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need advice/help with trim
I've recently replaced the side windows in our 66 34' Hatteras. I now have
a lip, approx 1/4 - 3/8" around the inside edge (inside the salon) that I need to trim out. If it were all straight, some simple "L" shaped wood molding would be fine but I have a couple of radiuses to deal with - the photos below should help you envision what I mean- the problem areas a 1. the forward/top portion of the forward side windows (inside salon pic is probably best to see this) 2. the rearward/top portion of the rearward side window (external pics probably best to see this) You can see pretty well in the pic that the old windows had "L" molding around that inside edge - but what you can't see is that around the radiuses it is crap - little relief cuts all over to make the bend - split wood, etc. Just tacky in general. I'm not sure how to deal with this. Any ideas ? Any source for a molding that might be flexible enough for this job ? btw - if you've noticed the radius on the forward/bottom portion on the forward windows - it's no longer there - I squared that corner off with the new windows so no longer an issue. I came pretty close to doing that with the other forward radius too but it really would have affected the lines of the boat. http://www.jbaileygroup.com/boating/hat.html thanks guys. jim bailey |
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:24:18 GMT, "Jim Bailey"
wrote: I've recently replaced the side windows in our 66 34' Hatteras. I now have a lip, approx 1/4 - 3/8" around the inside edge (inside the salon) that I need to trim out. If it were all straight, some simple "L" shaped wood molding would be fine but I have a couple of radiuses to deal with - the photos below should help you envision what I mean- the problem areas a I'm not sure how to deal with this. Any ideas ? Any source for a molding that might be flexible enough for this job ? You have to cut the corner pieces to fit. First get a chunk of wood long enough for corner. Should be flat grain. Cut the outer edge to fit. At this stage you can do several attempts to try and fit. You might try to get a tracing of corner by tape a piece of paper to corner region and rubbing with a pencil. In your case you would add the "leg" of the L. Cut that rabbet with router or shaper. When the fit is perfect on the outer edge, cut the inner edge. Obviously the piece is now very fragile; thus the requirement for flat grain. Radius the corner as required. These instructions are minimal, I know, but they should be sufficient to suggest the method. Nice boat, by the way. Regards, pcf |
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Thanks PC. I'd actually thought about that - cutting from a solid piece.
Unfortunately I really don't have the necessary tools around to do it right now e.g. a router (probably a lot easier on a router table actually)., but I'll certainly give that some more thought. Also, I had somone else respond (see the new thread 'Jim's Hatteras'), requesting better pics and I[m goiing to try to do that tomorrow or Sunday. Maybe you can see it a little better then, and see the new windows - maybe generate other ideas ? jim bailey "P.C. Ford" wrote in message ... On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:24:18 GMT, "Jim Bailey" wrote: I've recently replaced the side windows in our 66 34' Hatteras. I now have a lip, approx 1/4 - 3/8" around the inside edge (inside the salon) that I need to trim out. If it were all straight, some simple "L" shaped wood molding would be fine but I have a couple of radiuses to deal with - the photos below should help you envision what I mean- the problem areas a I'm not sure how to deal with this. Any ideas ? Any source for a molding that might be flexible enough for this job ? You have to cut the corner pieces to fit. First get a chunk of wood long enough for corner. Should be flat grain. Cut the outer edge to fit. At this stage you can do several attempts to try and fit. You might try to get a tracing of corner by tape a piece of paper to corner region and rubbing with a pencil. In your case you would add the "leg" of the L. Cut that rabbet with router or shaper. When the fit is perfect on the outer edge, cut the inner edge. Obviously the piece is now very fragile; thus the requirement for flat grain. Radius the corner as required. These instructions are minimal, I know, but they should be sufficient to suggest the method. Nice boat, by the way. Regards, pcf |
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What tools/facilities do you have?
Jim Bailey wrote: Thanks PC. I'd actually thought about that - cutting from a solid piece. Unfortunately I really don't have the necessary tools around to do it right .... |
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Basic power (portable) saws, drills etc. I do still have a delta scroll saw
that I could use to cut the shape - just no way to put the rabbet in it. Used to have it all - table saw, band saw, planer, radial arm etc. Had two router tables set up. My wife told me I shouldn't have sold it all - as usual, she was right. jim bailey "Rufus" wrote in message news:guSxb.249283$275.919359@attbi_s53... What tools/facilities do you have? Jim Bailey wrote: Thanks PC. I'd actually thought about that - cutting from a solid piece. Unfortunately I really don't have the necessary tools around to do it right ... |
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need advice/help with trim
A cheap router and appropriate bits would do the trick, I'd guess. Maybe
you have a friend who'd loan you one, or stop by your local pawn shop and see what's available on the cheap. richg |
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need advice/help with trim
If your design needs one simple rabbet all around, and you have the
patience, make _two_ trim pieces, the 2nd 1/2 (or whatever) the width of the first and laminate them together. Result = 1 trim piece with rabbet. Sand outer edge smooth as needed. If you make the sides separately with straight stock, you could probably lap joint the corners this way, also. Single piece of GRP over the lot and it'll stay together forever; might be tricky getting the cloth to lay tight on the curves, though. Rufus Jim Bailey wrote: Basic power (portable) saws, drills etc. I do still have a delta scroll saw |
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need advice/help with trim
Take a look at CR Laurence's site. They have just about everything for
glazing, and probably have trim as well. http://www.crlaurence.com "Jim Bailey" wrote in message . .. Thanks PC. I'd actually thought about that - cutting from a solid piece. Unfortunately I really don't have the necessary tools around to do it right now e.g. a router (probably a lot easier on a router table actually)., but I'll certainly give that some more thought. Also, I had somone else respond (see the new thread 'Jim's Hatteras'), requesting better pics and I[m goiing to try to do that tomorrow or Sunday. Maybe you can see it a little better then, and see the new windows - maybe generate other ideas ? jim bailey "P.C. Ford" wrote in message ... On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:24:18 GMT, "Jim Bailey" wrote: I've recently replaced the side windows in our 66 34' Hatteras. I now have a lip, approx 1/4 - 3/8" around the inside edge (inside the salon) that I need to trim out. If it were all straight, some simple "L" shaped wood molding would be fine but I have a couple of radiuses to deal with - the photos below should help you envision what I mean- the problem areas a I'm not sure how to deal with this. Any ideas ? Any source for a molding that might be flexible enough for this job ? You have to cut the corner pieces to fit. First get a chunk of wood long enough for corner. Should be flat grain. Cut the outer edge to fit. At this stage you can do several attempts to try and fit. You might try to get a tracing of corner by tape a piece of paper to corner region and rubbing with a pencil. In your case you would add the "leg" of the L. Cut that rabbet with router or shaper. When the fit is perfect on the outer edge, cut the inner edge. Obviously the piece is now very fragile; thus the requirement for flat grain. Radius the corner as required. These instructions are minimal, I know, but they should be sufficient to suggest the method. Nice boat, by the way. Regards, pcf |
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