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Gilligan July 4th 03 04:51 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
Tasman Sea Produces Freaky Species
CBC ^ | 30 Jun 2003 | Staff



SYDNEY - Hundreds of new underwater species, including sharks and a giant
sea spider the size of a dinner plate, have been discovered by scientists in
the Tasman Sea between Australia and New Zealand.

The month-long expedition collected and photographed specimens at depths of
more than two kilometres.

The voyage around Lord Howe and Norfolk Islands was the most complex survey
ever conducted in Australian waters.

Researchers from Australia and New Zealand say the expedition has made some
extraordinary discoveries.

One creature, the fangtooth, has teeth longer than its head. To avoid
piercing the fish's brain when it shuts its mouth, the teeth fit into
opposing eye sockets.

Then there's a wonky-eyed jewel squid - its left eye is much larger than the
right. Researchers believe the big eye looks out for food, while the small
one watches for predators.

These new life forms have adapted to the harsh conditions beneath the ocean
where water pressure is hundreds of times greater than at the surface.

In total, 500 species of fish and 1,300 types of invertebrates were
discovered, including deep-sea sponges and a prickly shark.

It's expected to take more than a year to classify them all.

The spiders recovered from the icy depths are not related to those found on
land. Some have bodies so tiny that their internal organs have been pushed
down inside their hollow legs.

A giant fossilized tooth of an extinct shark known as a megalodon was also
found, possibly lying undisturbed on the ocean floor for millions of years.






Flying Tadpole July 4th 03 05:02 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
Just goes to show what happens to the neighbourhood pond when
you've got an Oz1 on on side and an MC on the other...

FT

Gilligan wrote:

Tasman Sea Produces Freaky Species
CBC ^ | 30 Jun 2003 | Staff

SYDNEY - Hundreds of new underwater species, including sharks and a giant
sea spider the size of a dinner plate, have been discovered by scientists in
the Tasman Sea between Australia and New Zealand.
snip

One creature, the fangtooth, has teeth longer than its head. To avoid
piercing the fish's brain when it shuts its mouth, the teeth fit into
opposing eye sockets.

Then there's a wonky-eyed jewel squid - its left eye is much larger than the
right. Researchers believe the big eye looks out for food, while the small
one watches for predators.



Capt. Mooron July 4th 03 10:47 AM

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Cue the theme from "Jaws"........

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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|
| "Gilligan" wrote
|
| and a prickly shark.
|
| known as 'Mooronuis Captainis'.
|
|
|
|
|
|



katysails July 4th 03 03:00 PM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
I have a plausible explanantion for said appearances: With the current so-called global warming, chunks of Antartica are
thawing where these animals, through a mystery of nature, have been cryo-preserved over the ages and are thawing out. They are
not new...they are old....(and if BS steals my plot for a B movie, I'll sue him...you have all witnessed that this is
exclusively MY idea)

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit.
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Scott Vernon July 4th 03 10:55 PM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
another? how many have you watched today?

Scotty


"Oz1" wrote

God not another porno.





Scott Vernon July 4th 03 10:55 PM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
One day the Dolphins will rule this world, again.

SV

"Oz1" wrote in message
...
Gilly at the moment off the coast there's tonnes of squid and occy
floating around dead.
Apparently something has brought them inshore and the dolphins are
feeding on their heads and leaving the rest.


On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 03:51:53 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote:

Tasman Sea Produces Freaky Species
CBC ^ | 30 Jun 2003 | Staff



SYDNEY - Hundreds of new underwater species, including sharks and a giant
sea spider the size of a dinner plate, have been discovered by scientists

in
the Tasman Sea between Australia and New Zealand.

The month-long expedition collected and photographed specimens at depths

of
more than two kilometres.

The voyage around Lord Howe and Norfolk Islands was the most complex

survey
ever conducted in Australian waters.

Researchers from Australia and New Zealand say the expedition has made

some
extraordinary discoveries.

One creature, the fangtooth, has teeth longer than its head. To avoid
piercing the fish's brain when it shuts its mouth, the teeth fit into
opposing eye sockets.

Then there's a wonky-eyed jewel squid - its left eye is much larger than

the
right. Researchers believe the big eye looks out for food, while the

small
one watches for predators.

