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Bobsprit August 13th 03 03:23 PM

Welcome!
 
Welcome, my friends! Welcome to Jurassic Winch!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/winche.jpg

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Simple Simon August 13th 03 03:27 PM

Welcome!
 
It's a beautiful thing, isn't it? Consider the fact that
this functional hunk of bronze is probably older than
you are and have a little respect for your elders, please.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
Welcome, my friends! Welcome to Jurassic Winch!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/winche.jpg

Bwahahahaha!

RB




Simple Simon August 13th 03 03:39 PM

Welcome!
 
Have you checked out the latest addition to MY
all-girl crew?

http://www.homestead.com/captneal/Crew.html

Puts your Casper the Ghost look-alikes to shame
doesn't she?


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
Welcome, my friends! Welcome to Jurassic Winch!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/winche.jpg

Bwahahahaha!

RB




Simple Simon August 13th 03 03:45 PM

Welcome!
 
Hey, stupid, don't you know that winches ratchet?

Only an idiot turns a winch 360 degrees so he can
fall overboard doing it or lose the handle overboard.

S.Simon


"DSK" wrote in message ...
"Bobsprit" wrote
Welcome, my friends! Welcome to Jurassic Winch!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/winche.jpg




Simple Simon wrote:
It's a beautiful thing, isn't it?


The most beautiful thing about it is that the winch handle can't be turned because of the bimini.
Obviously this winch never gets used to trim a sheet, which is hardly surprising on a boat that never
sails.

DSK





Flying Tadpole August 13th 03 03:52 PM

Welcome!
 


Bobsprit wrote:

Welcome, my friends! Welcome to Jurassic Winch!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/winche.jpg

Bwahahahaha!


What's a winch?

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace!
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felton August 13th 03 04:23 PM

Welcome!
 
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:45:16 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

Hey, stupid, don't you know that winches ratchet?

Only an idiot turns a winch 360 degrees so he can
fall overboard doing it or lose the handle overboard.

S.Simon


Hey Cappy...

Here is an ad from our Dallas paper that may be of interest to you...

"Coronado 27 10Hp electric start, 2-spd wenches, 3 sails, $3200 (972)
292-1300"

Looks to come complete with female crew. Two birds, one stone...:)




"DSK" wrote in message ...
"Bobsprit" wrote
Welcome, my friends! Welcome to Jurassic Winch!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/winche.jpg



Simple Simon wrote:
It's a beautiful thing, isn't it?


The most beautiful thing about it is that the winch handle can't be turned because of the bimini.
Obviously this winch never gets used to trim a sheet, which is hardly surprising on a boat that never
sails.

DSK





Bobsprit August 13th 03 04:30 PM

Welcome!
 
It's a beautiful thing, isn't it? Consider the fact that
this functional hunk of bronze is probably older than
you are

So's a 1955 GE Toaster. Don't want one of those either.

RB

Bobsprit August 13th 03 04:31 PM

Welcome!
 
Only an idiot turns a winch 360 degrees so he can
fall overboard doing it or lose the handle overboard.

Fall overboard????
Oh yeah, this is the same guy who gets tripped up by bridgedecks!!!

Oh the humanity!

RB

DSK August 13th 03 04:42 PM

Welcome!
 
Simple Simon wrote:

Only an idiot turns a winch 360 degrees so he can
fall overboard doing it or lose the handle overboard.


As opposed to the idiot who mounted the bimini so that the sheets cannot be led fair to the winch, nor the
winch handle turned....

Anyone who actually sailed would have forseen this problem.

As I said, it hardly matters on a boat that never sails anyway.

DSK



Simple Simon August 13th 03 05:37 PM

Welcome!
 
Perhaps your ignorance can be forgiven because
snapshots don't show angles too well but the
bimini frame in no way interferes with the run of
the lines.

Yes, the frame does make it impossible to turn
the winch handle through 360 degrees but, like
I said, that does not matter. The handle turns freely
through more than 180 degrees and that's plenty
enough to ratchet a sheet up tightly.

Hey, I'm sorry if I'm not as stupid as you are.
I am smart enough to realize not being able to
turn a winch handle through 360 degrees is much
more preferable than sitting in the sun getting
skin cancer. But, then again, I guess sitting in
the air conditioned pilot house of your trawler
provides you with plenty of shade so what would
YOU know about a bimini.

S.Simon




"DSK" wrote in message ...
Simple Simon wrote:

Only an idiot turns a winch 360 degrees so he can
fall overboard doing it or lose the handle overboard.


As opposed to the idiot who mounted the bimini so that the sheets cannot be led fair to the winch, nor the
winch handle turned....

Anyone who actually sailed would have forseen this problem.

As I said, it hardly matters on a boat that never sails anyway.

DSK





Simple Simon August 13th 03 05:39 PM

Welcome!
 
1955? Hmmmm . . .

That's about the year of birth of your lovely wife.

If you don't want her because of her vintage I'll
take her off your chubby little hands.

S.Simon



"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...

So's a 1955 GE Toaster. Don't want one of those either.




Bobsprit August 13th 03 05:40 PM

Welcome!
 
