Thanks, Skitch
 

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/genera...rkwave_sml.jpg


That's one scary picture.


RB

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"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
http://www.sailinganarchy.com/genera...rkwave_sml.jpg


That's one scary picture.

You're scared of dolphins????



Regards


Donal
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Thanks, Skitch
 

The distortion offered by the wave would make it impossible for anyone but a
qualified marine biologist specializing in sharks or cetaceans to offer a
viable estimation.

I'm qualified. The shape of the dorsal indicates a Bull Shark, one of the more
aggressive species.

RB

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agreed looks to much like shark to me, hummm what's for dinner lol

NH_/)_


"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
The distortion offered by the wave would make it impossible for anyone but
a
qualified marine biologist specializing in sharks or cetaceans to offer a
viable estimation.

I'm qualified. The shape of the dorsal indicates a Bull Shark, one of the
more
aggressive species.

RB

Thanks, Skitch
 

Oh, Yah! You're qualified all right!

http://www.surfshooter.com/DolphinInfo.html

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!


"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
The distortion offered by the wave would make it impossible for anyone but a
qualified marine biologist specializing in sharks or cetaceans to offer a
viable estimation.

I'm qualified. The shape of the dorsal indicates a Bull Shark, one of the more
aggressive species.

RB

Thanks, Skitch
 

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
The distortion offered by the wave would make it impossible for anyone but
a
qualified marine biologist specializing in sharks or cetaceans to offer a
viable estimation.

I'm qualified. The shape of the dorsal indicates a Bull Shark, one of the
more
aggressive species.

You're busted. The content of your post indicates a Bull Shi**er, one of
the dumbest of our species.


Bad day, eh, Bob?


Regards



Donal
--

Thanks, Skitch
 

You are an idiot. It's a dolphin. The fin, tail flukes and head shape
are unmistakable.

Cheers MC

CANDChelp wrote:
http://www.sailinganarchy.com/genera...rkwave_sml.jpg


That's one scary picture.


You're scared of dolphins????

Also: Position and size of the Dorsal is wrong for a Dolphin. It's also a bit
large for a dolphin.
You must have studied marine bio the same place you learned how to sail!!!

bwahahahaaha!

RB

Thanks, Skitch
 

Damn you spoiled the debate there! I guess we should start a list about
things booby knows nothing about? How about it Oz.

Cheers MC

Jeff Morris wrote:
Oh, Yah! You're qualified all right!

http://www.surfshooter.com/DolphinInfo.html

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!


"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...

The distortion offered by the wave would make it impossible for anyone but a
qualified marine biologist specializing in sharks or cetaceans to offer a
viable estimation.

I'm qualified. The shape of the dorsal indicates a Bull Shark, one of the more
aggressive species.

RB

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Way to ruin the fun!


RB

Wow
 

Great find!

that ends that discussion - still a great shot!


"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
Oh, Yah! You're qualified all right!

http://www.surfshooter.com/DolphinInfo.html

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!


"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
The distortion offered by the wave would make it impossible for anyone
but a
qualified marine biologist specializing in sharks or cetaceans to offer
a
viable estimation.

I'm qualified. The shape of the dorsal indicates a Bull Shark, one of
the more
aggressive species.

RB

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On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:21:29 GMT, "NH_/\)_"
wrote:

agreed looks to much like shark to me, hummm what's for dinner lol

NH_/)_


"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
The distortion offered by the wave would make it impossible for anyone but
a
qualified marine biologist specializing in sharks or cetaceans to offer a
viable estimation.

I'm qualified. The shape of the dorsal indicates a Bull Shark, one of the
more
aggressive species.

Bull****. You can't tell what species it is from a photo like that.
dorsal fin shape is just *one* determining factor in keying out a
species.

And if you want to argue about it, I *am* a marine biologist and
spent 5 years working on sharks, including junior authorship on 2
scientific publications and first author on more than a dozen internal
publications for CSIRO Marine and the Fed Govt Department of Primary
Industries (including marine fisheries). I still have most of my
fisheries reference library sitting on my bookshelf.

Bob****, you're full of ****. The only qualification you have is a
limited imagination and the ability to type.

Peter Wiley

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Hahahahahahahhaha - You certainly are qualified!

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
The distortion offered by the wave would make it impossible for anyone but
a
qualified marine biologist specializing in sharks or cetaceans to offer a
viable estimation.

I'm qualified. The shape of the dorsal indicates a Bull Shark, one of the
more
aggressive species.