These new life forms have adapted to the harsh conditions beneath the

ocean
where water pressure is hundreds of times greater than at the surface.

In total, 500 species of fish and 1,300 types of invertebrates were
discovered, including deep-sea sponges and a prickly shark.

It's expected to take more than a year to classify them all.

The spiders recovered from the icy depths are not related to those found

on
land. Some have bodies so tiny that their internal organs have been

pushed
down inside their hollow legs.

A giant fossilized tooth of an extinct shark known as a megalodon was

also
found, possibly lying undisturbed on the ocean floor for millions of

years.







Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Scott Vernon July 4th 03 11:12 PM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
Ha ha, good one Per, too bad it took you 2 months to come up with something.

Happy Independence Day, stick a firecracker up your butt, light it, and sing
the Star Spangled Banner!

Scotty

"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
Scott Vernon wrote:
another? how many have watched me today?

Scotty


"Oz1" wrote

God not another porno.







Per Elmsäter July 4th 03 11:41 PM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
You're too late as always. It's already July 5 here.

Scott Vernon wrote:
Ha ha, good one Per, too bad it took you 2 months to come up with
something.

Happy Independence Day, stick a firecracker up your butt, light it,
and sing the Star Spangled Banner!

Scotty

"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
Scott Vernon wrote:
another? how many have watched me today?

Scotty


"Oz1" wrote

God not another porno.


--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.



Capt. Mooron July 4th 03 11:56 PM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
Per.... how's it goin' eh? What've you been up to? Good to see you deemed
it an appropriate time to make a visit.

CM


"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
| Scott Vernon wrote:
| another? how many have watched me today?
|
| Scotty
|
|
| "Oz1" wrote
|
| God not another porno.
|
|
|



Pony Express July 5th 03 12:19 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
Fix your calendar. Don't you know that the world revolves around Americans?
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
You're too late as always. It's already July 5 here.

Scott Vernon wrote:
Ha ha, good one Per, too bad it took you 2 months to come up with
something.

Happy Independence Day, stick a firecracker up your butt, light it,
and sing the Star Spangled Banner!

Scotty

"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
Scott Vernon wrote:
another? how many have watched me today?

Scotty


"Oz1" wrote

God not another porno.


--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.




Per Elmsäter July 5th 03 12:23 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
Pony Express wrote:
Fix your calendar. Don't you know that the world revolves around
Americans?


Hey, Bill Gates is American isn't he? Well he's the one that fixed my
calendar!
--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.



Per Elmsäter July 5th 03 12:27 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
How I love a bad loser ;)

Pony Express wrote:
Hey, don't try to bring logic and reasoning into this NG. It is
neither welcomed nor tolerated.

"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
Pony Express wrote:
Fix your calendar. Don't you know that the world revolves around
Americans?


Hey, Bill Gates is American isn't he? Well he's the one that fixed my
calendar!
--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.


--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.



Pony Express July 5th 03 12:30 AM

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First Donal says he *likes* bob. And now you?
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
How I love a bad loser ;)

Pony Express wrote:
Hey, don't try to bring logic and reasoning into this NG. It is
neither welcomed nor tolerated.

"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
Pony Express wrote:
Fix your calendar. Don't you know that the world revolves around
Americans?

Hey, Bill Gates is American isn't he? Well he's the one that fixed my
calendar!
--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.


--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.




Per Elmsäter July 5th 03 12:42 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
Good one ;)
Yes there has always been something special about boobsy. So afraid of
sailing and yet wanting so much to show us how much he loves it and how
competent he is. Did you see the thread where he was actually trying to make
us believe he'd been sailing a spinnacker?? What a troll that was.

Pony Express wrote:
First Donal says he *likes* bob. And now you?

"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
How I love a bad loser ;)

Pony Express wrote:
Hey, don't try to bring logic and reasoning into this NG. It is
neither welcomed nor tolerated.

"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
Pony Express wrote:
Fix your calendar. Don't you know that the world revolves around
Americans?

Hey, Bill Gates is American isn't he? Well he's the one that fixed
my calendar!
--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.


--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.


--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.



