
why you and your ilk represent a danger to all mariners
including yourselves.

You scofflaws attempt to give the impression that you're
professionals but nothing could be further from the truth.
You're a bunch of arrogant buffoons and liars who
represent the very worst of humanity. You can't even get
a job ashore so you, like a good deal of other criminal rabble,
take the only job you can get - as chief flunky aboard some
derelict freighter. That's why you hate the fact that decent,
law-abiding, sailors like myself who know the Rules and
recognize the abuses you so-called professionals perpetrate
to make a mockery out of them can easily point out your
abuses. I'm not one of the 'club'. I 've enough pride in
myself to never lower myself to your status. The day I take
money to abuse the law and my profession is the day I'll
put a gun to my headd. I'm one of the few mariners who
takes operating a vessel seriously and as such remain a
serious threat to any and all scofflaws.

S.Simon
Master Mariner

"otnmbrd" wrote in message nk.net...

Seriously doubt you know the difference between a "Rough Log", "Smooth
Log", and "Official Log".

otn



Jonathan Ganz August 28th 03 11:35 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
No. You're just stupid.

Quantity of Liquor = 10 cases of beer
Quality of Liquor = high


On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:30:04 +0000, Horvath wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 07:50:49 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Quantity and quality of liquor on board.


Now that's just silly. The list would fill up the whole page.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!



Bertie the Bunyip August 29th 03 01:17 AM

What should you enter in your log?
 
otnmbrd wrote in
nk.net:

Seriously doubt you know the difference between a "Rough Log", "Smooth
Log", and "Official Log".



Yeah, the first is peanuts, the second from Cheese and the third is the
floater (can't be flushed 0

Bertie

Horvath August 29th 03 02:30 AM

What should you enter in your log?
 
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:35:53 -0700, Jonathan Ganz
wrote this crap:

No. You're just stupid.

Quantity of Liquor = 10 cases of beer
Quality of Liquor = high


What about the rum? wine? vodka? tequilla? whiskey? scotch? gin?
slivovitz? bikaver? brandy? schnapps?




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Jonathan Ganz August 29th 03 04:20 AM

What should you enter in your log?
 
Ok, I give up. You're right.

How about liquor = lots, good?

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:30:02 +0000, Horvath wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:35:53 -0700, Jonathan Ganz
wrote this crap:

No. You're just stupid.

Quantity of Liquor = 10 cases of beer
Quality of Liquor = high


What about the rum? wine? vodka? tequilla? whiskey? scotch? gin?
slivovitz? bikaver? brandy? schnapps?




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!



Horvath August 29th 03 05:30 AM

What should you enter in your log?
 
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:20:09 -0700, Jonathan Ganz
wrote this crap:

Ok, I give up. You're right.


And don't *ever* forget it.


How about liquor = lots, good?

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:30:02 +0000, Horvath wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:35:53 -0700, Jonathan Ganz
wrote this crap:

No. You're just stupid.

Quantity of Liquor = 10 cases of beer
Quality of Liquor = high


What about the rum? wine? vodka? tequilla? whiskey? scotch? gin?
slivovitz? bikaver? brandy? schnapps?






Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Scout August 29th 03 12:27 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
Ganz,
you must've just watched that Oprah show: "Would You Rather Be Right - Or
Happy"
--
Scout
"I try to think but nothing happens."


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote
Ok, I give up. You're right.




Daedalus August 29th 03 12:50 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:17:58 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip ,
tried to sniff my butt and growled:

otnmbrd wrote in
ink.net:

Seriously doubt you know the difference between a "Rough Log", "Smooth
Log", and "Official Log".



Yeah, the first is peanuts, the second from Cheese and the third is the
floater (can't be flushed 0


Good anjswer! Then there's the captain's log...Curls the bowl before
getting pinched.

Jade


Bertie



Jonathan Ganz August 29th 03 04:25 PM

What should you enter in your log?
 
Forget that you're a fag? Not likely.

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 04:30:51 +0000, Horvath wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:20:09 -0700, Jonathan Ganz
wrote this crap:

Ok, I give up. You're right.


And don't *ever* forget it.


How about liquor = lots, good?

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:30:02 +0000, Horvath wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:35:53 -0700, Jonathan Ganz
wrote this crap:

No. You're just stupid.

Quantity of Liquor = 10 cases of beer
Quality of Liquor = high

What about the rum? wine? vodka? tequilla? whiskey? scotch? gin?
slivovitz? bikaver? brandy? schnapps?






Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!



Peter J Ross August 30th 03 01:30 AM

What should you enter in your log?
 
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 08:25:47 -0700, a team of surgeons from
alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Jonathan
Ganz:

Forget that you're a fag? Not likely.


That's easy for a transexual like you to say, Gans.

--
PJR :-)
mhm34x8
news:alt.fan.pjr
http://www.petitmorte.net/pjr/
http://www.pjr-online.co.uk/

/etc August 30th 03 04:33 AM

What should you enter in your log?
 
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 01:30:08 +0100, when the end of the tunnel became
apparent, Peter J Ross posted:

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 08:25:47 -0700, a team of surgeons from
alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Jonathan
Ganz:

Forget that you're a fag? Not likely.


That's easy for a transexual like you to say, Gans.


Gans is gooze in dutch, HTH


--
mhm 27x12



Peter J Ross August 30th 03 06:31 AM

What should you enter in your log?
 
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 05:33:41 +0200, a team of surgeons from
alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from /etc:

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 01:30:08 +0100, when the end of the tunnel became
apparent, Peter J Ross posted:

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 08:25:47 -0700, a team of surgeons from
alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Jonathan
Ganz:

Forget that you're a fag? Not likely.


That's easy for a transexual like you to say, Gans.


Gans is gooze in dutch, HTH


And in German too! :-D

Why did you *think* I was calling him Gans? :-D :-D :-D

honkhonkhonkhonkhonk

--
PJR :-)
mhm34x8
news:alt.fan.pjr
http://www.petitmorte.net/pjr/
http://www.pjr-online.co.uk/
"I am frequently brain-damaged" - Tom Bishop


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