"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
It is not up to me to validate my claim. It is encumbent upon
you to disprove it. That is the way debate works. If you
cannot disprove my claim then you lose. It's as simple
as that.


A comment like that is so stupid it pretty much proves that you're just making everything
up.

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message ...
A comment like that is so stupid it pretty much proves that you're just making everything
up.

And, your above comment proves you are uneducated and a spoiled
brat who never grew up or learned how things work.

Have you ever seen the 'Moby Duck' busses in Salem Harbor? It looked like a
tour boat going by, then it turned right and drove up the ramp we were at.
Kinda funny.

Scotty
http://www.mobyduck.com/

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
Nonsense - its true that the volume of a cat allows you to think of adding
so much that it
is overloaded, but the "cruising necessities" are easily handled. My
boat, for instance,
is one that allegedly suffers from this problem, especially since I have
the twin diesel
option, but it really means that I shouldn't also get gensets and A/C.
Even fully loaded
for a one year trip we easily outsailed most monohulls.

Last weekend we sailed 30 miles up the coast to Salem Bay. The wind was
10 to 12 knots,
not the best for a slightly undersailed cat, but we still did 5.5 to 7
knots, passing the
monohulls like they were standing still. Of the boats that left Boston
with us, none were
in sight when we got to Marblehead. I would admit that when we got to
M'head there were
several racing boats that were prepping for the Halifax race that had no
trouble keeping
up. (BTW, all of the multihulls in the race finished near the front - but
these aren't
cruising boats.)



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
of a Cat, but the advantages offered in space and comfort are huge,
especially
for liveaboards who don't want to camp-out on a sub 40 foot mono.


You cannot load a catamaran down with all the necessary cruising
amenities and have it perform as well as a monohull, let alone be
considered fast. If space and comfort your wont then stick with
that flat in the city. You cannot take a flat to sea and expect it
to sail.

A comment like that is so stupid it pretty much proves that you're just
making everything

It's a troll, of course. The fact is that modern cats are pretty amazing boats,
combining safety speed and comfort...at a high price.
The price is what Neal can't handle. No intelligent human would be subjecting
himself to the squaller of a 27 foot boat if he could manage something better.

RB

We got the same thing up here... they call it the Harbour Hopper...

http://www.harbourhopper.com/

Ours is bigger..... Nyah!

CM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
| Have you ever seen the 'Moby Duck' busses in Salem Harbor? It looked like
a
| tour boat going by, then it turned right and drove up the ramp we were
at.
| Kinda funny.
|
| Scotty
| http://www.mobyduck.com/
|
| "Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
| ...
| Nonsense - its true that the volume of a cat allows you to think of
adding
| so much that it
| is overloaded, but the "cruising necessities" are easily handled. My
| boat, for instance,
| is one that allegedly suffers from this problem, especially since I have
| the twin diesel
| option, but it really means that I shouldn't also get gensets and A/C.
| Even fully loaded
| for a one year trip we easily outsailed most monohulls.
|
| Last weekend we sailed 30 miles up the coast to Salem Bay. The wind was
| 10 to 12 knots,
| not the best for a slightly undersailed cat, but we still did 5.5 to 7
| knots, passing the
| monohulls like they were standing still. Of the boats that left Boston
| with us, none were
| in sight when we got to Marblehead. I would admit that when we got to
| M'head there were
| several racing boats that were prepping for the Halifax race that had no
| trouble keeping
| up. (BTW, all of the multihulls in the race finished near the front -
but
| these aren't
| cruising boats.)
|
|
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| of a Cat, but the advantages offered in space and comfort are huge,
| especially
| for liveaboards who don't want to camp-out on a sub 40 foot mono.
|
|
| You cannot load a catamaran down with all the necessary cruising
| amenities and have it perform as well as a monohull, let alone be
| considered fast. If space and comfort your wont then stick with
| that flat in the city. You cannot take a flat to sea and expect it
| to sail.
|
|
|
|
|
|

The "Duck" thing started in Boston - it was financed by the same guy that did Boston
Chicken. I took my daughter out a few years ago - her eyes got *very* large when we drove
right into the river!


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Have you ever seen the 'Moby Duck' busses in Salem Harbor? It looked like a
tour boat going by, then it turned right and drove up the ramp we were at.
Kinda funny.

Scotty
http://www.mobyduck.com/

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
Nonsense - its true that the volume of a cat allows you to think of adding
so much that it
is overloaded, but the "cruising necessities" are easily handled. My
boat, for instance,
is one that allegedly suffers from this problem, especially since I have
the twin diesel
option, but it really means that I shouldn't also get gensets and A/C.
Even fully loaded
for a one year trip we easily outsailed most monohulls.