Scout July 5th 03 12:55 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
CM,
I'm 47 too. It seems every year I get a fresh batch of 17-18 year old
students who want very much to whoop me in arm wrestling. I work out
faithfully; but still it's getting tougher and tougher to beat them with
each passing year. God help me if one of the boys challenges me.
Scout

"Capt. Mooron" wrote
Thank the gods I'm only 47.... I'd have a harder time doing it if I was

74!! ;-)



Pony Express July 5th 03 12:58 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
Sorry, I didn't read that post. I try to avoid threads where bob talks
about sailing.
Methinks you're lurking a little more than you'd like to admit.
--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
Good one ;)
Yes there has always been something special about boobsy. So afraid of
sailing and yet wanting so much to show us how much he loves it and how
competent he is. Did you see the thread where he was actually trying to

make
us believe he'd been sailing a spinnacker?? What a troll that was.

Pony Express wrote:
First Donal says he *likes* bob. And now you?

"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
How I love a bad loser ;)

Pony Express wrote:
Hey, don't try to bring logic and reasoning into this NG. It is
neither welcomed nor tolerated.

"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
Pony Express wrote:
Fix your calendar. Don't you know that the world revolves around
Americans?

Hey, Bill Gates is American isn't he? Well he's the one that fixed
my calendar!
--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.


--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.




Capt. Mooron July 5th 03 01:16 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
Instill a fear so deep that merely a "look" from you will render them weak
from an overload of adrenalin. I do it to my nephews all the time.

My favourite trick is the bucket with the lid... I pick up a 5 gallon
plastic bucket of tools, snap on a lid and carry it easily down to the
shore. I put it in the shed and stash it under a box......where I have a
similar bucket loaded with 80 lbs of dive weights. I'll wait a bit and ask
one of the lads to fetch the tool bucket for me.

Man.... you should see their faces.... Ha ha ha They think I'm a
machine! Idiots! Ha Ha Ha


CM

"Scout" wrote in message
...
| CM,
| I'm 47 too. It seems every year I get a fresh batch of 17-18 year old
| students who want very much to whoop me in arm wrestling. I work out
| faithfully; but still it's getting tougher and tougher to beat them with
| each passing year. God help me if one of the boys challenges me.
| Scout
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote
| Thank the gods I'm only 47.... I'd have a harder time doing it if I was
| 74!! ;-)
|
|



katysails July 5th 03 05:19 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
Per!

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit.
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



katysails July 5th 03 05:23 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
Happy Independence Day, stick a firecracker up your butt, light it, and sing
the Star Spangled Banner!

Scotty,
You're treading dangerous ground here. YPer and I would be more than happy to perform a solo duet of "The Star Spangled Banner"
but I'm afriad that the firecracker part will have to be cancelled. That is not an experience I would enjoy.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit.
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



katysails July 5th 03 05:29 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
I put it in the shed and stash it under a box......where I have a
similar bucket loaded with 80 lbs of dive weights. I'll wait a bit and ask
one of the lads to fetch the tool bucket for me.

Are you sure you're not one of my relatives?

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit.
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Flying Tadpole July 5th 03 06:38 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 


Scott Vernon wrote:

Ha ha, good one Per, too bad it took you 2 months to come up with something.

Happy Independence Day, stick a firecracker up your butt, light it, and sing
the Star Spangled Banner!


That would make it the Star Spangled Bunner?

Flying Tadpole July 5th 03 06:39 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 


Pony Express wrote:

Fix your calendar. Don't you know that the world revolves around Americans?
--


You mean, eccentrically and off balance?

Per Elmsäter July 5th 03 12:14 PM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
Pony Express wrote:
Sorry, I didn't read that post. I try to avoid threads where bob
talks about sailing.


Wise decision.

Methinks you're lurking a little more than you'd like to admit.


When did I ever mention how much I lurk? See, there you go again weaving
yourself into trouble by presuming things. Or did you talk to Bill Gates
this time?
Besides I have this troll watcher that gives an alarm when somebody says
something really stupid.

"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
Good one ;)
Yes there has always been something special about boobsy. So afraid
of sailing and yet wanting so much to show us how much he loves it
and how competent he is. Did you see the thread where he was
actually trying to make us believe he'd been sailing a spinnacker??
What a troll that was.

Pony Express wrote:
First Donal says he *likes* bob. And now you?

