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Jeff Morris July 21st 03 07:04 PM

N.Y. - L.I.S. - Ptown: "Best" way ??
 
What kind of boat do you have? how much time?


wrote in message ...

From those who have done it, assuming that an exact schedule is not
per se critical, that one has a preference for over-night mooring or
even a slip rather than for anchoring, what is the arguably "best"
(or, anyway, comfortable/realistic) route(s) from N.Y. to
Provincetown, Mass., including good and interesting good stop-overs,
sights, etc.? Thanks.




[email protected] July 22nd 03 12:09 AM

N.Y. - L.I.S. - Ptown: "Best" way ??
 
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, "Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom
wrote:

What kind of boat do you have? how much time?


A more than adequately sizeable and equipped sailboat and a
comparatively very flexible time schedule, although we also want to
get to Provincetown reasonably promptly. We also would prefer to
sail as much as and motor as little as practicable, not have more than
ten-to-twelve hour days underway, avoid sailing/motoring at night, and
(as noted) probably prefer to stay overnight on established moorings
or marinas. Thanks.


wrote in message ...

From those who have done it, assuming that an exact schedule is not
per se critical, that one has a preference for over-night mooring or
even a slip rather than for anchoring, what is the arguably "best"
(or, anyway, comfortable/realistic) route(s) from N.Y. to
Provincetown, Mass., including good and interesting good stop-overs,
sights, etc.? Thanks.





[email protected] July 22nd 03 12:13 AM

N.Y. - L.I.S. - Ptown: "Best" way ??
 


P.S. -

This is not a "troll" and, instead, we really are serious about
soliciting knowledgeable input/advice for a trip we actually intend to
begin soon.

Thanks.



Jeff Morris July 22nd 03 12:32 AM

N.Y. - L.I.S. - Ptown: "Best" way ??
 
Your only reasonable route is NE up Long Island Sound, past Block Island, up Buzzard's
Bay, through the Cape Cod Canal and over to P'town. The outside routes (outside Long
Island, outside Cape Cod) are probably far more tedious that you want.

Along the route there are numerous places to stay - there are marinas all the way, so it
depends on what type of place you enjoy. You can also make minor detours and see
Narraganset Sound, or the Vineyard. Your best bet is to get the Embassy guides.

BTW, your options thin out toward the end of the trip. You may have to wait in Onset for
a fair tide in the Canal. Also, in P'town, there is really only one marina, which also
controls most of the moorings. They fill up on the weekends, so you need a reservation.

This trip log includes two transits of the area, first in Aug 2000, then again in July
2001. It might give you some ideas.
http://www.sv-loki.com/The_Trip/Trip_Log/trip_log.html

-jeff

wrote in message ...
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, "Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom
wrote:

What kind of boat do you have? how much time?


A more than adequately sizeable and equipped sailboat and a
comparatively very flexible time schedule, although we also want to
get to Provincetown reasonably promptly. We also would prefer to
sail as much as and motor as little as practicable, not have more than
ten-to-twelve hour days underway, avoid sailing/motoring at night, and
(as noted) probably prefer to stay overnight on established moorings
or marinas. Thanks.


wrote in message ...

From those who have done it, assuming that an exact schedule is not
per se critical, that one has a preference for over-night mooring or
even a slip rather than for anchoring, what is the arguably "best"
(or, anyway, comfortable/realistic) route(s) from N.Y. to
Provincetown, Mass., including good and interesting good stop-overs,
sights, etc.? Thanks.







Jeff Morris July 22nd 03 12:49 AM

N.Y. - L.I.S. - Ptown: "Best" way ??
 
And while you're at it, include your bank account numbers, so we can send you some money!
That's how we greet strangers around here!

BTW, unless your boat is a Mac 26X, its up to the voyage.


wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 23:13:40 GMT, wrote:



P.S. -

This is not a "troll" and, instead, we really are serious about
soliciting knowledgeable input/advice for a trip we actually intend to
begin soon.


Then give real specifics about exactly what boat and exactly how much time.

BB




CANDChelp July 22nd 03 01:42 AM

N.Y. - L.I.S. - Ptown: "Best" way ??
 
BTW, unless your boat is a Mac 26X, its up to the voyage.

What if it's a Beneteau?


RB

Jeff Morris July 22nd 03 01:58 AM

N.Y. - L.I.S. - Ptown: "Best" way ??
 
"CANDChelp" wrote in message
BTW, unless your boat is a Mac 26X, its up to the voyage.