Last weekend we sailed 30 miles up the coast to Salem Bay. The wind was
10 to 12 knots,
not the best for a slightly undersailed cat, but we still did 5.5 to 7
knots, passing the
monohulls like they were standing still. Of the boats that left Boston
with us, none were
in sight when we got to Marblehead. I would admit that when we got to
M'head there were
several racing boats that were prepping for the Halifax race that had no
trouble keeping
up. (BTW, all of the multihulls in the race finished near the front - but
these aren't
cruising boats.)



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
of a Cat, but the advantages offered in space and comfort are huge,
especially
for liveaboards who don't want to camp-out on a sub 40 foot mono.


You cannot load a catamaran down with all the necessary cruising
amenities and have it perform as well as a monohull, let alone be
considered fast. If space and comfort your wont then stick with
that flat in the city. You cannot take a flat to sea and expect it
to sail.

My cat just freaked from the sound on that page!

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
We got the same thing up here... they call it the Harbour Hopper...

http://www.harbourhopper.com/

Ours is bigger..... Nyah!

CM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
| Have you ever seen the 'Moby Duck' busses in Salem Harbor? It looked like
a
| tour boat going by, then it turned right and drove up the ramp we were
at.
| Kinda funny.
|
| Scotty
| http://www.mobyduck.com/
|
| "Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
| ...
| Nonsense - its true that the volume of a cat allows you to think of
adding
| so much that it
| is overloaded, but the "cruising necessities" are easily handled. My
| boat, for instance,
| is one that allegedly suffers from this problem, especially since I have
| the twin diesel
| option, but it really means that I shouldn't also get gensets and A/C.
| Even fully loaded
| for a one year trip we easily outsailed most monohulls.
|
| Last weekend we sailed 30 miles up the coast to Salem Bay. The wind was
| 10 to 12 knots,
| not the best for a slightly undersailed cat, but we still did 5.5 to 7
| knots, passing the
| monohulls like they were standing still. Of the boats that left Boston
| with us, none were
| in sight when we got to Marblehead. I would admit that when we got to
| M'head there were
| several racing boats that were prepping for the Halifax race that had no
| trouble keeping
| up. (BTW, all of the multihulls in the race finished near the front -
but
| these aren't
| cruising boats.)
|
|
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| of a Cat, but the advantages offered in space and comfort are huge,
| especially
| for liveaboards who don't want to camp-out on a sub 40 foot mono.
|
|
| You cannot load a catamaran down with all the necessary cruising
| amenities and have it perform as well as a monohull, let alone be
| considered fast. If space and comfort your wont then stick with
| that flat in the city. You cannot take a flat to sea and expect it
| to sail.
|
|
|
|
|
|

It really liked like a fun way to tour the area, especially for the kids. I
understand they have one in Kanaduh, but it had to be much bigger to haul
their bloated butts around.
--
Scott Vernon
Plowville PA __/)__/)__


"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
The "Duck" thing started in Boston - it was financed by the same guy that
did Boston
Chicken. I took my daughter out a few years ago - her eyes got *very*
large when we drove
right into the river!


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Have you ever seen the 'Moby Duck' busses in Salem Harbor? It looked
like a
tour boat going by, then it turned right and drove up the ramp we were
at.
Kinda funny.

Scotty
http://www.mobyduck.com/

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
Nonsense - its true that the volume of a cat allows you to think of
adding
so much that it
is overloaded, but the "cruising necessities" are easily handled. My
boat, for instance,
is one that allegedly suffers from this problem, especially since I
have
the twin diesel
option, but it really means that I shouldn't also get gensets and A/C.
Even fully loaded
for a one year trip we easily outsailed most monohulls.

Last weekend we sailed 30 miles up the coast to Salem Bay. The wind
was
10 to 12 knots,
not the best for a slightly undersailed cat, but we still did 5.5 to 7
knots, passing the
monohulls like they were standing still. Of the boats that left
Boston
with us, none were
in sight when we got to Marblehead. I would admit that when we got to
M'head there were
several racing boats that were prepping for the Halifax race that had
no
trouble keeping
up. (BTW, all of the multihulls in the race finished near the front -
but
these aren't
cruising boats.)



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
of a Cat, but the advantages offered in space and comfort are
huge,
especially
for liveaboards who don't want to camp-out on a sub 40 foot mono.


You cannot load a catamaran down with all the necessary cruising
amenities and have it perform as well as a monohull, let alone be
considered fast. If space and comfort your wont then stick with
that flat in the city. You cannot take a flat to sea and expect it
to sail.

Is it a scared cat....??

CM

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message

| My cat just freaked from the sound on that page!

Yup... considering it usually is full of American Tourists!!!

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
| It really liked like a fun way to tour the area, especially for the kids.
I
| understand they have one in Kanaduh, but it had to be much bigger to haul
| their bloated butts around.