"DSK" wrote
And I thought Vito was the foremost practitioner of willful
ignorance on this subject!

I know Doug's the expert - he read all about 'nam and Jesus in a science fiction
work about a turtle.

Would you also say that the National Guard fired on students
at Kent State in self defense?


But I have been to Kent State. If you look at a map only a 100 yards or so
seperated the kids from the Guard - what that ignores is that the 100 yards
comprises a near vertical bluff.

OTOH, the killings did achieve Nixon's objective - the anti-war demos more or
less evaporated.