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Bobsprit July 13th 03 01:42 AM

Damn!!!!
 
Damn, MY C&C is quick!!!! Or should I say...My WIFE'S C&C is quick??!!!
Good strong gusty day with just the two of us aboard. Most of my friends were
out...a Ericson 35, Catalina 34, J30, J24...and plenty of other boats charging
around the chop. Only the J30 was faster, but not by much. Of course, with
small sailboats, "not by much" is what counts.
Off the wind we touched 11 knots and wasn't we weren't ideally trimmed. My
friend's J30 touched 12, but he was having a far rougher ride for that extra
knot. We switched over to the 100% just to see what's what and WOW! It's a new
jib and the boat pointed like the devil. Hull speed or better and far better
control. We never reefed the main, though we should have. I left the 100% up
for tomorrow.
Downwind, feeling like a surfer, I saw a boat gaining on me steadily. He caught
up quick...A C&C 34+ or XL. He passed me and the J30 and looked comfortable
doing it. After a while, my friend with the J30 came aboard to have a go. He
felt the C&C was "great" offering real cruising comfort and good speed. He felt
feedback on the wheel was "amazing." He was impressed overall, but hated the
mid-boom sheeting. He said he'd spend 5-700 bucks and change it. He called the
C&C a "sailors' boat." No doubt that's ammo for the group!
We decided to come home....great fight on HBO tonight and no cable aboard.
Tomorrow looks like another great sailing day! Pics coming soon!

Hope you all got out there today....

RB

SAIL LOCO July 13th 03 02:47 AM

Damn!!!!
 
Hey Boob**** if that 165 PHRF rated tub was capable of 11 kts on a 10-15 kt day
with no chute up it would be the most popular PHRF race boat of all time. I'd
love to have an 11kt PHRF C boat. Wow! What a sleeper!
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Bobsprit July 13th 03 02:57 AM

Damn!!!!
 
I used to crew on a top J30 and the only time we went over 10 was
on a 25kt day with the chute up.

He had the boat well off the Jersey shore and scored 14 knots in heavy swells a
few years back. He's been racing for 20 years and knows how to make boats do
near-impossible things.
It was gusting to 30 today (according to our meters). I caught a gust to 20
still in the slip.
It doesn't surprise me that you never saw 10+ on a J30....I've seen it many
times downwind, but that was with sailors like myself aboard.


RB

Bobsprit July 13th 03 02:59 AM

Damn!!!!
 
Hey Boob**** if that 165 PHRF rated tub was capable of 11 kts on a 10-15 kt day
with no chute up it would be the most popular PHRF race boat of all time.

You might want to hunt around those ratings....any idea of why the boat is
rated as low as 150 in some areas? Usually rated around 155-158.
Meanwhile....if you can't get a J30 to touch 10 knots in 30 knot gusts, I need
all I need to know about your sailing ability!!!

RB

Bobsprit July 13th 03 03:02 AM

Damn!!!!
 
Off the wind we touched 11 knots and wasn't we weren't ideally trimmed.

And then you woke up and changed the sheets.

Jeff, if you think a J30 or C&C 32 can't best 10 knots in 25-30 knots, I'd be
happy to take you for a sail. Hell, we made 9 knots in the Catalina 27 downwind
a few times!

I hope you're not a HSJ, Jeff.

RB

SAIL LOCO July 13th 03 04:42 AM

Damn!!!!
 
,Jeff, if you think a J30 or C&C 32 can't best 10 knots in 25-30 knots,.

Where in N.Y was it blowing 25-30 today?


S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

SAIL LOCO July 13th 03 04:43 AM

Damn!!!!
 
Hell, we made 9 knots in the Catalina 27 downwind a few times!

Yea, and I did 13 on my Merit 22 one Wednesday night. BUT THAT WAS WITH A
CHUTE UP. You didn't have a chute up today did you Boobie?
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Bobsprit July 13th 03 06:32 AM

Damn!!!!
 
,Jeff, if you think a J30 or C&C 32 can't best 10 knots in 25-30 knots,.

Where in N.Y was it blowing 25-30 today?

On the LIS, especially between hart island and Execution Rock, where it was
knocking a lot of boats around. Closer to Oyster bay it fell off. There was
even stronger air near the bridges.

RB

Thomas Stewart July 13th 03 06:38 AM

Damn!!!!
 
Do you mean a boat full of Liars like yourself?


Pony Express July 13th 03 11:14 AM

Damn!!!!
 
