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Capt.American August 13th 03 09:48 PM

What are the Swiss hiding ~~~Estonia ferry
 
Maybe you can answer it Per you live nearby. Over 800 people died and
the swiss govt tried to incase the the whole wreck in cement (never
done before for any reason). Divers recently found a big hole blown in
the side, and sonar scans prove the swiss govt lied about where they
found that visor bow.

Its a sad state of affairs when the swiss govt leaves 800 of thier
fellow citizens bodies on the ocean floor. And the only reason they do
it is to keep others from diving the wreck and finding out what
happened.

What are they hiding? Do you have a clue?


Capt. American

Gilligan August 13th 03 09:53 PM

What are the Swiss hiding ~~~Estonia ferry
 
Switzerland does not border an ocean.

Do you mean Sweden?

"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
Maybe you can answer it Per you live nearby. Over 800 people died and
the swiss govt tried to incase the the whole wreck in cement (never
done before for any reason). Divers recently found a big hole blown in
the side, and sonar scans prove the swiss govt lied about where they
found that visor bow.

Its a sad state of affairs when the swiss govt leaves 800 of thier
fellow citizens bodies on the ocean floor. And the only reason they do
it is to keep others from diving the wreck and finding out what
happened.

What are they hiding? Do you have a clue?


Capt. American




Per Elmsäter August 13th 03 09:56 PM

What are the Swiss hiding ~~~Estonia ferry
 
Capt.American wrote:
Maybe you can answer it Per you live nearby. Over 800 people died and
the swiss govt tried to incase the the whole wreck in cement (never
done before for any reason). Divers recently found a big hole blown in
the side, and sonar scans prove the swiss govt lied about where they
found that visor bow.

Its a sad state of affairs when the swiss govt leaves 800 of thier
fellow citizens bodies on the ocean floor. And the only reason they do
it is to keep others from diving the wreck and finding out what
happened.

What are they hiding? Do you have a clue?


If I did I could make a fortune selling the story to the media.



Capt. American


As far as I understand the swiss had nothing to do with this. If anybody it
was the Swedish govenrment. I got disinterested in the whole thing after it
turned into a scandalous affair and really don't know who said what. I am
content that the ship didn't sink the next day because my girlfriend was
scheduled on that very ship the very next day.

--
Perre

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sv \Sensoria\ August 13th 03 10:15 PM

What are the Swiss hiding ~~~Estonia ferry
 
We all know what Capt. American means......It's not the American's fault
they do not tech proper geography....


"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
Switzerland does not border an ocean.

Do you mean Sweden?

"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
Maybe you can answer it Per you live nearby. Over 800 people died and
the swiss govt tried to incase the the whole wreck in cement (never
done before for any reason). Divers recently found a big hole blown in
the side, and sonar scans prove the swiss govt lied about where they
found that visor bow.

Its a sad state of affairs when the swiss govt leaves 800 of thier
fellow citizens bodies on the ocean floor. And the only reason they do
it is to keep others from diving the wreck and finding out what
happened.

What are they hiding? Do you have a clue?


Capt. American






Scout August 14th 03 12:15 AM

What are the Swiss hiding ~~~Estonia ferry
 
The Swiss had a theory but it was full of holes.
Scout

"Gilligan" wrote
Switzerland does not border an ocean.
Do you mean Sweden?




Scout August 14th 03 12:23 AM

What are the Swiss hiding ~~~Estonia ferry
 
Can't we just call it the United States of Europe?
I mean, we were considerate enough to have a civil war just so non-Americans
wouldn't have to memorize a bunch of different names.
BTW - here's a cool map I use whenever I can't remember where I parked my
car, or the currency used in Bhutan.
http://go.hrw.com/atlas/norm_htm/world.htm
Scout

"sv "Sensoria"" wrote
We all know what Capt. American means......It's not the American's fault
they do not tech proper geography....




katysails August 14th 03 03:23 AM

What are the Swiss hiding ~~~Estonia ferry
 
Switzerland does not border an ocean.

Do you mean Sweden?

Another great example of a US citizen not having a clue about
geography....It's a wonder Capt America made it to Hawaii...or maybe he just
thought it was Hawaii?

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



katysails August 14th 03 03:26 AM

What are the Swiss hiding ~~~Estonia ferry
 

It's not the American's fault
they do not tech proper geography....

And it's not Canada's fault they did not "tech" you proper
English....Geography is taught but there is no great emphasis on the
subject. Most children take geography in the late elementary years and by
the time they are in high school, they forget what they learned.
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



katysails August 14th 03 03:30 AM

What are the Swiss hiding ~~~Estonia ferry
 
Nice site, Scout. I've been readying a bunch of stuff for a garage sale and
came across the school globe we bought the kids when they were little.
There isn't much right about it anymore. There are countries there that do
not now exist, and visa versa. And all within the space of 25 years. No
wonder people are confused about geography. Geography is confused about
geography.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Gilligan August 14th 03 04:12 AM

What are the Swiss hiding ~~~Estonia ferry
 
He actually landed on Gilligan's Island

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Switzerland does not border an ocean.

Do you mean Sweden?