RB

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On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:36:21 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

Hahahahahahahhaha - You certainly are qualified!

Shouldn't that be 'certified' ???

PDW

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
The distortion offered by the wave would make it impossible for anyone but
a
qualified marine biologist specializing in sharks or cetaceans to offer a
viable estimation.

I'm qualified. The shape of the dorsal indicates a Bull Shark, one of the
more
aggressive species.

RB

Thanks, Skitch
 

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:23:50 +1000, Oz1
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:20:48 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:



Looks more like a porpoise to me.

Heh heh, Now that is a fine bait!

Care to venture an opinion on how many shark species there are that
have a pronounced hooked dorsal fin, small to nonexistent second
dorsal fin and a homocercal tail?

Thanks, Skitch
 

Well you are wrong.

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:
Looks more like a porpoise to me.

"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

You are an idiot. It's a dolphin. The fin, tail flukes and head shape
are unmistakable.

Cheers MC

CANDChelp wrote:

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/genera...rkwave_sml.jpg


That's one scary picture.


You're scared of dolphins????

Also: Position and size of the Dorsal is wrong for a Dolphin. It's also a bit
large for a dolphin.
You must have studied marine bio the same place you learned how to sail!!!

bwahahahaaha!

RB

Thanks, Skitch
 

Let's add to that sail trim!

Cheers MC

Oz1 wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:21:43 +1200, The_navigator©
wrote:


Damn you spoiled the debate there! I guess we should start a list about
things booby knows nothing about? How about it Oz.

Cheers MC


Well we've got a start....Sharks fer sure!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Thanks, Skitch
 

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:12:52 +1000, Oz1
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 04:54:03 GMT, (Peter
Wiley) wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:18:38 +1000, Oz1
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:12:40 GMT, (Peter
Wiley) wrote:

And if you want to argue about it, I *am* a marine biologist and
spent 5 years working on sharks, including junior authorship on 2
scientific publications and first author on more than a dozen internal
publications for CSIRO Marine and the Fed Govt Department of Primary
Industries (including marine fisheries). I still have most of my
fisheries reference library sitting on my bookshelf.

Bob****, you're full of ****. The only qualification you have is a
limited imagination and the ability to type.

Peter Wiley


Wow!
Capt Hornblower blowing his own trumpet!

Got up on the wrong side of the bed today, Oz? Collarbone hurts a lot?

Yeah, have you noticed its cold up here?

Nope, I'm back in Hobart. It's cold, wet *and* bloody windy here. So
I'm not in a real good humour either.....


Some of us have been there, done that, and others - like, it would
appear, you - just wish you had and carp from the sidelines. Of
course, in your case you can & do claim anything but won't back it up
when asked.

Who's asking?

Well, I wasn't really and can't think offhand of something to ask at
the moment either....

Want to debate the identification of shark species and how to key them
out by differences in morphology? Go for it; I've got 5 weeks before
sailing. If not, shut up; I've caught, identified, tagged & released
more sharks than you'll see in a lifetime. Take a couple Pethidine
pills & lie down until you can concentrate sufficiently to post
something germane.

Hey Pete, You switched to a soprano sax..straight or bent?

I've always been straight :-)

Thanks, Skitch
 

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:27:07 +1000, Oz1
wrote:



Got up on the wrong side of the bed today, Oz? Collarbone hurts a lot?

Yeah, have you noticed its cold up here?

Actually the reason I'm grumpy is because I'm up to the wiring stage
of the Clubman I'm building and I can't pull wires, hold and crimp em.
Wanted it finished by summer and I've just realised it's not gonna
happen.

You have my sympathy. I'm going south in 5 weeks, more or less, and I
still don't have the kitchen in my new cottage!!!! Septic system &
bathroom, floor sanded & sealed - can't move in without the kitchen
finished AND IT'S RAINING AGAIN!!!!!!

2 Tasmanian winters spent building a new house is a bit much. What I
get for spending summers at sea.

AND it hurts!

Yeah - broke 3 ribs once. I haven't forgotten it. Inner Circle rum is
back in production, there's a bottle shop in Epping stocking it.
Self-administer until numb.

Thanks, Skitch
 

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:16:39 +1000, Oz1
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:04:40 GMT, (Peter
Wiley) wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:23:50 +1000, Oz1
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:20:48 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:



Looks more like a porpoise to me.

Heh heh, Now that is a fine bait!

Care to venture an opinion on how many shark species there are that
have a pronounced hooked dorsal fin, small to nonexistent second
dorsal fin and a homocercal tail?

You talking to me?

