On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:13:12 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/16/13 11:55 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 11:05:09 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/16/13 10:56 AM, wrote:

If you really want to preserve beaver habitat, spend some money, buy
that land and set it aside for preservation.
Why are you depending on sportsmen to do it and then demean the sport
that drives them to set aside that land?
Ducks Unlimited and the other hunting organizations have protected
more wet land than EPA, PETA and the humane society combined and they
did it without stealing property from it's owner.
Golf courses may represent the only real green space in a lot of
suburban areas. Most people do everything they can to discourage
wildlife in their own neighborhoods and then they put a PETA sticker
on their car and tell other people what they have to do on their
property.


I'm not *depending* upon self-described "sportsmen" to do anything other
than slaughter defenseless animals. You don't really think Ducks
Unlimited, et al, are interested in anything more than ways to provide
more critters to shoot. It isn't altruism. I appreciated the land
set-asides, but I know what is behind them.

I think if you have a golf course, you should be willing to share it
with whatever wildlife manages to hang on there by its fingernails.


If you are not actively preserving habitat, you are depending on the
people who do. That is the sportsman you seem to hate. If they
stopped, these animals would be gone.

The classic example of this is the big game hunting ranches in Texas.
They are the only ones who are preserving species that are rapidly
going extinct in the wild. It is a managed population. PETA says they
would rather have them extinct than have someone shoot one
occasionally.

I guess they never saw a lion take down a grazing animal. If so they
would never say hunting was cruel.


Is there something wrong with preserving habitat for the sake of
preserving habitat, without having the slaughter of animals as a motivator?

Managed population is a euphemistic way of saying canned hunt.

Lions take down grazing animals to eat and survive, not for sport. I was
fairly neutral on "hunting" until a decade or so ago, when I saw a TV
video of a "brave hunter" shooting and killing some distance away a
sheep with fancy horns. What a brave man.

You're right, ESAD, we keep forgetting what a perfect specimen of mankind you happen to be.

Got 'special circumstances'?


Salmonbait

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