What if it's a Beneteau?


Only if its tricked out. I'd advise replacing the tracks before leaving.



Jeff Morris July 22nd 03 02:13 AM

N.Y. - L.I.S. - Ptown: "Best" way ??
 
Your didn't mention - do you want to get back, or are you delivering a boat to P'town? Be
aware that the prevailing wind is SW, so the trip out is likely downwind, while the trip
back could be on the nose. You should be familiar with the currents - in particular, if
your coming back through the Canal riding a nice current, then hit a strong SW wind in
Buzzard's Bay, you'll have serious surprise! This is one of those situations where I
wouldn't trust a marginal boat. Many boats duck into Onset and wait for slack. The same
can happen going the other way if there's a NE when you exit the Canal and head to
P'town - you can get 10 foot standing waves with no option other than blasting through -
by the time you see the waves its too late to turn into Sandwich.

Oh, and the stretch around Block Island is completely open to the ocean, so its often
sloppy, especially if a tropical storm as gone by.

BTW, if you're going in the middle of August we may cross paths.
--
-jeff www.sv-loki.com
"The sea was angry that day, my friend. Like an old man trying to send back soup at the
deli."





wrote in message ...
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, "Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom
wrote:

What kind of boat do you have? how much time?


A more than adequately sizeable and equipped sailboat and a
comparatively very flexible time schedule, although we also want to
get to Provincetown reasonably promptly. We also would prefer to
sail as much as and motor as little as practicable, not have more than
ten-to-twelve hour days underway, avoid sailing/motoring at night, and
(as noted) probably prefer to stay overnight on established moorings
or marinas. Thanks.


wrote in message ...

From those who have done it, assuming that an exact schedule is not
per se critical, that one has a preference for over-night mooring or
even a slip rather than for anchoring, what is the arguably "best"
(or, anyway, comfortable/realistic) route(s) from N.Y. to
Provincetown, Mass., including good and interesting good stop-overs,
sights, etc.? Thanks.







[email protected] July 22nd 03 05:54 AM

N.Y. - L.I.S. - Ptown: "Best" way ??
 
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 23:13:40 GMT,
wrote:

[ would welcome knowledteable/experienced-based
advice re. N.Y.-to-Ptown sailing ]


Then give real specifics about exactly what boat and exactly how much time.

BB


You're just fencing with me. I've already said -- and a respondent
who is knowledgeable and serious and actually willing to be helpful
will assume -- that it is more than just adequate in size/equipment
and performance capabilities for the trip and that the time-frame is
amply flexible (which, as I've also already made plain, is one of the
key reasons we were soliciting input about suggested
route(s)/stop-overs/duration/etc.).


Capt. Mooron July 22nd 03 12:36 PM

N.Y. - L.I.S. - Ptown: "Best" way ??
 
Sheesh BB... take this stuff to alt disasters. You're sounding way too
stressed dude! The joy is in conning the facts from the fish despite his
best efforts. You can't be posting here and not expect trolls... cripes
already there are a dozen lures whipping by me every hour.

Ease up..... it almost looks like the Bobsprit has you unhinged a bit.

Look.. it's obvious this "seaSon" has a vessel he's not at all proud of or
he would have mentioned it. I'm assuming a cheapo Hunter or a Concrete
Coffin..... either way it's not important. He probably has to have an
extremely flexible time table and "we" as the folks he turns to for
assistance should be able to diagnose his situation on very little
information. He will need the places that offer haul out facilities and have
salvage company coverage.... this is what we should have foreseen from a
dissection of his post. Lets use our knowledge and suggest ports of call
that are 3 hours apart... a good day sail for a floating disaster. Let's try
and avoid the "expensive" or "upper end" marinas since he probably is short
on funds as well.

Can't we all work together to make sailing fun for everyone on any budget?

CM


wrote in message

| Then go **** yourself. All you can get with the sketchy information you
gave is
| a sketchy answer that really won't help you. Nobody is fencing with you. I
| thought you were actually trying to plan a cruise. Turns out you are just
| trolling.
|
| BB



Capt. Mooron July 22nd 03 03:59 PM

N.Y. - L.I.S. - Ptown: "Best" way ??
 
How can you stand before the court and make such unsubstantiated
accusations.... :-D

CM

"anonymous" wrote in message
...
| On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 06:05:00 -0400, said:
|
| Turns out you are just
| trolling.
|
| I suspect he has seen the antics of various members of the group, and
isn't
| interested in participating in those antics. Good judgement, I'd say.




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