Sometimes. On some topics.

If so you just didn't get it.
Wanna tell me if it was a porpoise of a dolphin, please consider the
location.

Btw you can answer your own question for us...you've got five weeks
and it'll save ammo.

Far as I'm aware, there aren't any. Only the pelagic sharks have
homocercal tails. Of those, I can't think of any that have an
invisibly small 2nd dorsal fin and a heavily hooked 1st dorsal fin.

Looks like a cetacean, doesn't key out to be any known shark.
Bob****'s full of it - as usual. As to whether it's a porpoise or
dolphin - dunno. Too little detail to tell and it's not my field.
Hell, I have a hard time telling a fin whale from a humpback. Killers
are the only ones I can identify on sight.

I keep hoping to see a blue whale but never have. Nobody has for years
(on our ships). The damned USSR has a lot to answer for, except they
got what they deserved. *******s kept killing blues long after it was
prohibited and just lied about it. Typical.

OT, a leopard seal killed a diver down south recently. Not an
Australian tho, our divers aren't there yet.

Thanks, Skitch
 

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:33:29 +1000, Oz1
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:29:11 GMT, (Peter
Wiley) wrote:


Well, I wasn't really and can't think offhand of something to ask at
the moment either....

You could ask how I'm feeling and I'd tell you...not great, this
sleeping in a chair crap is just not happening for me!

It's a bitch. I remember trying to sleep sitting up when I had broken
ribs. Drugs are the answer. Ignore the doctor, what do they ever know?
Most I've known take Pethidine if they have a hangover :-)

Hey Pete, You switched to a soprano sax..straight or bent?

I've always been straight :-)

Oh yeah sure..all those months at sea.......

Think about the availability of marine mammals in an emergency... and
there's no shortage of penguins.

We have mixed sex scientific staff & crew. Very, very, very
mixed........ some years ago there was a panic, the ship was running
out of beer and condoms with 2 weeks to go before port. Exchange rate
was getting towards 1:1 which I thought showed a distressing lack of
imagination on the part of those who wanted the condoms. The beer was
only the rubbish we export to the USA, and not of fit drinking quality
anyway. Those with taste had adequate stocks of Guiness.

These days the ship is almost 'dry' and PS BS has taken its toll on
other aspects of seaborne life. Not as interesting as it used to be
but still heaps better than sitting in the office arguing over Customs
manifesting.

Thanks, Skitch
 

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:55:34 +1000, Oz1
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:40:56 GMT, (Peter
Wiley) wrote:

Far as I'm aware, there aren't any. Only the pelagic sharks have
homocercal tails. Of those, I can't think of any that have an
invisibly small 2nd dorsal fin and a heavily hooked 1st dorsal fin.

Looks like a cetacean, doesn't key out to be any known shark.
Bob****'s full of it - as usual. As to whether it's a porpoise or
dolphin - dunno. Too little detail to tell and it's not my field.
Hell, I have a hard time telling a fin whale from a humpback. Killers
are the only ones I can identify on sight.

Doesn't take much to get you started does it ;-
Interesting though.

It's raining, I'm bored, I'm avoiding going home and cooking dinner.

I keep hoping to see a blue whale but never have. Nobody has for years
(on our ships). The damned USSR has a lot to answer for, except they
got what they deserved. *******s kept killing blues long after it was
prohibited and just lied about it. Typical.

OT, a leopard seal killed a diver down south recently. Not an
Australian tho, our divers aren't there yet.

Can't remember, are they the beasts we get on the south of Kangaroo
Island? Big ugly agressive suckers they were.

http://www.aad.gov.au/default.asp?casid=1769

Can't remember if their range is as far north as Kangaroo Is. They're
fast, aggressive and dangerous, all right. You'll note that the photo
on the left shows one threatening to bite Bob****'s nose.

BTW, do you know this guy?
http://www.personal.usyd.edu.au/~buz/home.html
done some interesting stuff on isopods and enviro impact

Nope, tho he looks my vintage - old. I'm outa biology these days, been
lobotomised and made management. My reward is to get to discuss cargo
manifests and the like :-(

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a leopard seal killed a diver

I thought seals were rather benign vreatures unless in rut....

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Thanks, Skitch
 

Not the Leopard Seal.... it's a predator..... at 3 meters [10ft] 500kg
[1100lbs] it would prove awesome. Walrus up in the arctic have been known to
sink boats and kill hunters as well. Not all seals are friendly and
cute..... most are very tasty! ;-D

CM

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| a leopard seal killed a diver
|
| I thought seals were rather benign vreatures unless in rut....
|
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Thanks, Skitch
 

Walrus up in the arctic have been known to
sink boats and kill hunters as well.

