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On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:28:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: Not getting testy on my part and didn't mean to insult anyone. I respect Greg's hobby and interest in keeping old computers running and using them for all the things he likes to do. It just isn't for everyone. I guess my problem is I got into the PC business working out of the parts room. IBM upper management made the decision that hardware guys had no use for PCs and there was no budget for them. When I said something about it to my direct manager she said "you know how to get parts don't you"? I could order everything but cases (they have a serial number like the receiver of a gun) and that is why my early machines were all built in wooden boxes. We were managing $12M in parts with a pencil so I had a good business use. Once I got into it I figured out how many parts were being replaced in a "FRU bucket" that were not bad (blindly throwing several parts at a problem and not isolating further) so I started trolling the returns for parts. There was an IBM internal "swap" BB where I could trade used good parts for all sorts of things. I had the same issue with software. We had no budget for software but we had software writers who put their stuff, that IBM said no on, up on the internal network. There were also lots of cool tools that never actually saw the light of day in the retail world. I just found pleasure taking things that nobody else wanted and creating new things we needed. |
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justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 3/30/17 5:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/29/2017 9:04 PM, wrote: On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 19:34:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: You can get back in forth to work in a Tesla too but you don't really need all of that power. I guess if you want the biggest and baddest machine on the block, go for it. You can afford it. ;-) Lesson I learned a long time ago from a old timer mechanical engineer (P.E.) "When in doubt, make it stout". Unfortunately, in the computer biz, stout is not the same as fast. I had to give up my PC based MP3 players because once you got much beyond a P1 166, reliability in the Florida car environment because you couldn't keep them cool. The same was true of hard drives. Once you got much over 10-15gig, they started getting more heat sensitive. My interest in laptops used to be as cheap (to run) servers since they used to run at "night light" levels of power. This last one I got came with a 90w power brick. You need to put a towel in your lap if you actually use it as a laptop or you will roast your nuts. The Dell Latitude (P3/400 W/98 machine) I am running back in the shop is always cool to the touch. The specs say it pulls a max of 36w but it seems to cruise in the 10-15w just talking to the printer, scanner or banging an external hard drive. Greg, not many people use or are as interested in computers as you are. I really am not interested in seeing how long I could use Windows 98. Greg apparently has lots of hours to fill during the day keeping his old computers running, carpeting his home town with tiki bars, and building RV trailers out of old bed frames. As soon as he picks up enough old microwave ovens from dumpsters, he'll be able to communicate directly with the Trump administration. It's his hobby. Do you have a hobby? Harry's hobby is being one of the supreme arsholes on the Internet. |
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justan wrote:
Bill Wrote in message: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm finally giving serious thought to getting a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs? I have had pretty good luck with Lenovo (formerly IBM) and my 2 1996 vintage 365s still run but they are not fast enough to do much. We use tablets. Both wife and I have iPad mini. Works well for traveling. Gets and sends email. Which is 80% of the travel use. Other 20% is looking up local places or maps. Tablets are great for that. We download books from our local library as well as Amazon so when on airplanes can read or play games. For wifi we either use hotels, phone hotspot, or Starbucks or McDonald's. I also have Xfinity for home, and they have public wifi wherever Comcast is a provider. The tablet is a lot more convenient than a laptop for travel, where you do not need it for business use. My wife's got a tablet she uses in the truck for finding campgrounds, cheap fuel, etc, plus all the stuff she does. I want something on which I can store files, pay bills, etc. I can bank online with the the iPad. Depending on memory size, can store stuff, and use for pictures. It runs safari or Crome. Does the Apple stuff allow use of sd cards for storage? Freind of mine was complaining that she was getting memory full errors. I didn't see a way to add storage to her phone. Nope, but the android tablets allow adding memory. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/30/17 8:45 AM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 3/30/17 7:35 AM, justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm finally giving serious thought to getting a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs? I have had pretty good luck with Lenovo (formerly IBM) and my 2 1996 vintage 365s still run but they are not fast enough to do much. We use tablets. Both wife and I have iPad mini. Works well for traveling. Gets and sends email. Which is 80% of the travel use. Other 20% is looking up local places or maps. Tablets are great for that. We download books from our local library as well as Amazon so when on airplanes can read or play games. For wifi we either use hotels, phone hotspot, or Starbucks or McDonald's. I also have Xfinity for home, and they have public wifi wherever Comcast is a provider. The tablet is a lot more convenient than a laptop for travel, where you do not need it for business use. My wife's got a tablet she uses in the truck for finding campgrounds, cheap fuel, etc, plus all the stuff she does. I want something on which I can store files, pay bills, etc. I can bank online with the the iPad. Depending on memory size, can store stuff, and use for pictures. It runs safari or Crome. Does the Apple stuff allow use of sd cards for storage? Freind of mine was complaining that she was getting memory full errors. I didn't see a way to add storage to her phone. There are external storage devices that work with iPhone and iPads. She wants to carry her tunes, photos and every email and SMS she has ever recieved, on her phone. How do these devices connect to an iphone and can they be used for backup of files? The ones I have seen plug into the lightning port on the bottom of the device and have a USB port on the other end. I've not used one, but I'm pretty sure they'll do what you want. Here's one such device: http://tinyurl.com/mlh7r2f They have to be powered devices. Apple can not power the USB device from the port. At least since gen 3. