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[email protected] August 8th 03 07:46 PM

Not to "blame the victim" . . . BUT:
 

The report in the most current issue of "Soundings" of the recent L.I.
Sound collision-caused death (from a heart attack triggered by the
crash) of an otherwise *very* experienced/skillful and also
asssertedly safety-oriented captain/sailor when the J-105 in which he
was sleeping, crewed by his son and a friend, was motoring late at
night in the fog toward Block Island and was hit and sunk by a large
commercial cruiser reports that the J-105's two crew saw the
approaching motor boat (said to be moving at +/- 6 kts) but could not
disengage their autopilot in time to take evasive action . . . thus
raising the question:

How many of us who occasionally use these sorts of instruments take
the time and make the effort to be sure that crew actually knows how,
f'rinstance, to disengage an autopilot, etc., Etc. (however
"simple"/easy, and "obvious"?, one might think that and related
operations ought be and usually are)?

otnmbrd August 8th 03 09:14 PM

Not to "blame the victim" . . . BUT:
 
Dem folks gots big problems when this gets to court. Using an autopilot
in fog is a no-no, and this shows part of the reason why.

otn

wrote:
The report in the most current issue of "Soundings" of the recent L.I.
Sound collision-caused death (from a heart attack triggered by the
crash) of an otherwise *very* experienced/skillful and also
asssertedly safety-oriented captain/sailor when the J-105 in which he
was sleeping, crewed by his son and a friend, was motoring late at
night in the fog toward Block Island and was hit and sunk by a large
commercial cruiser reports that the J-105's two crew saw the
approaching motor boat (said to be moving at +/- 6 kts) but could not
disengage their autopilot in time to take evasive action . . . thus
raising the question:

How many of us who occasionally use these sorts of instruments take
the time and make the effort to be sure that crew actually knows how,
f'rinstance, to disengage an autopilot, etc., Etc. (however
"simple"/easy, and "obvious"?, one might think that and related
operations ought be and usually are)?



[email protected] August 8th 03 10:43 PM

Not to "blame the victim" . . . BUT:
 
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003, otnmbrd wrote:

Dem folks gots big problems when this gets
to court. Using an autopilot in fog is a no-no,
and this shows part of the reason why.


One of the quites raised but not yet (reliably) reported (and to which
I don't know or suggest the answer) is, of course, whether the large
motor boat folks were relying on *their* autopilot.

(There have been conflicting reports about the motor vessel's speed
and its operator's reputation for care.)

wrote:
. . . . "Soundings" . . . reports that the
J-105's two crew saw the approaching
motor boat . . .but could not disengage
their autopilot in time to take evasive
action . . . .


otnmbrd August 9th 03 03:23 AM

Not to "blame the victim" . . . BUT:
 
ROFLMAO ...... You lose ...... and again ..... wanna borrow a book on
rules? .... comes with a 6 year old who can explain the meaning to ya
.....if you can keep your hands to yourself and listen, you'll learn a
bunch .....about the rules of the boating road, I mean.

otn

Simple Simon wrote:

"otnmbrd" wrote in message ink.net...

I am a blue boy. I love to bugger Jeff and that little
pimply-arsed Shen44.

I don't know the first thing about the COLREGS but I do know
a tight rectum when I feel one.

otn





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