I was NOWHERE near the arctic!!!

(A gift for Scotty and Donal)


RB

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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:59:01 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote:

Not the Leopard Seal.... it's a predator..... at 3 meters [10ft] 500kg
[1100lbs] it would prove awesome. Walrus up in the arctic have been known to
sink boats and kill hunters as well. Not all seals are friendly and
cute..... most are very tasty! ;-D

How true. Seal steak fried on a shovel blade :-)

Leopard seals are scary because, like crocs, they can, will and do
come out of the water after prey. You need to watch what you're doing
near the edges of icefloes, esp if there are penguins around.

Thanks, Skitch
 

You need to watch what you're doing
near the edges of icefloes, esp if there are penguins around.

Here that, stay away from the edges of the iceflows!!!

RB

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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 23:13:16 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote:

Bob... it's not all that uncommon to go snorkeling along the edge of an ice
pan. I've done it quite a few times. It's really cool under the ice and the
clarity is phenomenal. Walking along the edge of iceflows in the arctic
presents no problem.

The biggest piece of ice Bob's seen is in a glass. Oh wait, I forgot -
he lives in a crap climate. And a crap environment. The biggest piece
of clean ice he's seen is in a glass.

Whereas you & I know first-hand what the endless delicate shades of
blue there are to see, looking at white ice disappearing into indigo
water, and the delicate light effects from the play of sunlight
through pressure ridges, snow over clear ice, and the bands of green
where glacial ice has partially melted and refrozen into sea ice.
We've seen the ice-blink on the horizon, and the water sky.

Bob will never be able to walk on the edge of a floe. He'll never see
an iceberg carving its way through an endless plateau of sea ice.
He'll never be able to sit and talk with penguins. He'll never see
seals playing in the tide cracks and Adelie penguins swarrking at you
when you turn their floe over. He'll never have the pleasure of
drilling cores in icefloes with half a dozen Emperor penguins
supervising your every move. He'll learn what little he knows from
watching Discovery Channel, paying other people to guide him about,
and living a second-hand life.

And he deserves it.

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
| You need to watch what you're doing
| near the edges of icefloes, esp if there are penguins around.
|
| Here that, stay away from the edges of the iceflows!!!
|
| RB

Thanks, Skitch
 

The biggest piece of ice Bob's seen is in a glass. Oh wait, I forgot -
he lives in a crap climate. And a crap environment. The biggest piece
of clean ice he's seen is in a glass.

Gosh, that's quite a sense of humor you have there!
Too bad Tracy Ulman is off the air.

Bwahahahahaha

RB

Thanks, Skitch
 

He'll never be able to sit and talk with penguins.

I've handled Emperor penguins and more exotic Animals than you'll ever manage.


RB

Thanks, Skitch
 

He'll learn what little he knows from
watching Discovery Channel, paying other people to guide him about,
and living a second-hand life.

Ever climb down into a cave on a volcanic Island in search of a trap door
spider that lives in bat guano?
I have.
Ever handle a just born pair of baby gorillas?
I have.
Ever track through a rain forrest in Trinidad's Centipede island in search of a
giant foot long centipede?
I have....and bloody hell, we found two!

Forget it, Pete. By the time I was 20 I'd been on 11 NY Zoological Society
expeditions through the Museum of Natural History where my father worked for 25
years as a Naturalist.
You lose again!

RB

Thanks, Skitch
 

I've handled Emperor penguins and more exotic Animals than you'll ever manage.


??????? Kinky........
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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Thanks, Skitch
 

I've handled Emperor penguins and more exotic Animals than you'll ever manage.


??????? Kinky........

Nope. Not even friendly.

RB

Thanks, Skitch
 

That's nothing. He also transported dolphins over state lines for immoral porpoises!


"katysails" wrote in message
...


I've handled Emperor penguins and more exotic Animals than you'll ever manage.


??????? Kinky........
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Thanks, Skitch
 

That's nothing. He also transported dolphins over state lines for immoral
porpoises!

Nahhh. That was just a fluke. People Magazine plans to run a pectorial on the
whole thing.

RB

Thanks, Skitch
 

What is a pectorial? Is that a gay magazine thing?

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
That's nothing. He also transported dolphins over state lines for immoral
porpoises!

Nahhh. That was just a fluke. People Magazine plans to run a pectorial on
the
whole thing.

RB