Perhaps your ignorance can be forgiven because
snapshots don't show angles too well

In other words, you can't set up a bimini AND you can't take a good picture.

Bwahahaha!

RB

Simple Simon August 13th 03 05:50 PM

Welcome!
 
And you believe THAT! Bwwwaaaaaaahahahahahahahah!


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
1955? Hmmmm . . .

That's about the year of birth of your lovely wife.

Suzanne is 35.




Thom Stewart August 13th 03 07:07 PM

Welcome!
 
Neal,

I have to compliment you on the condition of those cockpit seats. Most
Coronados are a splintery mess. At least what I can see at the hinge
looks great!

Ole Thom


Jonathan Ganz August 13th 03 07:21 PM

Welcome!
 
Yup... just like the old ones on my Cal 20 until I removed them.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Welcome, my friends! Welcome to Jurassic Winch!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/winche.jpg

Bwahahahaha!

RB




Jonathan Ganz August 13th 03 07:21 PM

Welcome!
 
Winch handles, at least most modern ones, lock in the winch.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Hey, stupid, don't you know that winches ratchet?

Only an idiot turns a winch 360 degrees so he can
fall overboard doing it or lose the handle overboard.

S.Simon


"DSK" wrote in message

...
"Bobsprit" wrote
Welcome, my friends! Welcome to Jurassic Winch!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/winche.jpg



Simple Simon wrote:
It's a beautiful thing, isn't it?


The most beautiful thing about it is that the winch handle can't be

turned because of the bimini.
Obviously this winch never gets used to trim a sheet, which is hardly

surprising on a boat that never
sails.

DSK







Simple Simon August 13th 03 08:00 PM

Welcome!
 
Thanks Thom. Good eye!

I got tired of the rotten wood a couple of years ago and made
the seats/locker hatches out of 3/4" Star Board® which is a plastic
guaranteed for life. Expensive as hell but worth it. I will never
have to maintain rotting wood hatches again. Between the two
hatches there is 250 dollars of plastic. (including the cost to
have them custom cut and beveled.

S.Simon


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
Neal,

I have to compliment you on the condition of those cockpit seats. Most
Coronados are a splintery mess. At least what I can see at the hinge
looks great!

Ole Thom




Simple Simon August 13th 03 08:01 PM

Welcome!
 
True but one bump on the button or latch and
off they go . . .


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
Winch handles, at least most modern ones, lock in the winch.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Hey, stupid, don't you know that winches ratchet?

Only an idiot turns a winch 360 degrees so he can
fall overboard doing it or lose the handle overboard.

S.Simon


"DSK" wrote in message

...
"Bobsprit" wrote
Welcome, my friends! Welcome to Jurassic Winch!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/winche.jpg



Simple Simon wrote:
It's a beautiful thing, isn't it?

The most beautiful thing about it is that the winch handle can't be

turned because of the bimini.
Obviously this winch never gets used to trim a sheet, which is hardly

surprising on a boat that never
sails.

DSK









Simple Simon August 13th 03 08:03 PM

Welcome!
 
What's your problem? Never ratcheted a winch?

When you work on your engine do you not take
out any bolt or nut where you cannot turn the
ratchet handle 360º?

Why do winches ratchet in the first place?


"Marc" wrote in message ...
Thats it! You are insane. Only possible explanation.

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:45:16 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

Hey, stupid, don't you know that winches ratchet?

Only an idiot turns a winch 360 degrees so he can
fall overboard doing it or lose the handle overboard.

S.Simon


"DSK" wrote in message ...
"Bobsprit" wrote
Welcome, my friends! Welcome to Jurassic Winch!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/winche.jpg



Simple Simon wrote:
It's a beautiful thing, isn't it?

The most beautiful thing about it is that the winch handle can't be turned because of the bimini.
Obviously this winch never gets used to trim a sheet, which is hardly surprising on a boat that never
sails.

DSK







Marc August 13th 03 08:46 PM

Welcome!
 
Ratcheting winches are a useful feature. A. bimini which prevents the
360* sweep of your winch handle is bad design. And don't even begin to
tell me you never used the high speed 360* sweep to bring in
moderately loaded genoa sheet fast.....wait a minute... you don't have
a two speed self tailing winch. You're entombed in a Coranado. My bad.


On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:03:34 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

What's your problem? Never ratcheted a winch?

When you work on your engine do you not take
out any bolt or nut where you cannot turn the
ratchet handle 360º?

Why do winches ratchet in the first place?


"Marc" wrote in message ...
Thats it! You are insane. Only possible explanation.

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:45:16 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

Hey, stupid, don't you know that winches ratchet?

Only an idiot turns a winch 360 degrees so he can
fall overboard doing it or lose the handle overboard.

S.Simon


"DSK" wrote in message ...
"Bobsprit" wrote
Welcome, my friends! Welcome to Jurassic Winch!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/winche.jpg



Simple Simon wrote:
It's a beautiful thing, isn't it?

The most beautiful thing about it is that the winch handle can't be turned because of the bimini.
Obviously this winch never gets used to trim a sheet, which is hardly surprising on a boat that never
sails.