Another great example of a US citizen not having a clue about
geography....It's a wonder Capt America made it to Hawaii...or maybe he

just
thought it was Hawaii?

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein





Steve Thomas August 14th 03 11:41 AM

What are the Swiss hiding ~~~Estonia ferry
 
The borders in Europe have moved around a lot it it true.
It was interesting though, when a few years ago a friend of mine had to
travel to Wurtzberg and the only map of Germany I had was in an 1890 atlas.
All of the cities and towns are still in the same places.

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Nice site, Scout. I've been readying a bunch of stuff for a garage sale

and
came across the school globe we bought the kids when they were little.
There isn't much right about it anymore. There are countries there that

do
not now exist, and visa versa. And all within the space of 25 years. No
wonder people are confused about geography. Geography is confused about
geography.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein





katysails August 14th 03 01:02 PM

What are the Swiss hiding ~~~Estonia ferry
 
All of the cities and towns are still in the same places.

Yes, but it's countries that are studied in Geography....there is no more
USSR as we knew it, there is no longer the Yugoslavia we've known, and in
Africa, it's a wonder some of the people can even remember what their
country is being calaled this week.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Per Elmsäter August 14th 03 01:23 PM

What are the Swiss hiding ~~~Estonia ferry
 
Steve Thomas wrote:
The borders in Europe have moved around a lot it it true.
It was interesting though, when a few years ago a friend of mine had
to travel to Wurtzberg and the only map of Germany I had was in an
1890 atlas. All of the cities and towns are still in the same places.


Yes in Europe we do not move our citys and towns anymore. We used to but
gave it up when the labour unions grew too strong. Sometimes we annihilate
them though. That was popular about 60 years ago.

--
Perre

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Bertie the Bunyip August 14th 03 04:26 PM

What are the Swiss hiding ~~~Estonia ferry
 
"katysails" wrote in news:bhftko$9m3t$1@ID-
178897.news.uni-berlin.de:

All of the cities and towns are still in the same places.

Yes, but it's countries that are studied in Geography....


snort!


Bwawhahwhahhwhah! Yeah, third grade geography.

Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip August 15th 03 06:57 AM

What are the Swiss hiding ~~~Estonia ferry
 
Peter J Ross wrote in
:

alt.sailing.asa has never been the same since Thu, 14 Aug 2003
08:02:19 -0400, when katysails wrote:

All of the cities and towns are still in the same places.

Yes, but it's countries that are studied in Geography....


Wow.

And I thought you couldn't get any stupider.


You really can't underestimate them, can you?

Bertie

there is no more
USSR as we knew it, there is no longer the Yugoslavia we've known, and in
Africa, it's a wonder some of the people can even remember what their
country is being calaled this week.




Scott Vernon August 16th 03 09:08 PM

What are the Swedes hiding ~~~Estonia ferry
 
How many Americans were killed in Iraq? 60? Why isn't Bob**** protesting
the Swedish gov't and their cover up involving 900 innocent lives. This is
appalling!

Scotty


"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
Maybe you can answer it Per you live nearby. Over 800 people died and
the swiss govt tried to incase the the whole wreck in cement (never
done before for any reason). Divers recently found a big hole blown in
the side, and sonar scans prove the swiss govt lied about where they
found that visor bow.

Its a sad state of affairs when the swiss govt leaves 800 of thier
fellow citizens bodies on the ocean floor. And the only reason they do
it is to keep others from diving the wreck and finding out what
happened.

What are they hiding? Do you have a clue?


Capt. American




Scott Vernon August 20th 03 02:41 AM

What are the Swedes hiding ~~~Estonia ferry
 
Somehow he'll blame it on GW.

Scotty

"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

...
How many Americans were killed in Iraq? 60? Why isn't Bob****

protesting
the Swedish gov't and their cover up involving 900 innocent lives. This

is
appalling!

Scotty


I agree with you Scotty, Over 800 for sure died that night and Bobby
could care less. It's the biggest marine loss since WW11 for the
Swedes, and all they wanted to do is incase it in concrete. I think
someone was smuggling arms.
Hmmmmmmmm

Capt. American





"Capt.American" wrote in message
om...
Maybe you can answer it Per you live nearby. Over 800 people died and
the swiss govt tried to incase the the whole wreck in cement (never
done before for any reason). Divers recently found a big hole blown in
the side, and sonar scans prove the swiss govt lied about where they
found that visor bow.

Its a sad state of affairs when the swiss govt leaves 800 of thier
fellow citizens bodies on the ocean floor. And the only reason they do
it is to keep others from diving the wreck and finding out what
happened.

What are they hiding? Do you have a clue?


Capt. American




Per Elmsäter August 20th 03 09:34 PM

What are the Swedes hiding ~~~Estonia ferry
 
Scott Vernon wrote:
Per should hang his head in shame.



What makes you think you know how it's hanging ;)
Besides as I said earlier, I was so happy that it didn't sink the next day
when my girlfriend was booked to go, that I didn't really care to follow all
those politics. Can you imagine how many opportunists have taken a shot at
making a film about this and the TV stations almost always bought them since
everything that was said about this had such impact and was so important to
the public etc, etc.

--
Perre

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