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/30/17 11:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/30/2017 8:01 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 3/30/17 7:35 AM, justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm finally giving serious thought to getting a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs? I have had pretty good luck with Lenovo (formerly IBM) and my 2 1996 vintage 365s still run but they are not fast enough to do much. We use tablets. Both wife and I have iPad mini. Works well for traveling. Gets and sends email. Which is 80% of the travel use. Other 20% is looking up local places or maps. Tablets are great for that. We download books from our local library as well as Amazon so when on airplanes can read or play games. For wifi we either use hotels, phone hotspot, or Starbucks or McDonald's. I also have Xfinity for home, and they have public wifi wherever Comcast is a provider. The tablet is a lot more convenient than a laptop for travel, where you do not need it for business use. My wife's got a tablet she uses in the truck for finding campgrounds, cheap fuel, etc, plus all the stuff she does. I want something on which I can store files, pay bills, etc. I can bank online with the the iPad. Depending on memory size, can store stuff, and use for pictures. It runs safari or Crome. Does the Apple stuff allow use of sd cards for storage? Freind of mine was complaining that she was getting memory full errors. I didn't see a way to add storage to her phone. There are external storage devices that work with iPhone and iPads. His question was, "Does the Apple stuff allow use of *sd* cards for storage?" One of the reasons I don't like Apple products is that you often have to do it Apple's way, using Apple manufactured accessories. That's one of the reasons why Apple devices are more reliable. My laptop is about four years old, with a 512-gig solid state hard drive, 8 gigs of RAM and it also holds in a slot a large SD card on which I have stored about 50 full-length movies to watch when I travel, and my 4,000 song music library. It's never hiccuped once. The various free OS upgrades are evolutionary and require little time to update and use. Most of those Apple accessories are the same as everyone else's except for a software ID. When I worked at Maxtor we made disk drives for Apple. Same drive as we made for everybody, but the SCSI ID was different. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/30/17 8:45 AM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 3/30/17 7:35 AM, justan wrote: Bill Wrote in message: Poco Deplorevole wrote: On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: wrote: On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 05:17:47 -0400, Poco Deplorevole wrote: This summer will see us doing a bit of travelling, and I'm finally giving serious thought to getting a laptop. Any one having good or bad luck with theirs? I have had pretty good luck with Lenovo (formerly IBM) and my 2 1996 vintage 365s still run but they are not fast enough to do much. We use tablets. Both wife and I have iPad mini. Works well for traveling. Gets and sends email. Which is 80% of the travel use. Other 20% is looking up local places or maps. Tablets are great for that. We download books from our local library as well as Amazon so when on airplanes can read or play games. For wifi we either use hotels, phone hotspot, or Starbucks or McDonald's. I also have Xfinity for home, and they have public wifi wherever Comcast is a provider. The tablet is a lot more convenient than a laptop for travel, where you do not need it for business use. My wife's got a tablet she uses in the truck for finding campgrounds, cheap fuel, etc, plus all the stuff she does. I want something on which I can store files, pay bills, etc. I can bank online with the the iPad. Depending on memory size, can store stuff, and use for pictures. It runs safari or Crome. Does the Apple stuff allow use of sd cards for storage? Freind of mine was complaining that she was getting memory full errors. I didn't see a way to add storage to her phone. There are external storage devices that work with iPhone and iPads. She wants to carry her tunes, photos and every email and SMS she has ever recieved, on her phone. How do these devices connect to an iphone and can they be used for backup of files? The ones I have seen plug into the lightning port on the bottom of the device and have a USB port on the other end. I've not used one, but I'm pretty sure they'll do what you want. Here's one such device: http://tinyurl.com/mlh7r2f Dropping 64GB Micro SD cards INTO my phone and tablet were a hell of a lot more convenient than that. |
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Bill wrote:
justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: On 3/30/17 5:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/29/2017 9:04 PM, wrote: On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 19:34:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: You can get back in forth to work in a Tesla too but you don't really need all of that power. I guess if you want the biggest and baddest machine on the block, go for it. You can afford it. ;-) Lesson I learned a long time ago from a old timer mechanical engineer (P.E.) "When in doubt, make it stout". Unfortunately, in the computer biz, stout is not the same as fast. I had to give up my PC based MP3 players because once you got much beyond a P1 166, reliability in the Florida car environment because you couldn't keep them cool. The same was true of hard drives. Once you got much over 10-15gig, they started getting more heat sensitive. My interest in laptops used to be as cheap (to run) servers since they used to run at "night light" levels of power. This last one I got came with a 90w power brick. You need to put a towel in your lap if you actually use it as a laptop or you will roast your nuts. The Dell Latitude (P3/400 W/98 machine) I am running back in the shop is always cool to the touch. The specs say it pulls a max of 36w but it seems to cruise in the 10-15w just talking to the printer, scanner or banging an external hard drive. Greg, not many people use or are as interested in computers as you are. I really am not interested in seeing how long I could use Windows 98. Greg apparently has lots of hours to fill during the day keeping his old computers running, carpeting his home town with tiki bars, and building RV trailers out of old bed frames. As soon as he picks up enough old microwave ovens from dumpsters, he'll be able to communicate directly with the Trump administration. It's his hobby. Do you have a hobby? Harry's hobby is being one of the supreme arsholes on the Internet. He's very good at that. |
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