Sounds like you had a nice dream. Now try and go sailing.
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Damn, MY C&C is quick!!!! Or should I say...My WIFE'S C&C is quick??!!!
Good strong gusty day with just the two of us aboard. Most of my friends

were
out...a Ericson 35, Catalina 34, J30, J24...and plenty of other boats

charging
around the chop. Only the J30 was faster, but not by much. Of course, with
small sailboats, "not by much" is what counts.
Off the wind we touched 11 knots and wasn't we weren't ideally trimmed. My
friend's J30 touched 12, but he was having a far rougher ride for that

extra
knot. We switched over to the 100% just to see what's what and WOW! It's a

new
jib and the boat pointed like the devil. Hull speed or better and far

better
control. We never reefed the main, though we should have. I left the 100%

up
for tomorrow.
Downwind, feeling like a surfer, I saw a boat gaining on me steadily. He

caught
up quick...A C&C 34+ or XL. He passed me and the J30 and looked

comfortable
doing it. After a while, my friend with the J30 came aboard to have a go.

He
felt the C&C was "great" offering real cruising comfort and good speed. He

felt
feedback on the wheel was "amazing." He was impressed overall, but hated

the
mid-boom sheeting. He said he'd spend 5-700 bucks and change it. He called

the
C&C a "sailors' boat." No doubt that's ammo for the group!
We decided to come home....great fight on HBO tonight and no cable aboard.
Tomorrow looks like another great sailing day! Pics coming soon!

Hope you all got out there today....

RB



Bobsprit July 13th 03 01:15 PM

Damn!!!!
 
Another in a long series of lies and exaggerations!

You're right. My friend didn't really hate the mid-boom sheeting. He just felt
that it didn't invite constant tweaking and certainly promoted poor trim for
singlehanding.

RB

Pony Express July 13th 03 01:43 PM

Damn!!!!
 
Poor trim. That's what bob's sailing is all about.
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Another in a long series of lies and exaggerations!

You're right. My friend didn't really hate the mid-boom sheeting. He just

felt
that it didn't invite constant tweaking and certainly promoted poor trim

for
singlehanding.

RB



Horvath July 13th 03 01:50 PM

Damn!!!!
 
On 13 Jul 2003 02:02:11 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this
crap:

Off the wind we touched 11 knots and wasn't we weren't ideally trimmed.


And then you woke up and changed the sheets.

Jeff, if you think a J30 or C&C 32 can't best 10 knots in 25-30 knots, I'd be
happy to take you for a sail. Hell, we made 9 knots in the Catalina 27 downwind
a few times!


I think you need to get your knotmeter fixed. What does it read when
you're sitting at the dock? 7kts?




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Beers!

Bobsprit July 13th 03 02:05 PM

Damn!!!!
 
I think you need to get your knotmeter fixed. What does it read when
you're sitting at the dock? 7kts?

Knotmeter showed better than 12 knots a few times. GPS fluxuated between 9 and
10.5.

RB

Scott Vernon July 13th 03 05:38 PM

Damn!!!!
 
he meant the 'friend' part.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Another in a long series of lies and exaggerations!

You're right. My friend didn't really hate the mid-boom sheeting. He just

felt
that it didn't invite constant tweaking and certainly promoted poor trim

for
singlehanding.

RB




Scott Vernon July 13th 03 05:42 PM

Damn!!!!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote ...
I think you need to get your knotmeter fixed. What does it read when
you're sitting at the dock? 7kts?

Knotmeter showed better than 12 knots a few times in our slip.
GPS fluxuated between 9 and 10.5 in the matrix.

RB




SAIL LOCO July 14th 03 02:15 AM

Damn!!!!
 
You're right. My friend didn't really hate the mid-boom sheeting. He just
felt
that it didn't invite constant tweaking and certainly promoted poor trim for
singlehanding...

C&C has always offered the option of having the traveler installed on the
bridge deck instead of the coach roof for real sailors.


S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Bobsprit July 15th 03 11:15 AM

Damn!!!!
 
And I was only crewing on a boat that always finished in the top 3 usually 1st
in the toughest J30 fleet in the Country.

Yeah, suuuurrre you were. But you only saw 10 knots once!

Bwahahahahahhhaha!

RB

Capt. Mooron July 15th 03 11:03 PM

Damn!!!!
 
Sounds like he is implying that you are a liar to me.......


CM

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
| Yeah, suuuurrre you were.
|
| Excuse me .... are you saying I make this stuff up?
| S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
| Trains are a winter sport




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