On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 02:34:34 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Len" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:01:59 -0400, " *JimH*" wrote:
But tell me, what was wrong with the series of facts I summed up?

The fact that they are not facts.

Oh well in that case: good luck with your education.
Regards, Len.

Strong return argument Len.

There is nothing to return arguments on Jim

According to you. Maybe you should increase your education. We have our
problems. Maybe we are the only superpower by default.

What does that make you and what rights do you give yourselves being
that "super"power.
In my view the us is like the tallest and strongest guy in the 4th
grade. When he was an intelligent guy, all went well. When it was a
boaster, the other children in the classroom had a problem.

Reagan spent for Star Wars, and Gorbachev was smart enough to know
he was bankrupt as a
country and had to accede to secondary status. Sort of like Europe at the
present time. Basically bankrupt. You can not afford the cradle to grave
socialism. In 20 years there will only be something like 2 working for
everyone on pension.
The French government recognizes this predicament, but
trying to increase the amount of years that the workers have to work before
retirement, is causing massive public workers strikes. How often does the
transport unions call a strike?
All west european countries are reforming social security.
But I'm glad there is social security for the elderly and lesser
priviledged. I think however flawed a particular system is, it's a
measure of civilisation.

Look at the anti-immigrant bias. The
killing of a publisher in your country by a Muslim. What are the after
affects? You are a morally bankrupt region in look what you let go on in
Serbia / Albania.
I choose living in Europe in stead of living in an
christian-fundamentalist dictated country where these christian values
without exception are carried out to the individual well being.
I believe you also have your problems with a radical islamitic belief
that practices what the prophet prescribes regarding infidels?
Well we have these people as neighbours. Do you have a "simple,
straightforward us remedy" for that?

My mom is 90 years old. Twice in her lifetime, your
region has let despots involve the world in massive wars. And you call
yourself superior?

You say I must upgrade my education but you need new glasses.
This really is a serious case of projection. I never called us
superior. It's exactly what I accuse the us of. You'd better think
about this. Allow me to quote myself:

"And....
"You don't have to point out the mistakes Europe makes.
"We don't know how to fight like the us does, we have a clown for
"president in Italy, a bookkeeper in Holland, a ventrilloquists doll
"in Britain... We have difficulty becoming a union. We know that -in
"order to maintain a certain level of civilisation- we have a system
"in which we help the lesser priviliged and off course there will be
"some abuse of that system
"but we see that's simply a part of the costs of civilisation.
"We accept being just one of the parties in the world and we're not a
"purely selfish, manipulating superpower.

But I guess also this discussion is chancing in mud throwing.
I note that you regard europe as socialist, selling chemical warfare
components, morally bankrupt.
I'm not that good in mud throwing.
You win and I salute you.

Regards, Len.