"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
How I love a bad loser ;)

Pony Express wrote:
Hey, don't try to bring logic and reasoning into this NG. It is
neither welcomed nor tolerated.

"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
Pony Express wrote:
Fix your calendar. Don't you know that the world revolves
around Americans?

Hey, Bill Gates is American isn't he? Well he's the one that
fixed my calendar!
--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.


--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.


--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.



Per Elmsäter July 5th 03 12:15 PM

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katysails wrote:
Happy Independence Day, stick a firecracker up your butt, light it,
and sing
the Star Spangled Banner!

Scotty,
You're treading dangerous ground here. YPer and I would be more than
happy to perform a solo duet of "The Star Spangled Banner" but I'm
afriad that the firecracker part will have to be cancelled. That is
not an experience I would enjoy.


Thanks for saving my a-s
--
Perre

You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.



Scout July 5th 03 12:22 PM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
not that there's anything wrong with that.
Scout

"Horvath" wrote
You Homo.




Capt. Mooron July 5th 03 12:34 PM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
Yes... that's expected in such a cavernous empty space.

CM

"Per Elmsäter" wrote in message
...
| katysails wrote:
| Per!
| Is there an echo in my head?
| --
| Perre
|
| You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.
|
|



Scott Vernon July 5th 03 12:51 PM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
OK, scrap the firecracker. Could you do it while standing on a Brits' neck?

Watched The Patriot last night, DAMN THE BRITS!

Scotty


"katysails" wrote in message
...
Happy Independence Day, stick a firecracker up your butt, light it, and

sing
the Star Spangled Banner!

Scotty,
You're treading dangerous ground here. YPer and I would be more than

happy to perform a solo duet of "The Star Spangled Banner"
but I'm afriad that the firecracker part will have to be cancelled. That

is not an experience I would enjoy.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit.
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein





Flying Tadpole July 5th 03 03:01 PM

New sea creatures near Australia
 


"Per Elmsäter" wrote:

Besides I have this troll watcher that gives an alarm when somebody says
something really stupid.


Trans.:
"When someone's going for a ride,
I'm woken by my female side..."

jlrogers July 5th 03 05:14 PM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
If you need a hug that bad, just ask them for it.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
Instill a fear so deep that merely a "look" from you will render them weak
from an overload of adrenalin. I do it to my nephews all the time.

My favourite trick is the bucket with the lid... I pick up a 5 gallon
plastic bucket of tools, snap on a lid and carry it easily down to the
shore. I put it in the shed and stash it under a box......where I have a
similar bucket loaded with 80 lbs of dive weights. I'll wait a bit and ask
one of the lads to fetch the tool bucket for me.

Man.... you should see their faces.... Ha ha ha They think I'm a
machine! Idiots! Ha Ha Ha


CM

"Scout" wrote in message
...
| CM,
| I'm 47 too. It seems every year I get a fresh batch of 17-18 year old
| students who want very much to whoop me in arm wrestling. I work out
| faithfully; but still it's getting tougher and tougher to beat them with
| each passing year. God help me if one of the boys challenges me.
| Scout
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote
| Thank the gods I'm only 47.... I'd have a harder time doing it if I was
| 74!! ;-)
|
|



Donal July 5th 03 10:42 PM

New sea creatures near Australia
 

"Pony Express" wrote in message
...
First Donal says he *likes* bob. And now you?


I was drunk. I like everybody when I'm drunk.

One of my failings, I guess.



Regards


Donal
--




Donal July 5th 03 10:46 PM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
Hey, Scout. Are you a member of GlorySail?


Regards

Donal
--

"Scout" wrote in message
...
not that there's anything wrong with that.
Scout

"Horvath" wrote
You Homo.






jlrogers July 6th 03 03:27 PM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
Naw, the last you sold me was lost over the side in a New York gale (almost 12 knots). Having to make do with ephedra and Mad Dog
20-20.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
???????????????????????........ you snortin' crack again Jl ??

