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Marc June 28th 03 12:55 PM

Express 27
 
Practical sailor just did a glowing review of the Carl Schumacher
designed Express 27. Any relation to the Express 30? The Article
mentions two other Schumacher designes, the Express 34 and 37.

Pony Express June 28th 03 01:12 PM

Express 27
 
no.
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Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Marc" wrote in message
...
Practical sailor just did a glowing review of the Carl Schumacher
designed Express 27. Any relation to the Express 30? The Article
mentions two other Schumacher designes, the Express 34 and 37.



Bobsprit June 28th 03 02:00 PM

Express 27
 
Any relation to the Express 30? The Article
mentions two other Schumacher designes, the Express 34 and 37.

The Express 27 is a true race boat with a history and heritage of note.
The Express 30 and 35 are barely known footnotes by comparison.

RB

Donal June 28th 03 11:19 PM

Express 27
 

"Marc" wrote in message
...
Practical sailor just did a glowing review of the Carl Schumacher
designed Express 27.


Don't believe the review.

I'd really like to read a review that said that a boat was crap.

I've never seen a review that said "This boat really sucks." It can't be
just advertising money, because even when they review old boats from
manufacturers that no longer exist, they still paint them in a positive
light.


Regards


Donal
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Bobsprit June 29th 03 06:40 PM

Express 27
 
The present (Jul. 1, 2003) issue of "Practical Sailor" features the
Express 27 in a review the theme of which is to the effect this is a
"legendary" boat "both of and ahead of its time" which "pro[ves] that
quality keeps its value":

Many people have heard of the Express 27. It WAS ahead of it's time.
The Express 30 was not because the J30 beat it and is still prefered. (I
actually prefer the Express for it's friendly cockpit). The other thing that
hurt the Express 30 was her looks, awkward to say the least, matched by the J30
and the C&C Mega. The J-30 name, performance, and beautifully finished cabin
made her a success, while the Mega and Express died deaths hardly pondered
these days.
The fact that J30's and Express 27's are still popular one design racers
highlights the failure of the Express 30.
Perhaps Steve or Loco can provide info as to why a serious raceboat like the
E30 used a masthead. A local school a few years back actually changed theirs to
a fractional, though little Stevey thought it was made-up cuz I never
photographed her.
Finally, consider that a mid 80's J-30 costs more by far than the dead Express
30. Sailors know the better boat, it would seem...just as my C&C 32 costs more!

RB

Donal June 29th 03 10:33 PM

Express 27
 

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
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Practical Sailor has no advertising at all. While I don't always agree

with them, they
don't pull their punches (much) on their product reviews. Their boat

reviews are
generally favorable , but I think they tend to pick boats with good

reputations. Plus,
its not very often that you hear someone claim their boat sucks.


True. Are the reviews written by owners?


BTW, I've never heard Bob say that his boat sucks, yet we've seen the
photos!

Regards


Donal
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Pony Express June 30th 03 01:58 AM

Express 27
 
Very nice attempt, too bad it was ineffective.
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Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
The present (Jul. 1, 2003) issue of "Practical Sailor" features the
Express 27 in a review the theme of which is to the effect this is a
"legendary" boat "both of and ahead of its time" which "pro[ves] that
quality keeps its value":

Many people have heard of the Express 27. It WAS ahead of it's time.
The Express 30 was not because the J30 beat it and is still prefered. (I
actually prefer the Express for it's friendly cockpit). The other thing

that
hurt the Express 30 was her looks, awkward to say the least, matched by

the J30
and the C&C Mega. The J-30 name, performance, and beautifully finished

cabin
made her a success, while the Mega and Express died deaths hardly pondered
these days.
The fact that J30's and Express 27's are still popular one design racers
highlights the failure of the Express 30.
Perhaps Steve or Loco can provide info as to why a serious raceboat like

the
E30 used a masthead. A local school a few years back actually changed

theirs to
a fractional, though little Stevey thought it was made-up cuz I never
photographed her.
Finally, consider that a mid 80's J-30 costs more by far than the dead

Express
30. Sailors know the better boat, it would seem...just as my C&C 32 costs

more!

RB



Bobsprit June 30th 03 02:17 AM

Express 27
 
Very nice attempt, too bad it was ineffective.

Well, thanks for reading anway!

RB

SAIL LOCO June 30th 03 03:11 AM

Express 27
 
A local school a few years back actually changed theirs to
a fractional,

Proves nothing even if true. I have a sailmaker friend who changed his Kirby
30 to a masthead rig for more speed. Why do some Hobie 33 & Laser 28 owners
switch to a masthead chute?


S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

SAIL LOCO June 30th 03 07:03 AM

Express 27
 
Well, I've lost Steve, but gained an idiot!

LOL...................... But you didn't have a reply to the question. Seems
like your the idiot. Or is it Putz?
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport


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