DSK







DSK August 13th 03 08:54 PM

Welcome!
 
Simple Simon wrote:

Thanks Thom. Good eye!

I got tired of the rotten wood a couple of years ago and made
the seats/locker hatches out of 3/4" Star Board® which is a plastic
guaranteed for life.


Makes one wonder why the hatches weren't made out of a suitable material in the first place.


Expensive as hell but worth it. I will never
have to maintain rotting wood hatches again. Between the two
hatches there is 250 dollars of plastic.


Thus doubling the value of your vessel.

(including the cost to
have them custom cut and beveled.


What, don't you know how to cut a bevel?

DSK



Simple Simon August 13th 03 08:55 PM

Welcome!
 
On a 27-footer any sailor is not a real man unless he can
haul all but the last couple feet of sheet even on a 170
percent genny by strength of leg, chest, arm and hand.
The sheet winches are only needed for that last few
stubborn feet.

Given the circumference of the drum of about 8 inches
it only takes three revolutions to take up a couple feet. That
translates to six half revolutions. Big deal, man!

The Bimini frame stays exactly where I put it so go ****
yourself. Worry about your own boat, that is if you even
have one.

S.Simon


"Marc" wrote in message ...
Ratcheting winches are a useful feature. A. bimini which prevents the
360* sweep of your winch handle is bad design. And don't even begin to
tell me you never used the high speed 360* sweep to bring in
moderately loaded genoa sheet fast.....wait a minute... you don't have
a two speed self tailing winch. You're entombed in a Coranado. My bad.


On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:03:34 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

What's your problem? Never ratcheted a winch?

When you work on your engine do you not take
out any bolt or nut where you cannot turn the
ratchet handle 360º?

Why do winches ratchet in the first place?


"Marc" wrote in message ...
Thats it! You are insane. Only possible explanation.

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:45:16 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

Hey, stupid, don't you know that winches ratchet?

Only an idiot turns a winch 360 degrees so he can
fall overboard doing it or lose the handle overboard.

S.Simon


"DSK" wrote in message ...
"Bobsprit" wrote
Welcome, my friends! Welcome to Jurassic Winch!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/winche.jpg



Simple Simon wrote:
It's a beautiful thing, isn't it?

The most beautiful thing about it is that the winch handle can't be turned because of the bimini.
Obviously this winch never gets used to trim a sheet, which is hardly surprising on a boat that never
sails.

DSK









Jonathan Ganz August 14th 03 12:55 AM

Welcome!
 
Get the ones that float, then you have plenty of opportunity
to practice MOB drills.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
True but one bump on the button or latch and
off they go . . .


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

...
Winch handles, at least most modern ones, lock in the winch.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Hey, stupid, don't you know that winches ratchet?

Only an idiot turns a winch 360 degrees so he can
fall overboard doing it or lose the handle overboard.

S.Simon


"DSK" wrote in message

...
"Bobsprit" wrote
Welcome, my friends! Welcome to Jurassic Winch!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/winche.jpg



Simple Simon wrote:
It's a beautiful thing, isn't it?

The most beautiful thing about it is that the winch handle can't be

turned because of the bimini.
Obviously this winch never gets used to trim a sheet, which is

hardly
surprising on a boat that never
sails.

DSK











Jonathan Ganz August 14th 03 12:56 AM

Welcome!
 
You don't need strength as any competent sailor knows; you
need timing. We never use a winch handle on the Catalina 27.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
On a 27-footer any sailor is not a real man unless he can
haul all but the last couple feet of sheet even on a 170
percent genny by strength of leg, chest, arm and hand.
The sheet winches are only needed for that last few
stubborn feet.

Given the circumference of the drum of about 8 inches
it only takes three revolutions to take up a couple feet. That
translates to six half revolutions. Big deal, man!

The Bimini frame stays exactly where I put it so go ****
yourself. Worry about your own boat, that is if you even
have one.

S.Simon


"Marc" wrote in message

...
Ratcheting winches are a useful feature. A. bimini which prevents the
360* sweep of your winch handle is bad design. And don't even begin to
tell me you never used the high speed 360* sweep to bring in
moderately loaded genoa sheet fast.....wait a minute... you don't have
a two speed self tailing winch. You're entombed in a Coranado. My bad.


On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:03:34 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

What's your problem? Never ratcheted a winch?

When you work on your engine do you not take
out any bolt or nut where you cannot turn the
ratchet handle 360º?

Why do winches ratchet in the first place?


"Marc" wrote in message

...
Thats it! You are insane. Only possible explanation.

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:45:16 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

Hey, stupid, don't you know that winches ratchet?

Only an idiot turns a winch 360 degrees so he can
fall overboard doing it or lose the handle overboard.

S.Simon


"DSK" wrote in message

...
"Bobsprit" wrote
Welcome, my friends! Welcome to Jurassic Winch!

http://captneal.homestead.com/files/winche.jpg



Simple Simon wrote:
It's a beautiful thing, isn't it?

The most beautiful thing about it is that the winch handle can't

be turned because of the bimini.
Obviously this winch never gets used to trim a sheet, which is

hardly surprising on a boat that never
sails.

DSK












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