CM

"jlrogers" wrote in message
y.com...
| If you need a hug that bad, just ask them for it.
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
| Instill a fear so deep that merely a "look" from you will render them
weak
| from an overload of adrenalin. I do it to my nephews all the time.
|
| My favourite trick is the bucket with the lid... I pick up a 5 gallon
| plastic bucket of tools, snap on a lid and carry it easily down to the
| shore. I put it in the shed and stash it under a box......where I have a
| similar bucket loaded with 80 lbs of dive weights. I'll wait a bit and
ask
| one of the lads to fetch the tool bucket for me.
|
| Man.... you should see their faces.... Ha ha ha They think I'm a
| machine! Idiots! Ha Ha Ha
|
|
| CM
|
| "Scout" wrote in message
| ...
| | CM,
| | I'm 47 too. It seems every year I get a fresh batch of 17-18 year old
| | students who want very much to whoop me in arm wrestling. I work out
| | faithfully; but still it's getting tougher and tougher to beat them
with
| | each passing year. God help me if one of the boys challenges me.
| | Scout
| |
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote
| | Thank the gods I'm only 47.... I'd have a harder time doing it if I
was
| | 74!! ;-)
| |
| |
|
|




katysails July 6th 03 09:22 PM

New sea creatures near Australia
 


-- Could you do it while standing on a Brits' neck?

No...I like Brits.
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit.
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Donal July 6th 03 11:57 PM

New sea creatures near Australia
 

"Scout" wrote in message
...
Never heard of it. Who or What is Glory Sail?
Scout


The Gay and Lesbian ORginasation for Yachting(????)


It's chairman spammed the ng a few months ago. Unfortunately, he didn't
stay. He put up a spirited fight.




Regards


Donal
--




Scout July 7th 03 12:45 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
Hahahaaa! No, not all English/Literature teachers are gay ole Donal.
Perhaps that is why I decided to teach science as well as English - to
offset the stigma? And don't forget, I worked 20+ plus years in mechanical
construction/engineering before starting my teaching career - AND NOT THAT
FUNNY VILLAGE PEOPLE CONSTRUCTION WORKER STUFF EITHER! ROFLMAO!
At any rate, my wife of 27 years will (hopefully) attest: some guy's big
hairy butt is the very least of my desires, despite Horvath's secret
desires! No no, if God made anything better than a woman, he kept it for
Himself!
Scout
(Not that there's anything wrong with it! - Jerry Seinfeld)


"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Scout" wrote in message
...
Never heard of it. Who or What is Glory Sail?
Scout


The Gay and Lesbian ORginasation for Yachting(????)


It's chairman spammed the ng a few months ago. Unfortunately, he didn't
stay. He put up a spirited fight.




Regards


Donal
--






Peter Wiley July 7th 03 04:25 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
"katysails" wrote in message ...
I have a plausible explanantion for said appearances: With the current so-called global warming, chunks of Antartica are
thawing where these animals, through a mystery of nature, have been cryo-preserved over the ages and are thawing out. They are
not new...they are old....(and if BS steals my plot for a B movie, I'll sue him...you have all witnessed that this is
exclusively MY idea)


Only one minor detail - chunks of Antarctica aren't thawing. Not to
mention the little matter of the circum-polar frontal zone.

Peter Wiley

katysails July 7th 03 04:41 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 

Only one minor detail - chunks of Antarctica aren't thawing. Not to
mention the little matter of the circum-polar frontal zone.

Only on your side...our side is thawing..it's all the emissions from Patgonia....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit.
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Peter Wiley July 8th 03 04:03 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 
"katysails" wrote in message ...
Only one minor detail - chunks of Antarctica aren't thawing. Not to
mention the little matter of the circum-polar frontal zone.

Only on your side...our side is thawing..it's all the emissions from Patgonia....


Well, I'll most likely go take another look in September. Shipping
season opens in 8 weeks and counting. About bloody time.

Peter Wiley

katysails July 9th 03 03:43 AM

New sea creatures near Australia
 

Reason you're running out of ice is the excessive generation of
methane in the USA. I'd suggest exterminating Bobby (that should halve
the hot air/methane output of the USA) but you'd have to freeze the
carcass as well, and you're running out of ice

We cpild use dry ice...and stick him on a space shuttle and let him go in orbit..problem is htat the orbit would decay after
awhile and then someone would be stuck with him falling down their chimney....What do your workboats do in Antarctica anyway?
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit.
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein




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