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I've always heard that there is a second (semi secret) manufactures Hull
ID on all US boats.

I'm trying to track down the "responsible owner" of a boat that was
abandon at a public launch ramp that I've been keeping and eye on this
summer (appears I wasn't watching close enough).

This jerk went to far as to scrap off the state numbers and grind the
Hull ID from the fiberglass on the stern. I can't find any MFG id plate
either.

This is an older fiberglass, 16ft, I/O bow rider which originally had a
Ford 302 cc (missing) The out drive is in tact and is marked with large
logo "280". The out drive appears to be in good condition and has a
good prop.

The local Sheriff won't help out unless we can find the state
registration and we can't find that without the Hull ID.

Otherwise, it's going to cost the tax payers about $700 it hauled away
for disposal. Can't just sink it, any more. Where are the boat thieves
when you need one??

Anyone in the Puget Sound or Hood Canal sure could get a good deal here..

Steve
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from: http://members.aol.com/spinners/hin.html


"You must also put an identical HIN somewhere else on the boat in a less
than obvious location. Don't hide it where no one will ever be able to
find it. Put it under a seat, behind a removable panel, under an easily
removed fitting. It's there so that the number can be compared to the
one on the transom if the boat is suspected of being stolen, or if
someone suspects that the HIN has been illegally altered. (No one would
do that, would they? Don't count on it!) . This secondary HIN has to
meet the same requirements as the first, 1/4 inch high or greater, and
permanent affixed. "

This is a good summary of the other things I've read on the subject.

My guess:
Most likely inside somewhere. It would have to be some place that didn't
make life too hard if an official wanted to compare the two-which means
it isn't under a chainplate or some piece of hardware the boat actually
needs to operate.

If you can get pictures posted somwehere, folks here might be able to ID
the maker-if still in business they'll know, or if there is an owners
group, they can tell you.

Otherwise, strip everything loose from the inside, then crawl through it
with a flashlight held at a raking angle to the surface-bets done at night.

Good luck

Dale

Steve wrote:

I've always heard that there is a second (semi secret) manufactures Hull
ID on all US boats.

I'm trying to track down the "responsible owner" of a boat that was
abandon at a public launch ramp that I've been keeping and eye on this
summer (appears I wasn't watching close enough).

This jerk went to far as to scrap off the state numbers and grind the
Hull ID from the fiberglass on the stern. I can't find any MFG id plate
either.


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from: http://members.aol.com/spinners/hin.html


"You must also put an identical HIN somewhere else on the boat in a less
than obvious location. Don't hide it where no one will ever be able to
find it. Put it under a seat, behind a removable panel, under an easily
removed fitting. It's there so that the number can be compared to the
one on the transom if the boat is suspected of being stolen, or if
someone suspects that the HIN has been illegally altered. (No one would
do that, would they? Don't count on it!) . This secondary HIN has to
meet the same requirements as the first, 1/4 inch high or greater, and
permanent affixed. "

This is a good summary of the other things I've read on the subject.

My guess:
Most likely inside somewhere. It would have to be some place that didn't
make life too hard if an official wanted to compare the two-which means
it isn't under a chainplate or some piece of hardware the boat actually
needs to operate.

If you can get pictures posted somwehere, folks here might be able to ID
the maker-if still in business they'll know, or if there is an owners
group, they can tell you.

Otherwise, strip everything loose from the inside, then crawl through it
with a flashlight held at a raking angle to the surface-bets done at night.

Good luck

Dale

Steve wrote:

I've always heard that there is a second (semi secret) manufactures Hull
ID on all US boats.

I'm trying to track down the "responsible owner" of a boat that was
abandon at a public launch ramp that I've been keeping and eye on this
summer (appears I wasn't watching close enough).

This jerk went to far as to scrap off the state numbers and grind the
Hull ID from the fiberglass on the stern. I can't find any MFG id plate
either.


s/v Good Intentions
The list of confidential hull ID numbers is now available through the National Insurance Crime Bureau (NICB).

The NICB database is accessible through ISO ClaimSearch and access is offered to law enforcement free-of-charge.

Law enforcement may request access by contacting NICB's Technical Support Group at 847-544-7003 or emailing .

This is a two step procedure which involves obtaining access to ISO ClaimSearch and then obtaining access to NICB's SVIN database.

To obtain access, it requires the following:
1.An ISO ClaimSearch Law Enforcement Authorization Request form must be completed and returned to NICB.

2.The Law Enforcement agency must include a formal request on letterhead requesting access to the secondary HIN information.

Once this information is provided, NICB will provide a Confidentiality Agreement which is required prior to any agency or users being authorized access to the secondary information.
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