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Canuck57 wrote:
Mubarak was no dictator
Bull****.
The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the
military.
The power behind every government is ultimately the
military.
You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds"
situation, the
civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s.
A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the
law, Eisenhower
sent in the 101st Airborne,.
Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard
to murder
unarmed students at Kent State.
Technically the national guard is not really the
military. They work
for the governor, not the federal government but the
general point is
valid.
All laws are ultimately enforced at the point of a
government gun and
the military has the biggest guns..
Please...there's no need to split the hair that fine.
You correctly assigned the blame to the governor but it
would be
incorrect to extend that to the pentagon or Nixon, as much
fun as that
might be. The national guard works for the state unless
they are
nationalized. A lot of people say that is the "militia"
Most of the kids at Kent State were protesting Nixon's
ordering of the
invasion of Cambodia, so please don't be so eager to let
Nixon or the
Pentagon off the hook. While Nixon didn't order in the
National Guard
goon squad, there wouldn't have been a protest sans Nixon's
escalation
of that idiotic war.

I will join you in blaming Nixon and Kissinger for still
being in that
war but they had nothing to do with whatever moron (probably
a captain
or major) who decided it was a good idea to issue a bunch of
weekend
warriors live ammo in a situation where they probably should
not have
even had rifles. This was a place for shields and batons
like we see
these days in riots.
I think part of the problem was people in charge did not
understand
the total breakdown in respect for authority that happened
in the 60s.
The National Guard, showing up in full battle gear, did not
impress
these kids. That misunderstanding and the presence of live
ammo
resulted in the most likely scenario. Students got shot
I know this is going to hurt, but the same can be said of the
young
people protesting in the Middle East. They're not impressed
with guns.


The breakdown in "respect for authority" back then was because
those in
authority no longer deserved respect. Whoever issued live
ammunition to
those National Guard thugs at Kent State should have been put
on trial.

I guess 8 years of Democrat presidents built up such distrust in
authority that the youth of America was despondent.


Go back to sleep, birther. This is a discussion for the adults.


What what skillful debate tools you bring to the table...

He's on par with De Plume. Oh wait. He is DePlume