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Default Propeller walk

On Dec 11, 12:00*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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"Charles Momsen" wrote in message

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This graph:


http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/lin....html&edu=high


Shows the density of water as a function of depth. Water density changes
from 1.025 gm/cm^3 to 1.026 gm/cm^3 in 250 feet. That's a change of 0.1%
in 250 ft. Since that portion of the curve is linear, one can estimate
that water density *would change .0004% over the diameter (tip to tip) of
a 12 inch propeller. *So is a .0004% change in water density (in the
vertical plane no less) going to walk a boat sideways? *Don't think so.


Think, Momsen, think! *There are very large forces at work when a propeller
is turning at speed. You are stuck on static in your thinking. Picture it
this way. Let's say you were riding a bicycle at 1mph and you had a ten mile
per hour headwind. You would experience an 11mph head wind. Now, if you
aren't a girly-man you should be able to sprint up to 35mph. You would then
experience a 45mph headwind. Suddenly your inconsequential wind has great
consequence.

It's the same way with a propeller and the lift vs.drag coefficient. Even a
very small density difference results in a significant drag difference
between the top half of the prop and the bottom half of the prop. But there
is another thing that has a greater effect than density causing density to
be only part of the equation. Water density does not vary greatly due to the
fact that it doesn't compress easily. What does change significantly with
depth is water pressure (divers say 1 atmosphere for every 15 feet?) The
more pressure = the more drag for the propeller. I hope this helps.

Wilbur Hubbard


Let me use examples you may understand Neal.

Ever mix paint in a 5 gallon bucket with a paint mixing propellor on a
drill?
Why is the propellor in the paint pulled off center?

A dairy has huge tanks to store milk. They keep the creme mixed in
the milk with propellors on long shafts.
They hang straight down , he shaft is vertical. When you turn them on
the long shafts bend some in the direction of wheel walk.
Are you saying that it is pressure difference when the prop is
horizional causing the walk?

When a propellor flys off an airplane they never go straight, they
spin off in the direction of walk.

Think path of least resistance to the face of the fluke

Hope this helps.

Joe

 
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