On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:08:52 -0500, John H.
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:12:22 -0500, John H.
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:28:42 -0600, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:22:55 -0500, John H.
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:02 -0600, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:03:40 -0500, John H.
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0600, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:02:55 -0500, John H.
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:20:13 -0600, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:50:41 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:26:28 -0700, Canuck57
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:54:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

In the Democrats own words....

http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf

Justice has lost its meaning in our culture of government. And
compassion has lost its meaning as well.

What did you expect with big fat over weight over spending government?
Goverment of size never has cared about people, it is about giving the
people the minimum to be happy, while supporting the big government.
That isn't compasion or caring, just the way they operate.
Understanding this helps one understand government.

Case in point, with debt spending so high, and the economy in such sick
shape, why does the government not defer health care for 10 years? Or
why did they not do this 10 years ago? Why now?

Simple, tax greed. If government gets the revenue, they can slide the
service levels down, inclrease your taxes as the rouse and government
has a big time new source of money from the people. In effect, skiming
health care cash flow for fat government. Government know it can't into
perpetuity create ponzi money and they want revenue!

The real reason why health care comes up now is revenue. Government
wants more of your wealth.

And what were you saying when Bush was starting dubious wars?

Yes, those are good investments?

Actually, that would make a good bumper sticker. It would go
something like this:

"I realize that this is an informal fallacy called a red herring
argument, and I understand that it is an illegitimate argument because
it is not germane to the argument at hand; however, being that it is a
convenient argument capable of effectively diverting from the argument
at hand, and I'm too lazy to (or it's too much of an inconvenience, or
I'm not a deep thinker), I must ask with all due diligence and with
little respect to sound argumentation, 'And what were you saying when
Bush was starting dubious wars? Yes, those are good investments?'
Honk if you love red herring!"

I do.

John Herring

Now please stop taking my name in vain.

I'm sorry, John. I'll flail myself thoroughly before I retire to my
bed of nails this evening, when I quit for the day. It won't happen
again...

You say that, but when someone throws another red herring out there
you'll pounce on it like a starved cat.

That's OK. I'll just go honk.

I think you've done figured me out. :)

Turn your volume up, sit back, and listen to this. It's got to be the
most spectacular finish ever to a symphony.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4U0y8zZm28

As my daughter would say, "Cool beans!" That piece has quite the
fanfare, for sure. Being the "smarmy" dilettante of tortured prose
that I am, though, I think this allegro by Charles Ives is more in
keeping with this thread and my accentuated foibles. I'm certain that
JPS and Harry would find rewarding parallels between this piece and my
bloated bloviations, if I may exercise some patented turgidity in
saying so. By the way, the notable, memorable Charles Ives was an
insurance salesman...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs

Not quite as boomy as I like.

It's an acquired taste, I think. I've explored his music out of
curiosity more than having an affinity for it.

Thank goodness. I was feeling very 'un-connoisseurish'. Now I realize
I'll just have to listen to it for a few more decades to acquire an
appreciation.

Call me back in 2038.

Listening to Ives is like chewing on aspirin to enjoy the taste. I
posted it more for Harry's and JPS' listening pleasure, though.

I wouldn't want to offend your sensibilities. :)

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